What a WONDERful Weekend | WW down only 16% on Sunday. 103M weekend. pg 226

[Iron Raf]

6 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

IW will more likely depend on exchange rates.  If AOU had the same O/S exchange rates as Avengers it would have made more than it WW.  CW did more than Avengers O/S with the same exchange rates.

 

Where can I see all this information such as how much CW would have made in 2012, etc ?

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, mredman said:

JL has every chance to get to that. BvS was dark and it was only 170 million away from it. JL will be a TRUE team up movie and more a fun blockbuster movie.

I'd say JL has a 75% chance to hit $1B, however it depends on how big Thor 3 will be ($700M or $850M WW) and how reviews are for this. Star Wars 8, Jumanji and a shit ton of other Christmas movies will hurt its legs regardless.

Edited June 2, 2017 by YourMother

[mredman]

4 minutes ago, YourMother said:

While I still think $1B should happen for JL, remember some of the novelty might be gone. Wonder Woman will help a lot though. Thinking $145M/$370M/$1B

exactly it will also be lighthearted and a true team up movie. BvS was dark and even Superman freakin died that will kill all repeat views. BvS was only 130 million away

[a2k]

In the future I can see a 1b DCUE film if:

- GOTHAM SIRENS is an A film and does 600+ ww

- BATGIRL is an A film and does 725+ ww

- BATMAN is an A film and does 850+ ww

- SS2 or some other filmredeems the Joker and is at least a B film OR we have another villain who is teased/launched and has great hype.

- Exchange rates gods help.

- BATMAN2 is an A film and features Batgirl, Gotham Sirens, Joker/Mystery Villain....it could do 1b.

Edited June 2, 2017 by a2knet

[excel1]

2 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Not really ,we have to compare these films to the modern day superhero movie and not the films when there was basically nothing else to watch at the movies.

Mos,BVS and JL are a trilogy  so the second film in the series making 205mil more than the previous film is a damn good increase.

 

 

Oh, that is nonsense for a dozen reasons.

 

They're not close to their potential. TDK was. That's it. 

[Alli]

2 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

 

 

 

I will not rule out Nolan and Bale returning to Batman under the right circumstances (i.e. Dunkirk and Justice League both flop). If that were to happen within the next 2 to 3 years...the potential is there. Because that series is a commodity. It would be fresh in the sense that it was totally unexpected. 

 

That is the only case I can envision where we have another $200+/600+ sh film.

stop hoping dunkirk will flop. nolan is not coming back to batman. that ship has sailed

[mredman]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

That number seems fine for Wonder Woman? The movie had to deal with the bad taste that Batman v Superman (a sub-2 multiplier, yeesh) and Suicide Squad left in the mouths of many. This should be less backloaded since buzz throughout the weekend will unquestionably be more positive than it was for either of those movies.

 

That projected Pirates fall, Jesus. Will it even reach $150M total at this rate?

i still to this day think superman being killed was the reason for sub 2 multipler. No kids want to watch that many times in the theater. BvS was dark

[Mockingjay Raphael]

Reviews are clearly hurting Wonder Woman, they're scaring away the fanbase. 

[That One Girl]

DCEU has the next few years to redeem itself.  We'll see how it works.  Justice League is absolutely crucial for this.  It needs to be great.

[Webslinger]

Cool to see that Wonder Woman is kicking ass.

[redfirebird2008]

2 minutes ago, Alli said:

stop hoping dunkirk will flop. nolan is not coming back to batman. that ship has sailed

 

Even if it does flop, it's not going to all of a sudden force Nolan to beg for jobs. Zack Snyder, Ridley Scott, and plenty of other directors put out numerous flops and still get a ton of work. Nolan is going to do whatever the hell he wants.

[Hatebox]

Just got clickbaited by an article that said this did 'record-breaking preview numbers'.

 

Turns out it was record-breaking by a female director. Thanks, internet.

[WrathOfHan]

*sees the JL will increase from BVS stuff has started*

 

Edited June 2, 2017 by WrathOfHan

[a2k]

WONDR back on 94% (218/233) critics and 93% audience (with 4.5/5).

