Weekend #s: Straight Outta Compton - 26.8M; Mission Impossible - 11.7M; Sinister 2 - 10.6M; Hitman - 8.2M; American Ultra - 5.5M

[Warhorse]

The line of thinking seems to be that they want studios to stop making these kinds of franchise entries "nobody asked for" because they squeeze out better (usually original) movies that could have been made/released instead. They want "bad" franchises (franchises they don't like) to be punished, not rewarded. To people like this, it's those dumb GA moviegoers in (whatever country/market - USA, China, wherever) ruining cinema by being stupid enough to prolong the life of a franchise that should be dead by all rights if this were a just world.

In short: "How dare anybody like this, the people who do are ruining the movie industry."

Yeah, and I guess same people don't realize those franchises that the GA go to is what helps studios fund smaller oscar worthy projects that only film critics can seem to digest.

[TServo2049]

Yeah, and I guess same people don't realize those franchises that the GA go to is what helps studios fund smaller oscar worthy projects that only film critics can seem to digest.

I was actually referring to people who say these "unnecessary" franchise sequels and attempted reboots are killing off the original tentpoles and mid-budget programmers, not art films. The people who think popular entertainments should not all be sequels and (worse yet) poor attempts to recycled franchise from prior decades.

Edited August 24, 2015 by TServo2049

[TServo2049]

As I suspected, the gap between Minions and IO isn't going to end up very much. Minions pulling similar numbers to IO at the same point and 9m behind. Wouldn't be shocked if Minions finishes less than 10m behind.

But...but...TOXIC WOM!

Edited August 24, 2015 by TServo2049

[Frozen]

You guys are going to make fun of me, but tonight I saw MI5 and it was the first MI movie I have ever seen. Surprisingly I was not lost. 

[Jonwo]

I was actually referring to people who say these "unnecessary" franchise sequels and attempted reboots are killing off the original tentpoles and mid-budget programmers, not art films. The people who think popular entertainments should not all be sequels and (worse yet) poor attempts to recycled franchise from prior decades.

 

TBH mid budget films are still being made but not in huge droves nor in prime months. Even Disney, who only a few years back said they'd only make tentpoles have made a few low to mid budget films in the last few years and have two in 2016 with The Finest Hours and The Queen of Katwe. 

[TServo2049]

TBH mid budget films are still being made but not in huge droves nor in prime months. Even Disney, who only a few years back said they'd only make tentpoles have made a few low to mid budget films in the last few years and have two in 2016 with The Finest Hours and The Queen of Katwe.

True. Most of the complaints I hear are about non-sequel tentpoles getting squeezed out, with mid-budget films being a second.

[terrestrial]

Market Share for Each Source 1995-2015

Rank	Source	Movies	Total Box Office	Tickets	Share
1	Original Screenplay	5,723	$84,261,254,168	13,526,852,507	34.01%
2	Based on Fiction Book/Short Story	1,606	$40,053,861,450	6,266,325,503	16.17%
3	Based on Comic/Graphic Novel	154	$13,166,709,084	1,853,712,600	5.31%
4	Remake	276	$10,230,933,730	1,650,229,419	4.13%
5	Based on TV	197	$9,883,342,296	1,536,207,496	3.99%
6	Based on Real Life Events	2,124	$9,049,210,787	1,406,221,587	3.65%
7	Based on Factual Book/Article	123	$4,408,689,893	630,092,465	1.78%
8	Based on Folk Tale/Legend/Fairytale	55	$2,414,278,789	333,893,043	0.97%
9	Spin-Off	27	$1,946,469,217	259,818,550	0.79%
10	Based on Play	214	$1,891,986,396	300,247,675	0.76%
11	Based on Theme Park Ride	7	$1,372,018,326	206,121,497	0.55%
12	Based on Game	35	$1,051,351,974	164,771,563	0.42%
13	Based on Religious Text	24	$785,345,892	122,912,065	0.32%
14	Based on Musical or Opera	31	$706,648,249	111,992,540	0.29%
15	Based on Short Film	29	$621,759,815	92,847,214	0.25%
16	Based on Toy	6	$585,921,457	77,551,174	0.24%
17	Compilation	26	$95,631,466	16,386,934	0.04%
18	Based on Movie	7	$51,605,092	7,212,306	0.02%
19	Based on Musical Group	4	$32,791,360	6,672,412	0.01%
20	Based on Ballet	3	$1,202,981	233,778	0.00%
21	Based on Web Series	1	$1,380	173	0.00%

 

[Jonwo]

True. Most of the complaints I hear are about non-sequel tentpoles getting squeezed out, with mid-budget films being a second.

