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Weekend Actuals (Page 62): Suicide Squad 20.9M | Sausage Party 15.5M | War Dogs 14.7M | Kubo 12.6M | Pete's Dragon 11.3M | Ben Hur 11.2M

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1 minute ago, a2knet said:

 

yeah that makes sense. nice strategy by warner if they aligned the dvd/bray release on purpose with ss.

Now all I need is for them to move JL to august and put WW in May or the end of 

April.

JL needs a summer release if not its gonna have Legs similar to BVS.

They really need to change before it's too late.

Right now the two biggest flims in may are Gotg2 and Pirates 5. They can put WW in between the two.

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Deadline failed to take into account several factors such as promotional partners adding something like 150m or so for Man of Steel. All of this conjecturing is really useless though. DCEU fans and detractors can come up with all these numbers from different sources to prove if fans like or dislike the franchise. That's a lot of fact gathering and number crunching when really the big-picture proof is when you see the studio at second place in market share, due to their super-hero franchise, with plans for multiple follow-up movies, and a consistent ~300m DOM earnings per movie. What fans want to see are more movies, and better movies. The argument with all these numbers won't change the fact that more movies are coming because the alternative for WB are movies that make less than half. As for quality, both praise and criticism, strong ability to make money or just the opposite, either way can lead to adjustments or lack-of adjustments leading to the next movie either being better or worse: iow...all the bitching and number-crunching in the world probably has little effect in whether a sequel is going to be better or worse.

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8 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Now all I need is for them to move JL to august and put WW in May or the end of 

April.

JL needs a summer release if not its gonna have Legs similar to BVS.

They really need to change before it's too late.

Right now the two biggest flims in may are Gotg2 and Pirates 5. They can put WW in between the two.

 

I think they're targeting Thanksgiving weekend for early legs and Christmas Break for late legs.  Btw, percentages may change from day to day, but basically the DCEU seems to make 160-170m after opening weekend, even when so many factors are different for the known 3 release dates.

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15 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Looking at Lights Out & Ghostbusters (40%+ Sun drops) makes me suspicious about Suicide Squad and Sausage Party's Sunday drops.

 

 

 

They were probably doubled up with Sausage Party & Suicide Squad in drive ins.  I've noticed the biggest bump for those happens on Fri and Sat with larger Sun drops.

 

 

 

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TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count /Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week #
1 1 Suicide Squad WB $20,855,401 -52.1% 3,924 -331   $5,315    $262,428,736 $175 3
2 2 Sausage Party Sony $15,485,577 -54.8% 3,103 - $4,991 $65,486,596 $19 2
3 N War Dogs WB $14,685,305 - 3,258 - $4,507 $14,685,305 - 1
4 N Kubo and the Two Strings Focus $12,608,372 - 3,260 - $3,868 $12,608,372 $60 1
5 3 Pete's Dragon BV $11,349,938 -47.2% 3,702 - $3,066 $42,911,207 $65 2
6 N Ben-Hur (2016) Par. $11,203,815 - 3,084 - $3,633 $11,203,815 $100 1
7 4 Jason Bourne Uni. $8,016,895 -42.1% 2,887 -641 $2,777 $140,920,180 $120 4
8 5 Bad Moms STX $7,946,885 -30.1% 2,811 -377 $2,827 $85,679,313 $20 4
9 6 The Secret Life of Pets Uni. $5,880,500 -35.1% 2,404 -554 $2,446 $346,832,530 $75 7
10 8 Florence Foster Jenkins Par. $4,384,511 -33.6% 1,528 - $2,869 $14,490,254 - 2
11 7 Star Trek Beyond Par. $3,946,356 -42.7% 1,966 -611 $2,007 $146,877,726 $185 5
12 19 Hell or High Water LGF $2,692,811 +333.4% 472 +440 $5,705 $3,570,498 - 2
13 10 Lights Out WB (NL) $1,601,441 -50.2% 942 -710 $1,700 $64,221,817 $4.9 5
14 9 Nine Lives (2016) EC $1,402,556 -60.2% 1,364 -900 $1,028 $17,056,581 - 3
15 11 Nerve LGF $1,191,949 -54.8% 859 -918 $1,388 $35,795,014 - 4
16 12 Ghostbusters (2016) Sony $1,072,638 -52.8% 788 -649 $1,361 $123,933,072 $144 6
17 14 Finding Dory BV $907,012 -30.9% 450 -181 $2,016 $478,436,176 - 10
18 13 Ice Age: Collision Course Fox $905,479 -55.9% 782 -766 $1,158 $60,833,769 $105 5
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7th Weekend, SLOP vs IO

 

7 $5,880,500
8-21-16 / 9
2,404 / $2,446
-35.1%
$346,832,530
$4,511,004
8-2-15 / 9
1,904 / $2,369
-39.2%
$329,587,896

 

IO added 27M more after a 4.5M 7th weekend.

SLOP is 21.2M away from DESPICABLE ME 2 after a 5.9M 7th weekend.

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37 minutes ago, UrosepsisFace said:

 

I think they're targeting Thanksgiving weekend for early legs and Christmas Break for late legs.  Btw, percentages may change from day to day, but basically the DCEU seems to make 160-170m after opening weekend, even when so many factors are different for the known 3 release dates.

