Weekend Actuals | Spy 29.09M, SA 25.84M, Ins3 22.69M, Ent 10.28M, MM 7.83M, PP2 7.57M, TL 7.2M, AoU 6.34M

[Ethan Hunt]

The problem with HTTYD2 though is that some people prefered to see "22 Jump Street" that same weekend.

Don't try to turn the table about that "Oh, Minions is not going to do great numbers" thing.

HTTYD2 doesn't exactly have the same audience as 22JS

[Jandrew]

I just think its funny that people here still think Youtube views mean anything. Okay so the Minions got 25 million Youtube views. Cool?

The NBA Finals got 25 million viewers, and there was a Minions spot. Wow, Youtube is so gigantic. Combine all the channels and all the spots, and the 25 million+ pairs of eyes will be seeing the TV spots everyday. TV is still king. Not trailers in the theater, and sure as hell not Youtube.

[Ezen Baklattan]

I could see Minions making anything between $240m and $350m. 

[MrFanaticGuy34]

While we are in the "Minions" subject, are there anyone who knows how Much it could do WW?

Especially with China being stronger.

[Ethan Hunt]

Lol How To Train Your Dragon 2 was expected to increase massively Despicable Me 2. Don't now spin it as some good performance

No one is spinning it has a good performance

[Goffe]

HTTYD2 is like TA2, it performed decently enough, but it should have made more, much more.

[grim22]

Let's blame the audiences for rejecting non-franchise movies: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/summer-box-office-jurassic-world-1201514112/

 

There’s still a lot of popcorn movie season left to go, but this was not the way that many analysts and studios expected summer 2015 to play out.

“It’s not a Chicken Little, ‘the sky is falling’ situation, but certainly we need a big hit and we need it now,” said Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst at Rentrak.

The problem is that too many movies have arrived without numerals in the title or have been pitched to older audiences instead of the teenagers who drive the movie business from May through August.

“A lot of original titles combined with R-rated fare has had an impact,” said Dergarabedian.

There are a couple of reasons the expected windfall has yet to materialize. “Avengers: Age of Ultron” has earned a massive $438 million stateside, but it will fall short of the $623 million that its predecessor racked up. And films like “Mad Max: Fury Road” have failed to match the big box office returns of “Maleficent” and “Fault in Our Stars,” both of which premiered early in the summer of 2014.

As it currently stands, 2015’s summer is outpacing the previous year’s ticket sales by a mere 2.9%. That’s a paltry lead given that 2014 fielded the worst summer since 1997 when adjusting for inflation.

 

[kayumanggi]

Worldwide Box Office (Estimates) Weekend ending Jun 7

 

TITLE	WEEKEND BO ESTIMATE			WEEKEND CUME RELEASE			DISTRIBUTOR*
	WORLDWIDE	INTERNATIONAL	DOMESTIC	WORLDWIDE	INTERNATIONAL	DOMESTIC	INTERNATIONAL	# OF TERRITORIES	DOMESTIC
San Andreas	$124,240,000	$97,800,000	$26,440,000	$287,066,201	$188,000,000	$99,066,201	WB	69	WB
Spy	$55,600,000	$25,600,000	$30,000,000	$86,500,000	$56,500,000	$30,000,000	FOX	55	FOX
Insidious Chapter 3	$37,300,000	$14,300,000	$23,000,000	$166,000,000	$143,000,000	$23,000,000	SNY	43	FOC
Tomorrowland	$20,822,000	$13,800,000	$7,022,000	$169,735,978	$93,500,000	$76,235,978	DIS	78	DIS
Mad Max: Fury Road	$18,970,000	$11,000,000	$7,970,000	$314,804,265	$184,000,000	$130,804,265	WB	71	WB
Entourage	$13,420,000	$3,000,000	$10,420,000	$20,805,000	$3,000,000	$17,805,000	WB	7	WB
Avengers: Age Of Ult...	$13,201,000	$7,000,000	$6,201,000	$1,348,214,896	$910,200,000	$438,014,896	DIS	92	DIS
Stand by Me Doraemon	$12,500,000	$12,500,000		$147,000,000	$147,000,000		MUL	1	N/A
Pitch Perfect 2	$12,341,825	$4,600,000	$7,741,825	$249,923,420	$88,900,000	$161,023,420	UNI	47	UNI
Poltergeist	$6,000,000	$3,200,000	$2,800,000	$68,901,928	$24,500,000	$44,401,928	FOX	33	FOX
Aloha	$4,900,000	$1,600,000	$3,300,000	$17,941,804	$1,600,000	$16,341,804	FOX	8	SNY
Home	$2,660,000	$1,800,000	$860,000	$374,350,607	$202,400,000	$171,950,607	FOX	16	FOX

 

[baumer]

That Insidious WW number cant be right.

