stuart360 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just now, hasanahmad said: Facts about avatar avatar made money because it was supposed to act as the rebirth of 3D in theaters. Avatar was a 3D showcase and made a lot of money becsuse it was made for 3D. Now that nearly everyone avoids 3D , avatar 2 will not even come close to the original because the gimmick is dying . Now when people realize the story is ok and no one cares about blue aliens the sequel will flop in comparison Ah thats where BKB went, good to see you bud!. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggestgeekever Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Is a 12% drop today to get a $250+M weekend too much to ask? Probably, but now that I've said it, you want it too. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart360 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 1 minute ago, Biggestgeekever said: Is a 12% drop today to get a $250+M weekend too much to ask? Probably, but now that I've said it, you want it too. That would be such a nice round number wouldn't it. It just roles off the tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B J Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 film has 23 sellouts so far today, on track for 26+ for the third day in a row. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 minutes ago, hasanahmad said: Facts about avatar avatar made money because it was supposed to act as the rebirth of 3D in theaters. Avatar was a 3D showcase and made a lot of money becsuse it was made for 3D. Now that nearly everyone avoids 3D , avatar 2 will not even come close to the original because the gimmick is dying . Now when people realize the story is ok and no one cares about blue aliens the sequel will flop in comparison I'm hardly an Avatar fan, but betting against Jim is NEVER the right call. He always finds a new way to crack the pop consciousness. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 minutes ago, hasanahmad said: Facts about avatar avatar made money because it was supposed to act as the rebirth of 3D in theaters. Avatar was a 3D showcase and made a lot of money becsuse it was made for 3D. Now that nearly everyone avoids 3D , avatar 2 will not even come close to the original because the gimmick is dying . Now when people realize the story is ok and no one cares about blue aliens the sequel will flop in comparison It made money because Cameron excels about selling the experience. The 3D in Avatar was part of that. It worked because of how exacting he was about the 3D, in a way that most blockbusters aren't. (The MCU, for instance, has basically no reason to be 3D.) When it comes around to Avatar 2, the market trends are probably not going to matter, because he's, again, going to be selling the experience. If that involves 3D and 120 FPS, then I'm sure that they won't be gimmicks, but rather integral parts of creating the best cinematic viewing possible. Arguably, Peter Jackson was trying to do this in The Hobbit films, but his strengths as a filmmaker aren't really in that direction, so it fell short. Cameron is the absolute master at understanding how to use the film technology to the best effect. Basically, it's no different than Nolan's focus on using 15/70 IMAX, or Tarantino's choice of 70mm for Hateful Eight. It's part of the experience they're trying to sell. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Of the 43 showtimes for Star Wars today at my theater, only 8 of them are in 3D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 29 minutes ago, Noctis said: So...DH2 manages to have an OS OW higher than TFA. Thank fuck it held onto something. But DH2 and TFA both had OS openings that are far more impressive than Jurassic World because they didn't have China. Jurassic World beating (more like fudging) DH2's $314m by a mere $2m still annoys me. Hmmm....seems like JW barely nudged by another record or two as well. 24 minutes ago, CJ Ren said: The franchise is dead. It went from a 44M OW (with 2 days of burned demand) to 25M to 14M. It is dead. It is still gonna do a good 70-80M DOM but they won't greenlight another one. Well, that will be one less movie in theaters that I wasn't going to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 minutes ago, Damien Spock said: It made money because Cameron excels about selling the experience. The 3D in Avatar was part of that. It worked because of how exacting he was about the 3D, in a way that most blockbusters aren't. (The MCU, for instance, has basically no reason to be 3D.) When it comes around to Avatar 2, the market trends are probably not going to matter, because he's, again, going to be selling the experience. If that involves 3D and 120 FPS, then I'm sure that they won't be gimmicks, but rather integral parts of creating the best cinematic viewing possible. Arguably, Peter Jackson was trying to do this in The Hobbit films, but his strengths as a filmmaker aren't really in that direction, so it fell short. Cameron is the absolute master at understanding how to use the film technology to the best effect. Basically, it's no different than Nolan's focus on using 15/70 IMAX, or Tarantino's choice of 70mm for Hateful Eight. It's part of the experience they're trying to sell. Except those don't require the stupid glasses. I preferred Avatar in 2D Blu-ray and wish I could have seen it in 2D IMAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yup, the Hobbit was probably the worst choice for a 48fps movie. It needs to be used for something like Mirror's Edge to really shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 amazing numbers. I expect a sub 20% drop on sunday so a $55 sunday is happening for a $244,2 OW. HUGE. I'm really expecting the monday number, it will be the first film ever to make $30 on a Monday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyxx Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 33 minutes ago, Darth Water Bottle said: J.J. Abrams meanwhile has really only done studio projects (Super 8, Mission Impossible 3, two Star Trek movies). That's four films, one more than Johnson, before Star Wars. So if anyone is worried about Johnson's output so far... The pilots of LOST and Alias are directed better than Looper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: Except those don't require the stupid glasses. I preferred Avatar in 2D Blu-ray and wish I could have seen it in 2D IMAX. Even with general falling 3D share, people will turn out for films where it's worth it for the experience. Gravity's a good example. There's no reason to think Cameron's suddenly not going to be able to sell people on the format. It's not that people don't like 3D, it's just that it's not felt as necessary in most cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Aus and UK staying much flatter on Sunday... hmmm hmmmm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxRox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Final numbers over $242.2M would put TFA in the top 100 DOM (unadjusted) after OW. (#100 is the original Ghostbusters.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk the Hutt Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just now, Lordmandeep said: Aus and UK staying much flatter on Sunday... hmmm hmmmm 65m Sunday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just now, Jayhawk the Hutt said: 65m Sunday I have a sense could go up to 55+ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It's relaxing to talk to people in real life who do not follow box office. Explaining to them the absurdly incredible thing that SW7 is doing this weekend garners the proper reaction. They are wowed. I explain that it was not considered possible to break the OW record in December and that the old December record was 84 million so they would not care one way or another if it was 238m or 250m. Getting anywhere near the OW record would be amazing....barely breaking it would be astounding. Flying by the record? Crazy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just now, Damien Spock said: Even with general falling 3D share, people will turn out for films where it's worth it for the experience. Gravity's a good example. There's no reason to think Cameron's suddenly not going to be able to sell people on the format. It's not that people don't like 3D, it's just that it's not felt as necessary in most cases. I agree with that. Gravity was like a theme park ride so a lot of people felt the 3D was worth it. Avatar is the only franchise that might have enough 3D goodwill with the audience to get similar 3D business to Avatar 1/Gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 33 minutes ago, CJ Ren said: Yes, it was. At least where I live it was 100% because there were no 2D shows available. And I am sure the share was over 80% in every country. No, that wasn't even true domestically and overseas for its opening weekend only 25% of the screens Avatar played on were 3D and they accounted for 56% of the gross. That went up as positive word of mouth spread, but its 3D share didn't and couldn't possibly have reached anywhere near 100%. There just weren't nearly enough 3D screens back then. So few, in fact, that it got prematurely pushed out of thousands of them for other 3D movies. source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/avatar-dominates-intl-boxoffice-92522 Edited December 20, 2015 by arlo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
