Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't think I've ever used the word. Well, you've clearly indicated that the word "flop" means disappointment to you based on your stances earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 noun: flop; plural noun: flops 1. a heavy, loose, and ungainly movement, or a sound made by it. "they hit the ground with a flop" 2. informal a total failure. "the play had been a flop" synonyms: failure, disaster, debacle, catastrophe, loser, loss-maker; More Misuse of the word, no matter how wide spread doesn't change the current definition. MJ1 isn't a flop because it isn't a disaster, loss maker, failure, debacle etc. The number is lower than expectations so it can be seen as a disappointing it didn't live up to it's potential but financially it's still a huge success. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Opening above $100m: Furious 7 Avengers: Age of Ultron Jurassic World Mockingjay Part 2 Star Wars That's 5 guaranteed, plus any others that get lucky (e.g. Bond 24). I don't think Jurassic World and not even Furious 7 is quite guaranteed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm sick and tired of how everyone just ignored Puerto Rico; it's as much a part of this country as any other state. I actually heard it's looking into becoming a state, like why not count it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I actually heard it's looking into becoming a state, like why not count it? Is It? I've always heard that they didn't want to be a state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Is It? I've always heard that they didn't want to be a state That's not what paramount told me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I actually heard it's looking into becoming a state, like why not count it? It is counted in domestic #. Fox even counts it twice when reporting WW numbers - once as part of the US and once as part of International. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We're getting how many next year? 2? 3? 4? Yeah. If we wouldn't count Avengers and Star Wars then 2015 doesn't look any better than '14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) The way I'm reading the situation is: The people calling it "Floppingjay" are doing so as a joke. But "flop" is attached to movies that disappoint, hence Floppit. Obviously these films aren't money losers. It's not about how I'm using the word or how I feel. I think the people who are arguing "it's not a flop guys" are wasting their time because "flop" doesn't mean what they think it does in the way it's being used. Edited November 23, 2014 by lab276 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't think Jurassic World and not even Furious 7 is quite guaranteed Okay, how about 3 100% guaranteed and 2 95%? FF6 was so close to $100m that I honestly can't see how F7 will do less. As for Jurassic World - Godzilla opened to $93.2m so there's no way JW will get under $100m, given how much more popular it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 noun: flop; plural noun: flops 1. a heavy, loose, and ungainly movement, or a sound made by it. "they hit the ground with a flop" 2. informal a total failure. "the play had been a flop" synonyms: failure, disaster, debacle, catastrophe, loser, loss-maker; More Misuse of the word, no matter how wide spread doesn't change the current definition. MJ1 isn't a flop because it isn't a disaster, loss maker, failure, debacle etc. The number is lower than expectations so it can be seen as a disappointing it didn't live up to it's potential but financially it's still a huge success. I mean if it's not #1 it's pretty much last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 There is no way Fast 7 opens below 100 million if the last film did 117 million in 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Is It? I've always heard that they didn't want to be a state In 2012 they voted in a non-binding referendum to support becoming a state. Because it was non-binding, and because the referendum had a weird two-layer structure, nothing has come of it Puerto Rican voters were asked two questions: (1) whether they agreed to continue with Puerto Rico's territorial status and (2) to indicate the political status they preferred from three possibilities: statehood, independence, or a sovereign nation in free association with the United States. 970,910 (54.00%) voted "No" on the first question, expressing themselves against maintaining the current political status, and 828,077 (46.00%) voted "Yes", to maintain the current political status. Of those who answered on the second question 834,191 (61.11%) chose statehood, 454,768 (33.34%) chose free association, and 74,895 (5.55%) chose independence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Okay, how about 3 100% guaranteed and 2 95%? FF6 was so close to $100m that I honestly can't see how F7 will do less. As for Jurassic World - Godzilla opened to $93.2m so there's no way JW will get under $100m, given how much more popular it is. Fair point about Godzilla but I'm still skeptical about that one. I agree about Fast 7 though, it's pretty much there but there are things that can happen that might knock it downa slight peg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Consolations.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 There is no way Fast 7 opens below 100 million if the last film did 117 million in 4 days. And yet, even just a few days ago there was "no way" MJ1 opened to 135m or lower. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Opening above $100m: Furious 7 Avengers: Age of Ultron Jurassic World Mockingjay Part 2 Star Wars That's 5 guaranteed, plus any others that get lucky (e.g. Bond 24). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Baumer, 125 is big but it is a disappointing number for a franchise which is coming off a critical and box office reception high in both cases it dropped considerably. In reviews it dropped 20 % and in box office it dropped 30 million on ow just a year after the highly acclaimed and well recieved cf. There is no two ways about it that if you look at it as a standalone it's good with ok reviews but as a franchisee it's a disappointing that it's even lower than the first movie which was a unknown to many movie goers and had less theaters than this This Does justify a concern and a question that needs to be asked: what went wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Fair point about Godzilla but I'm still skeptical about that one. I agree about Fast 7 though, it's pretty much there but there are things that can happen that might knock it downa slight peg I do realise that I was bending the term 'guaranteed', as two of the films aren't quite there. The other 3 will open so far above $100m that any issues they run into will keep them above $100m, which isn't the case with JW and F7. I just put them there because they are more likely to do it than to not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) There is no way Fast 7 opens below 100 million if the last film did 117 million in 4 days. It opened during Memorial Day Weekend with a very soft sunday drop. This time, it won't have that incentive. It is still likely to open above $100m but there is absolutely no guarantee as it opens in April versus Memorial Day weekend. Edited November 23, 2014 by Ent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
