Gavin Feng Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ariana said: It's understandable. TFA made a bad impression on Chinese audiences, just like BvS and DCEU. I don't expect Ro1 and Ep8 can earn more than TFA did. RO may only earn 50% of what TFA did. Ep8 won’t drop. TFA did mixed more like AOU(both of them 7.1/10 on fans website Douban). Many fans were annoyed that Cap protected Barkey after he knew Tony’s parents were killed by his best friends, and some audience can’t understand the complex relationships between so many people(My parents asked me why Barkey won’t get old after 20 years, they didn’t know Cap and Barkey are WWII soldier). Ep8 still have hope if the story can be more friendly to audience who don’t know much about SW. Edited January 3, 2017 by Gavin Feng 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Gavin Feng said: RO may only earn 50% of what TFA did. Ep8 won’t drop. TFA did mixed more like AOU(both of them 7.1/10 on fans website Douban). Many fans were annoyed that Cap protected Barkey after he knew Tony’s parents were killed by his best friends. Ep8 still have hope if the story can be more friendly to audience who don’t know much about SW. When is the winter holidays for school kids in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: When is the winter holidays for school kids in China? One or two weeks before Spring Festival(Jan.28). My holiday start from Jan.13. Feb.20 might be the ending. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariana Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said: RO may only earn 50% of what TFA did. Ep8 won’t drop. TFA did mixed more like AOU(both of them 7.1/10 on fans website Douban). Many fans were annoyed that Cap protected Barkey after he knew Tony’s parents were killed by his best friends, and some audience can’t understand the complex relationships between so many people(My parents asked me why Barkey won’t get old after 20 years, they didn’t know Cap and Barkey are WWII soldier). Ep8 still have hope if the story can be more friendly to audience who don’t know much about SW. Oh, it's great to hear that, so far I've only chatted with some Chinese fangirls on tumblr and they said that they're only rooting for ReyxKylo (as i remember, they named that couple Reylo) and don't care about the others. Well i mean SW franchise has more elements than just ...Rey and Kylo but they're only interested in that couple... Edited January 3, 2017 by Ariana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Ariana said: Oh, it's great to hear that, so far I've only chatted with some Chinese fangirls on tumblr and they said that they're only rooting for ReyxKylo (as i remember, they named that couple Reylo) and don't care about the others. Well i mean SW franchise has more elements than just ...Rey and Kylo but they're only interested in that couple... Don't bother about the fangirls, a lot of them talk a lot on forums and online, but does nothing to support the box office. I will rather look at word of mouth in China and see how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisman0606 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) Here is ChinaBoxOffice Prediction: https://twitter.com/ChinaBoxOffice/status/816351818263461888 Edited January 3, 2017 by chrisman0606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ariana said: Oh, it's great to hear that, so far I've only chatted with some Chinese fangirls on tumblr and they said that they're only rooting for ReyxKylo (as i remember, they named that couple Reylo) and don't care about the others. Well i mean SW franchise has more elements than just ...Rey and Kylo but they're only interested in that couple... That’s not bad. Many fans who watched MCU only care about Cap & Barkey(Winter-Shield Party) or Cap & Tony(Iron-Shield Party). Not only Team Cap or Iron but also fans were divided by Marvel in China after watching Civil War. Edited January 4, 2017 by Gavin Feng 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Tell you guys a joke, someone said SW is a second-rate franchise in China. In fact it is third-rate now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariana Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 20 hours ago, TigerPaw said: Don't bother about the fangirls, a lot of them talk a lot on forums and online, but does nothing to support the box office. I will rather look at word of mouth in China and see how it goes. Oh, Chinese critics really