GiantCALBears Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 The more I think about that Sunday #, the more it blows my mind. Avatar is toast domestically & that's simply because of the weak schedule/holiday factor. It's not going to do $1b but $800m is realistic now which is obviously ludicrous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Just now, #ED2-D2 said: I understand some people think it will drop less than 40% on Monday. I think if the figure lands about 60M for Sunday, that it's really hard to pull off a 30M+ on Monday. I don't think that is possible with winter breaks not in full effect yet. ...we just had a $250m weekend in December and you still have reservations about a $30m Monday? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sunday basically tied Friday day business, some of you don't understand how truly insane that is with the level this is performing at. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 5 minutes ago, #ED2-D2 said: I understand some people think it will drop less than 40% on Monday. I think if the figure lands about 60M for Sunday, that it's really hard to pull off a 30M+ on Monday. I don't think that is possible with winter breaks not in full effect yet. Same day 2009: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2009-12-21&p=.htm Lot of really good holds for all movies, not just the freak Avatar. I think 50% is a worst case scenario. 40-45% seems more likely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Fuck a $247m number, I want $250m! It's so close just get it there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk the Hutt Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sagemode87 said: I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but this movie doesn't deserve to beat Avatar. Unlike Star Wars, Avatar was built on pure word of mouth, almost no hype upon release. TFA is from a franchise continuing from a 40 year legacy, hype was inevitable. What Avatar did is to be respected in my opinion. Of course it's respected. But Avatar definitely had hype on release (nowhere near SW, but what movie has ever had this much hype?). It's run is amazing, and all the people on this site who know box office are still in awe of it. Any movie that can set the all-time DOM record is impressive, and the way Avatar did it is one of the greatest runs in BO history. But SW still needs great WOM (which it's getting) to beat Avatar, and if it does set the DOM record, it certainly doesn't diminish what Avatar accomplished. Edited December 21, 2015 by Jayhawk the Hutt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWalker Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Im glad to see Jurassic world fall It was a GREAT film but it did not deserve to TOUCH the (first) avengers Soon that misstep in our society will be a distant memory and...well....im glad To a much .more deserving film 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said: Sunday basically tied Friday day business, some of you don't understand how truly insane that is with the level this is performing at. I know how insane it is since you gave me shit last night for hoping a 60 Sunday could happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerMike Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Amazing hold for Sunday! Wonder if Disney is working some magic to pull some money from Friday and give a little extra to Saturday so that it can have all records for FRI-SUN! Easily see this doing 31-35M today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 over $60m is just insane.... 3 DAYS in a row over $60m!!!! holy crap! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 minutes ago, Sagemode87 said: I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but this movie doesn't deserve to beat Avatar. Unlike Star Wars, Avatar was built on pure word of mouth, almost no hype upon release. TFA is from a franchise continuing from a 40 year legacy, hype was inevitable. What Avatar did is to be respected in my opinion. Avatar had a lot of hype before its realesase. You cannot open a movie to 77M despite a huge snow storm without great hype. Then it became a WOM monster. Star Wars 7 could also deliver some amazing legs thanks to WOM. We still don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOpeningGross Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 37 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said: Disney stock is plunging on the news (opened at $108.8 & quickly got up to $110, now at low of day barely holding $106), seems most of the BO was priced in already while the market around it is doing pretty well this morning. Well, that's because Star Wars' box office grosses are not a major driver of Disney's stock price. It's comical to see these articles titled "why is disney stock price dropping as Star Wars does record box office?" Disney's revenue is about $45B -- Star Wars' grosses and merchandise this year might account for, max, 10% of its revenue. Not anything to sniff at, but Disney stock is driven by much more important things like ESPN subscriptions (ESPN is presently valued at $50B, that should put the value of Star Wars to the entire Disney company in perspective), anti-trust issues in Europe, global revenue from theme parks (account for about $15B or 1/3 of gross revenue for Disney), and so forth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 33 minutes ago, #ED2-D2 said: We're expecting a Monday drop of about 50%? More like 40%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, CJ Ren said: 40M Monday and this place blows up... again. So, the Monday figure would be bigger than previous biggest single day in December ($37m AUJ)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Avatar was always going to be toppled just like Titanic before & TFA after it will be. It's the nature of inflation & media using unadjusted totals. It all depends on how you want to evaluate performance. No one ever talks about GWTW as the domestic champ & that's because it's time period isn't relevant today (plus they re-released it like 20 times lol). You have to evaluate the bigger picture, Avatar making the December record then going to have a 10x multiplier in 2009-10 could be argued easily as impressive as Titanic 20x multiplier in 1997-8. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I don't know why people want 250, 247 is a semiprime number, it's more stable, it will last longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk the Hutt Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 So it has a great chance at the Monday and Tuesday records, and a very good chance at the non-opening Wednesday and Friday records. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: I know how insane it is since you gave me shit last night for hoping a 60 Sunday could happen. UNDER PREDICT OVER DELIVER! Just like Iger! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Deserve has got nothing to do with it. Secondly, you say avatar was built purely on word of mouth, Star Wars has been being built for 40 years and that led up to this mammoth gigantic ridiculous opening. No one is ever taking anything away from Avatar but this Star Wars opening is 40 years of building and character development and fanfare and love all culminating into this weekend. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 This sucker's gonna be past 700m after New Year's weekend. Holy. Shit. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
