The Panda Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 We also may be underrating Mary, Queen of Scots. Currently has a 95% on RT. Still don’t know about a BP nod, but Saorise or Theron could make a push (the women categories are just pretty competitive this year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, PANDA said: We also may be underrating Mary, Queen of Scots. Currently has a 95% on RT. Still don’t know about a BP nod, but Saorise or Theron could make a push (the women categories are just pretty competitive this year) On 12/31/2017 at 8:49 PM, CoolioD1 said: and also where the hell are you guys getting that charlize theron is even IN the queen of scots movie? theron still isn't in that movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said: theron still isn't in that movie. Lol oops Robbie, all white people are the same Edited November 26, 2018 by PANDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, PANDA said: Lol oops Robbie, all white people are the same I disagree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Slambros said: I disagree. That’s true, I forgot to mention while they may all have the same shade of skin tone, they have varying shades of racism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 btw Annapurna is sending out screeners next week, so it's going to be an extremely tight timeframe for Vice and Beale Street with SAG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PANDA said: That’s true, I forgot to mention while they may all have the same shade of skin tone, they have varying shades of racism You could say that's true for everyone, though. Everybody at least has implicit stereotypes of other people, especially based on their skin colors. For example, the family member, who was a tour guide of sorts when we were in New York City, informed us that oriental restaurants, such as the excellent Schezuan-Chinese place Han Dynasty that I recommend to everyone, are known to stereotype their customers; when the customer orders a spicy dish, how spicy the dish will be can vary from customer to customer based on their race. Of course, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, and a lot of potential conflicts are possibly detered because of it. I do understand that you're probably joking around and that I'm sort of a fool for expanding on my viewpoint in the Best Picture thread in response to what is very likely to be a joke, and whether or not it's a joke, I do apologize for the rant. That being said, I am looking forward to seeing a diverse set of Oscar nominees in many categories, especially in the directing, writing, and acting categories--I don't know about you, but I'm still holding out hope for John David Washington. Edited November 26, 2018 by Slambros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLF Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) Dang there’s no room for Oscar movie success with tent poles not taking a break anymore. A Star Is Born is the only Oscar worthy(not in my opinion, but others) movie the past 3 months to do extremely well. It’s been flop, after flop, after flop. Lol first man, the hate u give(not sure if this was ever in contention), green book, and widows. And the December releases like Beale street, queen of scots, and the favourite all have such high competition idk if any could break out. Edited November 26, 2018 by YLF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 a star is born is just so far in front to me. i'm probably jinxing it but i don't even know what the alternate would be at this point, maybe roma but i still think the netflix thing has an effect so probably the favourite i guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) After seeing Widows, I feel good about not having Davis in my predictions. Good performance, but I can't see her getting a lot of high placements with how crowded the category is. Edited November 26, 2018 by WrathOfHan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 this is the latest it's taken them to announce a host in a good while. even that year eddie murphy got fired and billy crystal jumped in that was all settled by now. they're probably having a hard time finding someone willing. maybe default to kimmel again which tbh would help keep the ratings low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said: this is the latest it's taken them to announce a host in a good while. even that year eddie murphy got fired and billy crystal jumped in that was all settled by now. they're probably having a hard time finding someone willing. maybe default to kimmel again which tbh would help keep the ratings low. It feels like it’s been that way for a while, especially when the only time anyone seems to notice the host these days is when they bomb (see: Franco/Hathaway, NPH). Sorta become that gig no one