Barnack Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, slambros said: People are going to call the academy racist if Mudbound is completely shut out, because someone on the Netflix staff is bound to be angry enough to say something on Twitter Did any of this happened with Beasts of no Nation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Mudbound is not the next Moonlight, no matter what stink Netflix is trying to raise. It's that simple. Do a better job next time, Netflix. Edited October 4, 2017 by Valonqar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I don't know who's dumber, Netflix for dumping its movies with no promotion and not following Amazon's strategy, or the Academy for getting so stuck in the past. ("In the opinion of one prominent Oscar member, Netflix could represent “a cheapening of the Oscar.” - oh get the fuck outta here.) Two wrong sides both putting their foot down, oof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said: I don't know who's dumber, Netflix for dumping its movies with no promotion and not following Amazon's strategy, or the Academy for getting so stuck in the past. ("In the opinion of one prominent Oscar member, Netflix could represent “a cheapening of the Oscar.” - oh get the fuck outta here.) Two wrong sides both putting their foot down, oof. I feel like they're "so stuck in the past" because every other month we seem to get some sort of thinkpiece about how the movie theater is dead and people are staying at home for entertainment. Thus they probably think "how dare this streaming service come along and try to further diminish the value of our hallowed territory!" But yeah, Netflix's strategy is doing them no favors either. I think unless they adopt an approach similar to Amazon's, they're never going to break through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said: Netflix for dumping its movies with no promotion and not following Amazon's strategy, I am a bit ambivalent about that, I like in a way if Netflix was even more committed to is strategy (If I am hearing about something that Netflix has I can watch it, no teaser about a future release, no theatrical windows, etc....), don't bother me with something if I cannot watch it and do not start to not make every episode available right away either. That will cost them theater not wanting to play a movie that is available on Netflix, but I'm not sure that make it a dump business model/dump brand, not following the previous model made up/artificial complication on the audience is at the very base of Netflix business model and success. And it is fully normal for theater chain (and thus the academy/major portion of the industry that know what happen to the product value when your hurt that windows, for everything including the post-theater window), I am not sure anyone involved here is particularly dump, the Academy Award is for promoting theatrical product in spirit and written in is rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 On 10/3/2017 at 10:27 AM, CoolEric258 said: Entertainment Studios (the 47 Meters Down guys) have picked up Hostiles, and will have the movie release limited in December, then wide in January. Well...I definitely didn't see that coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Barnack said: Did any of this happened with Beasts of no Nation ? Idris Elba's miss certainly contributes to the Oscars so white fiasco, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, slambros said: Idris Elba's miss certainly contributes to the Oscars so white fiasco, unfortunately. I remember some of that (even too in is most pointed out Netflix being the factor, not race), I was talking about Netflix getting involved in the conversation part ? I do not remember them (even at the employee level) talking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Barnack said: I remember some of that (even too in is most pointed out Netflix being the factor, not race), I was talking about Netflix getting involved in the conversation part ? I do not remember them (even at the employee level) talking about it. I'm apprehensive on letting Netflix have too much of a stake in the industry. Movies feel like they are missing something (imo) if they don't get the big theatrical release they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, slambros said: Movies feel like they are missing something (imo) if they don't get the big theatrical release they deserve. They seem to do to many people (at least for people that go see movies in theater from time to time), nothing rational here, but not having the buzz and all the coverage of the theatrical release, having to wait for the movie to finally get release on dvd, etc.. do kind remove to the experience, even if it watching the movie at home. All the artificial way the industry give more value to a movie simply for being new vs an old one really work on me and most of it is removed by a Netflix only release, watching War Machine felt like watching a 2013 release you just heard of for the first time, not like a new movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdMan Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just watched BR2049 , makes MMFR look easy 5 or 6 tech nominations guaranteed , also director and picture most likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 17 hours ago, BirdMan said: Just watched BR2049 , makes MMFR look easy 5 or 6 tech nominations guaranteed , also director and picture most likely MMFR as in Mad Max: Fury Road? That's a hard feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdMan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 watch it and judge , you can't find even one minute that is not a visual achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I don't see how MMFR was any easier to achieve. In fact I'm sure it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said: I don't see how MMFR was any easier to achieve. In fact I'm sure it wasn't. I also thought as MMFR was one of the hardest project of recent time, thousand of people in the deserts, months in the deserts, making/bringing a small armada of vehicles, trying to develop a 3D camera that would both support the desert action movie condition and be small enough to enter by cars windows and failing at doing it, projects than went on for decades, 470 hours of footage to edits and so on, not seen Blade Runner yet but it would be really hard to make that look easy imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Barnack said: I also thought as MMFR was one of the hardest project of recent time, thousand of people in the deserts, months in the deserts, making/bringing a small armada of vehicles, trying to develop a 3D camera that would both support the desert action movie condition and be small enough to enter by cars windows and failing at doing it, projects than went on for decades, 470 hours of footage to edits and so on, not seen Blade Runner yet but it would be really hard to make that look easy imo. Yeah there's a reason they shot for six months and spent, what, two years in post-production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdMan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Barnack said: I also thought as MMFR was one of the hardest project of recent time, thousand of people in the deserts, months in the deserts, making/bringing a small armada of vehicles, trying to develop a 3D camera that would both support the desert action movie condition and be small enough to enter by cars windows and failing at doing it, projects than went on for decades, 470 hours of footage to edits and so on, not seen Blade Runner yet but it would be really hard to make that look easy imo. Visually people , visually there aren't many people in BR2049 but the visuals , productions design and cinematography are otherworldly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I think it's safe to say Netflix botched Mudbound and it's bound to get shut out now. BP 1. The Shape of Water 2. Dunkirk 3. Call Me By Your Name 4. The Post 5. Get Out 6. Three Billboards Outside Ebbings, Missouri 7. The Florida Project 8. Lady Bird 9. The Big Sick 10. Blade Runner 2049 11. Darkest Hour 12. Molly's Game 13. The Disaster Artist 14. Logan 15. Wonder Woman 16. Stronger 17. Hostiles 18. Killing of the Sacred Deer 19. War for the Planet of the Apes 20. Star Wars: The Last Jedi Edited October 7, 2017 by The Pumpkin Spice Panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 2. The Shape of Water 3. Dunkirk 4. The Post 5. Call Me by Your Name 6. Darkest Hour (these 6 might as well be locked providing The Post doesn't suck) 7. Blade Runner 2049 8. The Big Sick 9. Get Out 10. Molly's Game 11. The Disaster Artist 12. Lady Bird 13. The Florida Project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I honestly think that the difference in Three Billboards, Dunkirk, Shape of Water, and the Post if it is about as good as expectations is pretty much negligible - and I wouldn't be stunned at all if Call Me By Your Name or Darkest Hour make (different) runs for the top prize, too. This is a year of shocking parity in the BP race, provided that Post/Phantom Thread aren't hugely better than expectations. I agree with Han's list completely but I would put one of Florida Project or Lady Bird in there over one of the BR/Big Sick/Get Out combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
