Weekend Actuals (Page 93): TFA 42.35M | The Revenant 39.83M | Daddy's Home 15.02M | The Forest 12.74M | Sisters 7.19M

[grey ghost]

1 minute ago, Baumer said:

It's definitely not going to make 200 million in China. Unfortunately they are saying now it will probably end around 135 million. So it is going to be a challenge to pass Titanic but I think it still has a chance. It had a good hold this weekend internationally and it will start dropping a little bit favorably in the weeks to come.

 

The way some people were talking (predicting sub-100 m) I was expecting the worst.

 

So I'd be more than happy with 135 m.

[bladels]

TFA needs $464m to beat Titanic WW

DOM will make another $140m, China $80~90m

So it needs $234~244m from other markets. Tough but not impossible 

[MrFanaticGuy34]

9 minutes ago, bladels said:

WOM in China is really bad, legs will be short

 

Damn....First Inside out, then Spectre...now this?.....

 

It's kinda suprising when overly praised films like IO, SW: EP7 got lesser WOM in China....yet something as badly recieved like Transformers 4 got better WOM in China.

 

Maybe the chinese don't agree with what american audience thought about these movies....but what can you do?......China is China.

Edited January 10, 2016 by MrFanaticGuy34

[baumer]

8 minutes ago, bladels said:

WOM in China is really bad, legs will be short

 

Not true at all. Fans love it. But those who have never seen SW before are confused by it. So its not horrible at all. 

 

[MovieMan89]

I would have to wonder if such a strong independent heroine was a bit much for Chinese audiences. They don't like the THG movies either. 

[kswiston]

12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Why so low for China? Didn't it open on par with the likes of AoU and JW? 

 

It didn't really open on par with either of those because AoU was a Tuesday release and JW was a Wednesday release. Opening on Saturday gives TFA its biggest possible OD (since Saturday is the strongest day for films in China). So while that first day looked good in comparison to a lot of other first days, AoU actually had a better Sat and Sun (day 5 and 6) than Star Wars did (day 1 and 2). Jurassic World had a bigger first Sunday (day 5) than Star Wars (day 2) as well. 

[baumer]

Dont take my word for it, go into the Chinese thread and see what they are saying. Word of mouth is mixed it is not horrible and is not great. Those who have never seen a Star Wars film before and are watching this one for the first one or obviously a bit confused by the whole thing.

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, bladels said:

TFA needs $464m to beat Titanic WW

DOM will make another $140m, China $80~90m

So it needs $234~244m from other markets. Tough but not impossible 

 

$234-244m off a $52m non China O/S w/e?    It needs to hit $1B domestic, which I don't see happening (without a late re-expansion or re-release)  and do better in China than expected which doesn't look to be happening either.

[Clef Ment]

Been trying to convert my chinese friend to SW before going to see VII, we had to watch Episode II in three times and I know she'll not like IV-VI because she doesn't like old stuff ().

 

Will probably stop after IV.

[terrestrial]

21 minutes ago, Filmovie said:

Very very unlikely for it to pass Titanic WW, almost impossible IMHO

 

It's first run it should I guess

OS 3D = $285,666,656, dom 3D = $57,884,114

 

NOT meant to take away anything, only providing details a few might miss (or to spare the work to look it up)

 

12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Why so low for China? Didn't it open on par with the likes of AoU and JW? 

 

different details like release dates,... = I hate how certain western outlats portrayed it so ... big

 

9 minutes ago, FTF said:

Not really up on China box office trends, but $53m in two days and it won't gross more than $135m for a whole month?? (movies only get 30 days right?)

WOM not good... and at 15 January = 4 wide releases + 16 jan another one = they do not have contracts like here = will loose a LOT of screens based on how much it makes = if it is big, it will losse less, if not = a lot

 

In my signature is a direct link to the China Forum, one click less work

[MovieMan89]

I'd say it makes about 165m more DOM (w/o a re-release) and 200 OS. So that leaves another 100m up to China. 

[terrestrial]

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice

STAR WARS Int'l: UK ($161M) GER ($94M) FRA ($76M) JPN ($65M) OZ ($57M) CHI ($52M) ESP ($31M) ITA ($27M) MEX ($26M) RUS ($25M) BRZ ($24M)

[MonstersandRoy]

The way I see it (my opinion). Lower end realistic predictions it certainly doesn't pass Titanic WW. Higher end it does.

 

Lower End

 

$130m US - NOW$812m + $130 = $942m

$140m Int (-China) - NOW$868m +150= $1.008b

$80m China - NOW$53+80 = $133m

 

$2.083b = Not Titanic

 

Realistic Higher End

 

$170m US -NOW$812+170= $982m

$180m Intl (-China) NOW$868+180 = $1.048b

$110m China - NOW$53+$110 = $163m

 

$2.193b = Beat Titanic

 

Some people may have higher hopes.

 

So Titanic is not impossible at all IMO, I'd say 30/40% chance.

 

Edited January 10, 2016 by MonstersandRoy

[philippe08]

27 minutes ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:

Unless they re-release SW: EP7.....which they could in he future.

Unless they re-release Titanic 4D Virtual Reality!.....which they could in he future.

 

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Hmm.....

 

If Force Awakens won't beat Titanic, worldwide?.....then what movie will?

 

Avengers: Infinity War P2? Jurassic World 2? SW: EP9? What will?

[MovieMan89]

So then I guess James really is gonna be a baby about it and not issue any form of congratulations to TFA whatsoever? Its been 5 days now. 

[MonstersandRoy]

1 minute ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:

Hmm.....

 

If Force Awakens won't beat Titanic, worldwide?.....then what movie will?

 

Avengers: Infinity War P2? Jurassic World 2? SW: EP9? What will?

Probably none of them. SW:EP9 best chance of those though. Recon Avatar 2 may pass Titanic though.

Edited January 10, 2016 by MonstersandRoy

[Ethan Hunt]

*Avatar WW won't be going down for quite sometime... 

 

*probably

Edited January 10, 2016 by Ethan Hunt

[tyrannyreborn]

43 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice

Internationally, STAR WARS racked up $104M ($921M total) this weekend--#7 movie of all-time, passing TRANS4MERS, FROZEN & AVENGERS.

47% drop from holdover markets. Very good.

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Just now, MonstersandRoy said:

Probably none of them. SW:EP9 best chance of those though. Recon Avatar 2 may pass Titanic though.

 

I know Avatar 2 will definately do that.......

 

I'm just refering to Non-James Cameron flicks.