keysersoze123 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, zackzack said: Cumberbatch is big in China. Strange will do $80M, at least, and max out at $120M. Maybe even more. So far pre-sales have been weak. I doubt it will do 120m. 600m yuan is looking like good target. This year Hollywood movies have disappointed except Zoo, Jungle Book and to an extent CW and Warcraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said: So far pre-sales have been weak. I doubt it will do 120m. 600m yuan is looking like good target. This year Hollywood movies have disappointed except Zoo, Jungle Book and to an extent CW and Warcraft. Comic Book Movie’s first Sat increase and Sun drop were mainly between 25%-30% in China this year. In other words, OW ≈ 3.2* OD.If DS OD do less than $12m(¥80m), $40m(¥270m) OW and $88m(¥600m) total can also be very dangerous. Civil War OW/OD = $96.59m/$30.46m = 3.17 Total/OW = $191.78m/$96.59m = 1.99 Apocalypse OW/OD = $58.48m/$18.02m = 3.25(best of 2016) Total/OW = $121.58m/$58.48m = 2.08(best of 2016) Batman v Superman OW/OD = $56.96m/$19.8m = 2.87(It’s not my fault.Only increased 21% on first Sat and dropped 34% on first Sun) Total/OW = $95.77m/$56.96m = 1.68 The competition would be strong and I don’t think DS could have 2.1×(Total/OW). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Comic Book Movie’s first Sat increase and Sun drop were mainly between 25%-30% in China this year. In other words, OW ≈ 3.2* OD.If DS OD do less than $12m(¥80m), $40m(¥270m) OW and $88m(¥600m) total can also be very dangerous. Civil War OW/OD = $96.59m/$30.46m = 3.17 Total/OW = $191.78m/$96.59m = 1.99 Apocalypse OW/OD = $58.48m/$18.02m = 3.25(best of 2016) Total/OW = $121.58m/$58.48m = 2.08(best of 2016) Batman v Superman OW/OD = $56.96m/$19.8m = 2.87(It’s not my fault.Only increased 21% on first Sat and dropped 34% on first Sun) Total/OW = $95.77m/$56.96m = 1.68 The competition would be strong and I don’t think DS could have 2.1×(Total/OW). All of these movies though require you to have seen previous movies to fully understand the story. Not Doctor Strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said: The competition would be strong and I don’t think DS could have 2.1×(Total/OW). Billy Lynn's and what else ? Edited October 31, 2016 by Durden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Daxtreme said: All of these movies though require you to have seen previous movies to fully understand the story. Not Doctor Strange. Wrong.I won’t tell you that AM gets 2.48× in 2015 and DOFP gets 3×.Competition becomes stronger year after year and the showings would be cut a lot when new movies open. 21 minutes ago, Durden said: Billy Lynn's and what else ? Billy Lynn - Nov.11 Deepwater Horizon - Nov.15 Madame Bovary&The Warriors Gate - Nov.18 Allied - Nov.23 Fantastic Beasts & Moana - Nov.25 Miss Peregrine - Dec.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 5 hours ago, Quigley said: Disney is now guaranteed to reach $4B in OS gross, probs even before Moana is released. It has already surpassed its previous record (2015) of $3.57B, which is (and now was) the third biggest a studio has ever achieved. It will also push Fox's 2014 total of $3.73B out of the way by next weekend. The overseas crown is currently held by Universal's 2015 gross of $4.44B, but unless Moana and Rogue One tank big size, then Disney will be holding the crown by late December. Projection for final total: $4.7-4.8B. The domestic all-time crown is also a foregone conclusion (current holder: Universal $2.44B, Disney's current 2016 gross: $2.15B -> projection for final total: $3.0-3.1B). What a year! Incredible Congrats Disney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 18 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Billy Lynn - Nov.11 Deepwater Horizon - Nov.15 Madame Bovary&The Warriors Gate - Nov.18 Allied - Nov.23 Fantastic Beasts & Moana - Nov.25 Miss Peregrine - Dec.2 Thanks. Not looks so strong for me. Fantastic Beasts just opens three weeks later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Durden said: Thanks. Not looks so strong for me. Fantastic Beasts just opens three weeks later. Original release date was Nov.18.But China changed the mind for protecting local films 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmBuff Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Why would Strange do less than Antman in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFanaticGuy34 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, FilmBuff said: Why would Strange do less than Antman in China? Well, i don't get the big deal either.....but i think i got theories why some people would expect less than expected for Doctor Strange in China. 