I get they want those holiday legs which will work for Thanksgiving but Ep.8 is gonna have December on lock.

Plus you really only have one week of kids out then another 4 weeks with them in school by then JL will have lost so many screens late legs will not exist.

Marvel has May locked up until 2021.Dc really needs to get August for all its big flims.

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6 minutes ago, a2knet said:

 

:jeb!:680+ will happen WW.

I Personally think 700ww is still on the table.That will be decided with this week's ww take.By Sunday we will know exactly where SS will end up both domestically and foreign.

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These movies will end up ahead of BEN-HUR dom most likely

52 Mother's Day ORF $32,492,859 3,291 $8,369,184 3,035 4/29 6/16
53 Gods of Egypt LG/S $31,153,464   3,117   $14,123,903   3,117   2/26   5/12
54 Hail, Caesar! Uni. $30,080,225 2,248 $11,355,225 2,232 2/5 3/24
55 Zoolander 2 Par. $28,848,693 3,418 $13,841,146 3,394 2/12 3/31
56 The Finest Hours BV $27,569,558 3,143 $10,288,932 3,143 1/29 4/7
57 The Forest Focus  $26,594,261 2,509 $12,741,176 2,451 1/8 3/17
58 The Witch A24 $25,138,705 2,204 $8,800,230 2,046 2/19 5/26
                 

 

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1 minute ago, a2knet said:

7th Weekend, SLOP vs IO

 

7 $5,880,500
8-21-16 / 9
2,404 / $2,446
-35.1%
$346,832,530
$4,511,004
8-2-15 / 9
1,904 / $2,369
-39.2%
$329,587,896

 

IO added 27M more after a 4.5M 7th weekend.

SLOP is 21.2M away from DESPICABLE ME 2 after a 5.9M 7th weekend.

 

IO had 19 more summer days

 

It's more comparable to DM2 which did $22m more after it's lower 7th w/e (and some crazy late legs)

 

Aug 16–18   11  $3,908,735   -33.9%  1,818 -577  $2,150   $346,114,855 7

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=despicableme2.htm

 

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55 minutes ago, UrosepsisFace said:

That's a lot of fact gathering and number crunching when really the big-picture proof is when you see the studio at second place in market share, due to their super-hero franchise, with plans for multiple follow-up movies, and a consistent ~300m DOM earnings per movie. What fans want to see are more movies, and better movies. The argument with all these numbers won't change the fact that more movies are coming because the alternative for WB are movies that make less than half.

The combined domestic takes for BvS and SS alone are more than the entire annual domestic takes for the #5 Paramount, #6 Sony/Columbia, #7 Lionsgate, etc. studios thus far. The DC movies will be fine. Like anything, they'll be tweaked with until they get into their groove and are able to firmly plant a flag at a good place for themselves in the market. Adjustments have seemingly already been made behind the scenes just prior to the release of SS, since it looks like DC Films has become its own branch under John Berg and Geoff Johns. We'll see how WW turns out, as that will be the first movie produced under the new structure and they have a good 10-month period to work on the film prior to release.

 

It's nice to see SS stabilizing. I'm hoping that means that word-of-mouth is better than initially expected and people are finally beginning to understand that WB/DC is going for something different than the standard capeflick faire of the past few years. Big picture, what I do find fascinating is that the numbers for MoS, BvS and SS are pretty similar - ~+$120mil opening, ~$300mil domestic, ~mid-$700mil worldwide. That seems to indicate that the DC movies do have a considerable audience and one that will watch a "DC movie" because it's a "DC movie" and not based on character associations. This is a pretty interesting contrast to the Marvel movies, which have a lot of variance based on lead character.

 

This is the kind of trend that makes me wonder how the capeflicks really will be doing next year. There were quite a few who were really bullish on the potential for Age of Ultron and Civil War to hit Avengers-like numbers and beyond (+$200mil opening, $1.4bil worldwide, etc.) but that doesn't seem to be the case. At thirteen movies in, the MCU seems to have plateaued with their fanbase and aren't really adding any more. Barring a breakout, I think Dr. Strange looks like it'll hit the same sort of numbers Ant-Man did. It's the exact phenomena observable with the X-Men movies, who have seemingly retained a core audience from the first X-Men movie and haven't added much, leading to similar numbers.

 

With DC as a newer franchise, I'll be curious to see how big the growth is. With the core audience seemingly already in place, I'm almost certain WW will hit higher than many here are expecting and get in right around the "DC range" of ~+$120mil opening, ~$300mil domestic, ~mid-$700mil worldwide, which will be another win on a rumored ~$175mil budget. I think the Fast and the Furious franchise is an interesting comparison for it, since the initial movies for it were pretty hurt critically but it had a solid following who supported it strongly and over time people started to "get" the franchise and it started seeing really sizable growth. Like with Avengers, DC just needs that one movie that triggers the explosion.

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I used to enjoy reading this thread about peoples opinion on the box office every weekend but now it's just full of fans just trying to tell us how successful their dc movies are.

People can we stop with the dvd sales stats, ongoing conversation about the film reaching 300 million DOM and the never-ending talk about how WB are so happy, you swear you all worked for them.

You can have input but please stop it. The films made money and only WB knows if it's the success they wanted. 

Let's vary the conversation and move on from DC movies. Discuss them in their own individual forums.

 

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