wants. A part of me hopes that they will just go without a host one of these days (which, considering how bloated the ceremony has become in recent years, wouldn’t be a bad thing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, CoolioD1 said: a star is born is just so far in front to me. i'm probably jinxing it but i don't even know what the alternate would be at this point, maybe roma but i still think the netflix thing has an effect so probably the favourite i guess. Black Panther and Mary Poppins Returns The pressure to go populist is real Edited November 27, 2018 by PANDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PANDA said: Black Panther and Mary Poppins Returns The pressure to go populist is real a star is born is populist enough. if it made zero more dollars it'd be the highest grossing best picture since return of the king fifteen years ago and that's still true with inflation. it's basically the one movie this year that's a big hit and feels like an "oscar movie". can't see panther or poppins getting directing or screenplay nominations. i think they'll be nominated but not top 5. Edited November 27, 2018 by CoolioD1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, CoolioD1 said: a star is born is populist enough. if it made zero more dollars it'd be the highest grossing best picture since return of the king fifteen years ago and that's still true with inflation. it's basically the one movie this year that's a big hit and feels like an "oscar movie". can't see panther or poppins getting directing or screenplay nominations. i think they'll be nominated but not top 5. I think it’s more about the perception of a movie being populist than whether or not it was a financial hit. Id bet a few of the bigger heads in charge of some of the Oscar changes want a Black Panther win. In their eyes it’d bury the “old and out of touch” controversy and further bury the OscarsSoWhite controversy (if it wasn’t already buried). Realistically, A Star is Born is the front runner right now. That’s also why I’m thinking it’s the most in danger out of the contenders to underperform. The arguments for it are eerily similar to La La Land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM! Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Speaking of populist movies, the Gotham Awards announced their winners! Best Feature“The Favourite” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)“First Reformed” (A24)“If Beale Street Could Talk” (Annapurna Pictures)“Madeline’s Madeline” (Oscilloscope Laboratories)“The Rider” (Sony Pictures Classics) — WINNER Best Actor Adam Driver in “BlacKkKlansman” (Focus Features) Ben Foster in “Leave No Trace” (Bleecker Street) Richard E. Grant in “Can You Ever Forgive Me?” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)Ethan Hawke in “First Reformed” (A24) — WINNER Lakeith Stanfield in “Sorry to Bother You” (Annapurna Pictures) Best Actress Glenn Close in “The Wife” (Sony Pictures Classics)Toni Collette in “Hereditary” (A24) — WINNER Kathryn Hahn in “Private Life” (Netflix) Regina Hall in “Support the Girls” (Magnolia Pictures) Michelle Pfeiffer in “Where is Kyra?” (Paladin and Great Point Media) Breakthrough Actor Yalitza Aparicio in “Roma” (Netflix)Elsie Fisher in “Eighth Grade” (A24) — WINNER Helena Howard in “Madeline’s Madeline” (Oscilloscope Laboratories) KiKi Layne in “If Beale Street Could Talk” (Annapurna Pictures) Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie in “Leave No Trace” (Bleecker Street) Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award Ari Aster for “Hereditary” (A24)Bo Burnham for “Eighth Grade” (A24) — WINNER Jennifer Fox for “The Tale” (HBO) Crystal Moselle for “Skate Kitchen” (Magnolia Pictures) Boots Riley for “Sorry to Bother You” (Annapurna Pictures) Breakthrough Series – Long Form “Alias Grace,” (Netflix) “The End of the F***ing World,” (Netflix)“Killing Eve” (BBC America) — WINNER “Pose” (FX Networks) “Sharp Objects,” (HBO) Breakthrough Series – Short Form“195 Lewis” — WINNER “Cleaner Daze” “Distance” “The F Word” “She’s the Ticket” Best Screenplay “The Favourite,” Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara (Fox Searchlight Pictures)“First Reformed,” Paul Schrader (A24) – WINNER “Private Life,” Tamara Jenkins (Netflix) “Support the Girls,” Andrew Bujalski (Magnolia Pictures) “Thoroughbreds,” Cory Finley (Focus Features) Best Documentary “Bisbee ‘17” (4th Row Films)“Hale County This Morning, This Evening” (The Cinema Guild) — WINNER “Minding the Gap” (Hulu & Magnolia Pictures) “Shirkers” (Netflix) “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” (Focus Features) Jury Award for Ensemble Performance Rachel Weisz, Olivia Colman and Emma Stone in “The Favourite” — WINNER Audience Award “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” — WINNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 