[mredman]

2 minutes ago, a2knet said:

In the future I can see a 1b DCUE film if:

- GOTHAM SIRENS is an A film and does 600+ ww

- BATGIRL is an A film and does 700+ ww

- BATMAN is an A film and does 800+ ww

- SS2 or some other filmredeems the Joker and is at least a B film OR we have another villain who is teased/launched and has great hype.

- Exchange rates gods help.

- BATMAN2 is an A film and features Batgirl, Gotham Sirens, Joker/Mystery Villain....it could do 1b.

I think you are seriously underrestimating JL. The trailer is LOVED by many and it will be WAY MORE lighthearted. BvS was dark. JL will not be so dark and it will be a TRUE TEAM up movie. Are you not a fan of DCEU ? is this why you dout it ?

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Iron Raf said:

 

Where can I see all this information such as how much CW would have made in 2012, etc ?

It's in the International section. 

 

Adjusting Exchange Rates

 

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/18043-adjusting-exchange-rates-first-post-updated-with-jasons-new-list/

 

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/18043-adjusting-exchange-rates-first-post-updated-with-jasons-new-list/?page=7#comment-2644422

 

Deadline also reported this when it was doing it O/S updates for CW last year.

[YM!]

4 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

TDK, Avengers, and SM1 are the top 3 domestic ticket sellers. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely. 

 

Marvel has saturated their brand and poorly done their only previously A list hero (Spidey) while overusing their only new A list hero (Iron Man). At this point, Marvel movies are much closer to a TV series in season 8 or 9. There is a huge floor of die hard fans, but the ratings are always a bit down from it's season 3 or 4 peak. I doubt even Infinity Wars 2 or whatever they announce as Downey's last movie comes close 2012 size. It also does not help that the movies have lead nowhere and played serious moviegoers for suckers, i.e. people "die" and then return...Tony had drama with Pepper, who just disappears, etc.

 

I do, firmly, believe that audience members inherently like to be challenged while viewing a film. They like to have to think about it a little bit. They like feeling as if they have learned something by the time the film is over. Marvel obviously makes no attempt at this and hasn't for years, and it has cost them that portion of moviegoers.

 

DC...MAN OF STEEL was a chance to make Superman huge again, and it was mixed. BvS and SS's poor quality left hundreds of millions of dollars on the table both in 2016 and for future installments.

 

I will not rule out Nolan and Bale returning to Batman under the right circumstances (i.e. Dunkirk and Justice League both flop). If that were to happen within the next 2 to 3 years...the potential is there. Because that series is a commodity. It would be fresh in the sense that it was totally unexpected. 

 

That is the only case I can envision where we have another $200+/600+ sh film.

Despite what you say about the MCU many people (the GA) still love it and for the most part make decent to excellent superhero movies. I can see IW hitting $200M OW but have a total around $450M domestic. However I think most if not all teamup superhero movies will get more frontloaded ($150M+ OW/<2.4x) while the good to excellent solo movies take off. I don't think Nolan will come back to Batman though.

[excel1]

3 minutes ago, Alli said:

stop hoping dunkirk will flop. nolan is not coming back to batman. that ship has sailed

I am pumped for Dunkirk.

 

I doubt the Batfleck movie happens if Justice League is less than popular. Affleck is old and aged, the role cost him his marriage, and it seems arguable as to whether he even wants to be involved anymore.

 

If you don't think WB will try to lure one more Bat film out of Nolan before the series is completely considered "done", you're crazy. TDK is still the most popular and influential film of the millennial generation. Nothing before or after has left such a pop culture footprint.

 

It's easy to see how they events could line up to make it a possibility.

[YM!]

4 minutes ago, mredman said:

i still to this day think superman being killed was the reason for sub 2 multipler. No kids want to watch that many times in the theater. BvS was dark

BVS was also not to good of a movie. Superhero movies kill off main characters all the time nowadays.

[franfar]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

*sees the JL will increase from BVS stuff has started*

 

I said it'll decrease