1. So many local chinese movies that probably has bigger appeal/hype than Doctor Strange over there. 2. There's too many of them. Which could result cutting Strange's legs off easily.....if the chinese audience likes those movies way more than this film. Either they don't want a Hollywood blockbuster to be too much of a breakout and rather want to see their own local films come on top. That's maybe how it goes. China-grosses for Hollywood blockbusters are unpredictable....and they could either result to a breakout....or an underperforming run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 'Doctor Strange’ Levitates To $87.7M In Overseas Bow ; http://deadline.com/2016/10/doctor-strange-overseas-opening-benedict-cumberbatch-marvel-inferno-trolls-china-international-box-office-weekend-results-1201844444/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 9 hours ago, FilmBuff said: Why would Strange do less than Antman in China? The OD pre-sale number become better now ($12m?) but it is difficult to beat Antman in US dollar(DS - $1=¥6.77 AM - $1=¥6.38). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 10/31/2016 at 1:46 AM, keysersoze123 said: So far pre-sales have been weak. I doubt it will do 120m. 600m yuan is looking like good target. This year Hollywood movies have disappointed except Zoo, Jungle Book and to an extent CW and Warcraft. Xmen over performed a bit. The fact that it beat DOFP while facing Warcraft 5 days after its opening. Xmen Apocalypse pre sales did not look so hot too, so there is hope that Dr. Strange will surprise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviesRus Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It would be weird if this grossed less than X-Men Apocalypse in China, given Marvel being a much more popular franchise than XMen there + more buzzy visuals/3D/IMAX + Cumberbatch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 From a Disney press release: Disney’s 2016 global record comes on the heels of a powerful $87.7M international opening for Marvel’s Doctor Strange, which is now at $110.1M internationally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Purple Minion said: From a Disney press release: Disney’s 2016 global record comes on the heels of a powerful $87.7M international opening for Marvel’s Doctor Strange, which is now at $110.1M internationally. Way to go Disney! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Global Disney total reaches new studio record: $5.85B Among Disney's industry records, broken this year: fastest studio to hit $2B NA (July 16), $3B OS (July 6) and $5B global (July 10). source: Deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Quigley said: Global Disney total reaches new studio record: $5.85B Among Disney's industry records, broken this year: fastest studio to hit $2B NA (July 16), $3B OS (July 6) and $5B global (July 10). source: Deadline Disney is such a juggernaut, never underestimate Mickey Mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Fullbuster said: Disney is such a juggernaut, never underestimate Mickey Mouse Well, the mouse bought many of the successes they are having. If I am not wrong, they spent 15 billion buying Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm. They are not specially creative. They bought the material and now they are exploiting it. Of course, good for them for making so good business, but it is starting to be a monopoly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, peludo said: Well, the mouse bought many of the successes they are having. If I am not wrong, they spent 15 billion buying Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm. They are not specially creative. They bought the material and now they are exploiting it. Of course, good for them for making so good business, but it is starting to be a monopoly. While that is true they're still the ones who saw the potential and bought them, many other conglomerates could have bought them if they wanted to and benefit from it. So still kudos to Disney on these ones. And by the way they're managing Star Wars so much more efficiently than George Lucas / Lucas Films. And they made Marvel the huge brand it is now by giving the money and a media empire empire to help it when it comes to movies. The only minus is Pixar, I'd love Disney to increase its size to help it produce more movies, mixing original movies and sequels because I'm not satisfied about Pixar : their only movies that I loved this decade are Toy Story 3 and Inside Out. And ther rebirth of WDAS brings me such joy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...