12 hours ago, PANDA said: Realistically, A Star is Born is the front runner right now. That’s also why I’m thinking it’s the most in danger out of the contenders to underperform. The arguments for it are eerily similar to La La Land. But it's not the same situation. Many people argued last year that despite almost all things pointing to a Shape of Water/3BB run for the win they will both lose to either Lady Bird or Get Out because LLL lost to Moonlight. A Star is Born has great reviews but not the over the top ones that LLL had and rubbed many people the wrong way. Also it doesn't fit the technical achievement that will sweep the techs anyway narrative that so many recent runner-ups had including LLL. Something might emerge that will beat it, no one knows shit about who's winning until the Guild awards anyway. But I don't see how Roma is gonna be the "Moonlight" to take it down. I don't see how a netflix movie from a Director already hugely rewarded just 5 years ago is gonna generate enough of a consesus to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) You People Love Da Fried Chicken won the NBR award for best picture https://variety.com/2018/film/awards/national-board-of-review-names-green-book-best-film-of-2018-1203035378/ Quote Best Film: “Green Book”Best Director: Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”Best Actor: Viggo Mortensen, “Green Book”Best Actress: Lady Gaga, “A Star Is Born”Best Supporting Actor: Sam Elliott, “A Star Is Born”Best Supporting Actress: Regina King, “If Beale Street Could Talk”Best Original Screenplay: Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins, “If Beale Street Could Talk”Best Animated Feature: “Incredibles 2”Breakthrough Performance: Thomasin McKenzie, “Leave No Trace”Best Directorial Debut: Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”Best Foreign Language Film: “Cold War”Best Documentary: “RBG”Best Ensemble: “Crazy Rich Asians”William K. Everson Film History Award: “The Other Side of the Wind” and “They’ll Love Me When I’m Dead”NBR Freedom of Expression Award: “22 July”NBR Freedom of Expression Award: “On Her Shoulders” Top Films (in alphabetical order)“The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”“Black Panther”“Can You Ever Forgive Me?”“Eighth Grade”“First Reformed”“If Beale Street Could Talk”“Mary Poppins Returns”“A Quiet Place”“Roma”“A Star Is Born” Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order)“Burning”“Custody”“The Guilty”“Happy as Lazzaro”“Shoplifters” Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order) “Crime + Punishment” “Free Solo” “Minding the Gap” “Three Identical Strangers” “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order) “The Death of Stalin” “Lean on Pete” “Leave No Trace” “Mid90s” “The Old Man & the Gun” “The Rider” “Searching” “Sorry to Bother You” “We the Animals” “You Were Never Really Here” Edited November 27, 2018 by CoolioD1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Full winners: Best Film: GREEN BOOK Best Director: Bradley Cooper, A STAR IS BORN Best Actor: Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK Best Actress: Lady Gaga, A STAR IS BORN Best Supporting Actor: Sam Elliott, A STAR IS BORN Best Supporting Actress: Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK Best Original Screenplay: Paul Schrader, FIRST REFORMED Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK Best Animated Feature: INCREDIBLES 2 Breakthrough Performance: Thomasin McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE Best Directorial Debut: Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE Best Foreign Language Film: COLD WAR Best Documentary: RBG Best Ensemble: CRAZY RICH ASIANS William K. Everson Film History Award: THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND and THEY’LL LOVE ME WHEN I’M DEAD NBR Freedom of Expression Award: 22 JULY NBR Freedom of Expression Award: ON HER SHOULDERS Top Films (in alphabetical order) The Ballad of Buster Scruggs Black Panther Can You Ever Forgive Me? Eighth Grade First Reformed If Beale Street Could Talk Mary Poppins Returns A Quiet Place Roma A Star Is Born Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order) Burning Custody The Guilty Happy as Lazzaro Shoplifters Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order) Crime + Punishment Free Solo Minding the Gap Three Identical Strangers Won’t You Be My Neighbor? Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order) The Death of Stalin Lean on Pete Leave No Trace Mid90s The Old Man & the Gun The Rider Searching Sorry to Bother You We the Animals You Were Never Really Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Plenty of snubs here. Vice, BlacKkKlansman, The Favourite, Widows. Also: Incredibles 2 for Animated Film and not Isle of Dogs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