hate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, Ariana said: Oh, Chinese critics really hate it Really? Where do you see this? I am reading rave reviews on weibo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said: Tell you guys a joke, someone said SW is a second-rate franchise in China. In fact it is third-rate now. How do you define second-rate? What box office number in yuan are we looking at? What films/franchise you think is considered to be 2nd rate? And if Rogue One beats it, it is considered 2nd rate right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: How do you define second-rate? What box office number in yuan are we looking at? What films/franchise you think is considered to be 2nd rate? And if Rogue One beats it, it is considered 2nd rate right? Pre-sale is the level of ST Beyond, which made ¥439m and ranked 33rd of 2016. In Domestic, 31-35 of 2016 —— Ride Along 2, Don’t Breathe, The Accountant, Teenage Mutant Ninga, The Purge. ¥439m won’t let RO be one of Top.35 in 2017 unless China box office drops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Presales may lead to sub 50M OD, 400M yuan is questionable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, Olive said: Presales may lead to sub 50M OD, 400M yuan is questionable. you never know. it could be more walk in driven. Didn't Apocalypse also looked bad with presales(I remember seeing sub 500m predictions at that point). But ended up grossing over 800m yuan despite warcraft taking away chunk of screens early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: you never know. it could be more walk in driven. Didn't Apocalypse also looked bad with presales(I remember seeing sub 500m predictions at that point). But ended up grossing over 800m yuan despite warcraft taking away chunk of screens early. I gave a low prediction for Apocalypse’s total gross because of Warcraft.OD pre-sale was not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Presales less on OD still less than 8m yuan. I am becoming pessimistic. If it doesn't pick up tomorrow, its really going to flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 On 03/01/2017 at 11:01 AM, Ariana said: It's understandable. TFA made a bad impression on Chinese audiences, just like BvS and DCEU. I don't expect Ro1 and Ep8 can earn more than TFA did. I don't expect it to make half of SW 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 asian countries are rather cold twards star wars franchise, even after EP7, my friend would all like, why SW are so boring and chessy?? old-fashioned looking, all the complaints.....for them, avengers are their star wars here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiopazzo2 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Doh, 100$ is not sure eh ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 On 1/3/2017 at 1:48 PM, Olive said: In Taiwan, Hacksaw Ridge beat the crap out of RO, I won't be surprised same thing happens in Mainland. yup 5 hours ago, Olive said: Presales may lead to sub 50M OD, 400M yuan is questionable. looks like it 4 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: I gave a low prediction for Apocalypse’s total gross because of Warcraft.OD pre-sale was not that bad. XMA had decent WoM and held well against Warcrap OD in the 40s unless they do an online discount as someone said. If so it will barely clear 300m and lose to STB and HR. As far as tentpoles go, its a 3rd rate number in China. 1B+ being a top performer, 600m-1B is mid line and 300m and change is bottom feeding, like T5 and Warcrap in domestic. However they are midline and top line here. CA3 XMA R1 PS x PS x multi multi multi multi CA3 m XMA m PS 1am MN PS MN/PS OD PS OD/PS MN MN/PS OD PS OD/PS MN PS OD PS OD proj OD proj Th 0.8 22.6 2.4 75.4 2.3 48.7 0.18 0.8 63.4 40.9 Fr 1.2 15.1 3.6 50.3 3.2 35.0 0.25 1.2 60.3 42.0 Sa 1.8 10.1 6.2 29.2 4.2 26.7 0.30 2.2 64.2 58.7 Su 2.1 8.6 8.1 22.3 4.9 22.9 0.57 2.7 59.2 60.6 Mo 2.8 6.5 11.9 15.2 6.2 18.1 0.65 3.1 47.2 56.0 Tu 3.5 5.2 16.3 11.1 9.0 12.4 0.73 3.7 41.1 46.0 We 4.8 3.8 25.4 7.1 11.1 10.1 0.90 4.9 34.9 49.4 Th 6.4 2.8 37.9 4.8 17.8 6.3 1.17 8.0 38.2 50.3 Fr(OD) 65.8 2.8 31.6 3.5 MN 18.1 MN 7.6 MN 4 proj OD 181 OD 112 OD 44 proj OW 628 OW 386 OW 151 proj Gross 1245 Gross 802 Gross 316 proj OD/PS 2.75 OD/PS 3.5 OD/PS OW/MN 34.70 OW/MN 50.8 OW/MN OW/OD 3.47 OW/OD 3.45 OW/OD Tot/OD 6.88 Tot/OD 7.16 Tot/OD Tot/OW 1.98 Tot/OW 2.08 Tot/OW 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...