Wednesday Numbers (MI 8.5 SH2 6.5 Alvin 6.5 TinTin 4.2 DT 4.1)

[Captain Craig]

^^^ Which is something people have been doing since about Spiderman 2. Thinking each sequel has to now over perform the prior installment. When the norm pre-2000 was sequels go down, the thinking flipped but that couldn't be maintained. We just hit a lucky patch of sequels that quality rise did better at the B.O. Just wait, some peoples expectations are so high for The Avengers or TDKR that the term underperformer will ultimately be tossed around.

[fishstick]

OK, guys, performers, underperformers and overperformers are not based on budget only. I get that when overhyped movie doesn`t meet xpectations, fans like to throw the "but the budget wasn`t big" card to show their favorite is a success although industry doesn`t perceive it as such. Every movie is individual case so individual situation has to be taken into consideration. It goes beyond budget and hype. There`s also accessibility. Just because Johnny Depp is in it, it doesn`t mean that Sweeney Todd is expected to post POTC numbers. Another one is awards potential. Some movies are made for awards and studios know they may lose money (which they`ll cover with some tentpole, no problem). Another big one is merchnadise, the sole reason why narnia keeps churning out movies. Etc.

[rb02]

Compared to expectations of course. Is it a flop? Hell no. But it underperformed compared to most peoples expectations. Though you could argue those expectations were too high

I wouldn't even say that it has underperformed yet. Especially during the holiday season, it's not over til it's over. Also, the OS numbers are going to tell the true story here, and we don't yet know that will play out. Edited December 29, 2011 by rb02

[kayumanggi]

So SH: AGOS will be leggier than the first one?

[A Marvel Fanboy]

170M is locked for SH2.

[Ezen Baklattan]

Pariah made a little over a $5k PTA in 4 theaters. Blue Valentine had close to $12k in the same amount of theaters, so it didn't make too big of a splash, relatively.

[fmpro]

So SH: AGOS will be leggier than the first one?

Thats not even a contest at this point

[stripe]

MI4 could end up anywhere from 170m - 200m. It all depends on the legs.Sherlock looks like Tron; great comparison. 160m is probably the finish line, for sure.Alvin looks poised for about 130-140m or so.Dragon Tattoo and Tin Tin will finish anywhere from 75-90m. Doubt either can earn the coveted 100m mark.

How can SH2 finish with 160M when it will reach the 140M mark by monday? It's not realistic. Also Tron is not a good comparission. Christmas 2010 calendar is different and worse than 2011. And both films are very different in genre, cast, tone, visuals, and SH2 appeals to a broader audience, IMO

[stripe]

Also, TL NYE weekend gross was 18M and SH2 will be in the 25/30M territory. We cannot compare both films until Christmas time is gone. After Christmas, if SH2 follows TL run it will reach the 180/190M territory.

[stripe]

So SH: AGOS will be leggier than the first one?

That was predictable, since the first SH opened on the 25th, not beneffiting for all the Christmas period. SH2 also had a good calendar to deal with.