 

I do wonder if something like Gone Girl or American Sniper would have done well as they did had they been released in say June or July rather than October and January. 

[WrathOfHan]

The advertising for Transporter is really making it known that it has IMAX lol

Edited August 24, 2015 by WrathOfHan

[Mojoguy]

Why? If you don't care to see the franchise, then don't see it. I never understood this line of thinking. It's selflish. If people are liking the movies, and the studios don't mind forking out more cash to make future movies, then so be it, it's not coming out of your pocket.

 

Stop defending trashy movies.

[terrestrial]

What I forgot to add:

1995-1999 they released 176 to 186 Original Screenplay Movies per year according to The-Numbers out of 280 (1995) to 385 (1999) movies in complete

 

2014 it was a bit more = 389 out of now 699 movies

 

One of the many problems certain movies have: too much competition for a market with ~ decreasing admissions, stoped for a bit by e.g. 2009 Avatar, 2012 TDKR/Avengers....

 

	1995	1996	1997	1998	1999	2000	2001	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015
Tickets (billion)	1.22	1.27	1.42	1.45	1.44	1.39	1.44	1.58	1.55	1.47	1.39	1.41	1.40	1.39	1.42	1.33	1.28	1.39	1.34	1.27	1.35
Revenue ($bn)	5.29	5.59	6.51	6.78	7.30	7.48	8.13	9.19	9.35	9.11	8.93	9.25	9.63	9.95	10.65	10.48	10.14

 

[MovieMan89]

You guys are going to make fun of me, but tonight I saw MI5 and it was the first MI movie I have ever seen. Surprisingly I was not lost. 

They're very Bond in the sense of not requiring you see any previous installments to follow any particular one.

[Frozen]

They're very Bond in the sense of not requiring you see any previous installments to follow any particular one.

 

Yeah I really liked it. I assumed I'd be lost, but it was easy to follow. I never gave any thought to this franchise before, but then so many people kept posting about it here that I decided I needed to see it.

[Rorschach]

Why? If you don't care to see the franchise, then don't see it. I never understood this line of thinking. It's selflish. If people are liking the movies, and the studios don't mind forking out more cash to make future movies, then so be it, it's not coming out of your pocket.

Um, most of the money they threw at their shit movies came from us, the moviegoers. Where do you think they got their money from? A tree?

And yeah, you are right. I shouldn't see the movie. Infact, I didn't even see the movie. Probably never will. Because why would I waste even a single dollar towards something that was half-assed and had no care or thought put into it? Something that AoU, F7, JW, AM, and MI5 did the opposite of.

If I'm selfish for not liking bad movies, then I don't wanna know what I'd be if I was selfless.

[Ethan Hunt]

Yeah I really liked it. I assumed I'd be lost, but it was easy to follow. I never gave any thought to this franchise before, but then so many people kept posting about it here that I decided I needed to see it.

I suggest you watch the others since you enjoyed the fifth one

[Ethan Hunt]

Um, most of the money they threw at their shit movies came from us, the moviegoers. Where do you think they got their money from? A tree?

And yeah, you are right. I shouldn't see the movie. Infact, I didn't even see the movie. Probably never will. Because why would I waste even a single dollar towards something that was half-assed and had no care or thought put into it? Something that AoU, F7, JW, AM, and MI5 did the opposite of.

If I'm selfish for not liking bad movies, then I don't wanna know what I'd be if I was selfless.

You can't really claim its a bad movie if you haven't seen it.

Not defending the film by any means.

Edited August 24, 2015 by Ethan Hunt

[Rorschach]

I suggest you watch the others since you enjoyed the fifth one

Even though I thought the fifth one was okay, I'm still very interested in going back and watching the older films.

[Rorschach]

You can't really claim its a bad movie if you haven't seen it.

Not defending the film by any means.

I know. I'm just speaking in general about bad films.

[Ethan Hunt]

Even though I thought the fifth one was okay, I'm still very interested in going back and watching the older films.

Was Rogue Nation the first one you've seen?

Edited August 24, 2015 by Ethan Hunt

[Rorschach]

Was Rogue Nation the first one you've seen?

Is Donald Trump a douchebag?