[water]

I just think its funny that people here still think Youtube views mean anything. Okay so the Minions got 25 million Youtube views. Cool?

The NBA Finals got 25 million viewers, and there was a Minions spot. Wow, Youtube is so gigantic. Combine all the channels and all the spots, and the 25 million+ pairs of eyes will be seeing the TV spots everyday. TV is still king. Not trailers in the theater, and sure as hell not Youtube.

 

except people aren't making absolute statements, they're pointing out that the minions trailers have less views than the despicable me trailers on youtube. that shows relative interest levels. people don't choose what commercials they see on tv but they do choose what youtube videos to watch

[Boxofficerules]

That Insidious WW number cant be right.

Why?

[Jandrew]

except people aren't making absolute statements, they're pointing out that the minions trailers have less views than the despicable me trailers on youtube. that shows relative interest levels. people don't choose what commercials they see on tv but they do choose what youtube videos to watch

 

Kewl.

[K1stpierre]

Oh, another argument about how trailer views mean something?

nope. Nada. (walks away)

[MrFanaticGuy34]

HTTYD2 is like TA2, it performed decently enough, but it should have made more, much more.

You're right. HTTYD2 really should have grossed more IMO.

Note to future animated sequels, never release them against a big comedy sequel on the same weekend.

Luckily, next year will shine for Dreamworks when KFP3 barges in.

[Avatree]

Why?

Because it says 143M overseas lol.

[The Futurist]

Tomorrowland = Hiroshima-Nagazaki combined.

[grim22]

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Edited June 7, 2015 by grim22

[baumer]

Because it says 143M overseas lol.

 

They added a 0 by accident.  It's 14 million.

[Mattrek]

Minions trailer is right

with 26 million views.

And you never heard of the Internet Archive?

My mistake on that one. Even so going by the drop in trailer views of 21% puts it at 290m max, which is on the extremely high end. 250m is not likely and it'll be way closer to 200m then 300m. A 21% drop is extremely generous from DM2 to Minions.

Heres a look at all sequel or spinoff movies since 2000 that have taken away an important character/actor and the resulting drop with it compared with the previous film:

Alvin and the Chipmunks 2: 219m

Am in and the Chipmunks 3: 133m

Drop: 39%

Bourne Ultimatum: 227m

Bourne Legacy: 113m

Drop: 50%

Narnia 2: Prince Caspian: 141m

Narnia 3: Voyage of the Dawn Treader: 103m

Drop: 37%

2 Fast 2 Furious: 127m

Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift: 62m

Drop: 51%

Lord of the Rings: ROTK: 377m

Hobbit: AUJ: 303m

Drop: 19%

Madagascar 3: 216

Penguins of Madagascar: 83m

Drop: 61%

Marvel's the Avengers: 623m

Iron Man 3: 409m

Drop: 34%

The Muppets: 88m

Muppets Most Wanted: 51m

Drop: 42%

Paranormal Activity 4: 54m

Paranormal Activity: Marked Ones: 32m

Drop: 40%

POTC: AWE: 309m

POTC: OST: 241m

Drop: 22%

Scary Movie 4: 91m

Scary Movie 5: 32m

Drop: 64%

Shrek Forever After: 238m

Puss in Boots: 149m

Drop: 37%

Spider-Man 3: 336m

The Amazing Spider-Man: 262m

Drop: 20%

Spy Kids 3D: 111m

Spy Kids 4: 38m

Drop: 65%

Terminator 3: 150m

Terminator Salvation: 125m

Drop: 17%

Transformers 3: 352m

Transformers 4: 245m

Drop: 30%

X-Men: The Last Stand: 234m

X-Men: Origins: Wokverine: 179m

Drop: 23%

You could even make an argument for Catching Fire to Mockingjay, because the hunger games were no longer in the movie. If studios change part of what made a franchise successful the next film always drops a bare minimum of 20% no matter the circumstances. Characters play a much bigger role then we think in franchises even if we don't see them having a big role, they obviously do.

Hell we've always argued the reason The Avengers is so successful is because of the ensemble of many different heroes together. The same logic applies here.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Mattrek Loves Del Toro

[Mattrek]

Transformers was already on a downward slope with two badly received movies. Increasing the gap from 2 years to 3 years between the movies, Transformers was getting much more irrelevant due to franchises like Marvel which have taken over the family audience for big movies.

Inside Out eating into Minions? Monsters University and DM2 were released at the same times as these two.

Big difference is one was a pretty good sequel to a well liked film 10+ years ago and this time around it's an original movie garnering tons of buzz and praise for its exploration of a child's mind.