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1 hour ago, a2k said:

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2018/10/19 - $17,716 +1% 108 $164   $98,676,159 78
2018/10/20 - $26,899 +52% 108 $249   $98,703,058 79
2018/10/21 - $16,297 -39% 108 $151   $98,719,355 80
2018/10/22 - $6,024 -63% 108 $56   $98,725,379 81
2018/10/23 - $6,002 n/c 108 $56   $98,731,381 82
2018/10/24 - $5,103 -15% 108 $47   $98,736,484 83
2018/10/25 - $5,466 +7% 108 $51   $98,741,950 84
2018/10/26 - $26,000 +376% 148 $176   $98,767,950 85

 

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9 hours ago, Shawn said:

:lol:

 

You're welcome! Hopefully that came across more tongue-in-cheek than condescending. :D 

It did! Lol 

4 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Eh, that's a normal Friday jump with a 48 theater - a 37% theater expansion - probably into 2nd run theaters in it's 13th w/e. Next w/e it will have double features with Nutcracker w probably another theater expansion for those drive in w/e show times.

Lol, don’t be so gullible. The fudging and fiddling with numbers has begun already. It’s the Disney way. 

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1 minute ago, Krissykins said:

 

It did! Lol 

Lol, don’t be so gullible. The fudging and fiddling with numbers has begun already. It’s the Disney way. 

Speaking of coming across condescending....  

 

It's easy to figure out math, the jump pattern is consistent with other Thur to Friday PTA multiples accounting for the theater gains and drops during it's run and for films like it.

 

If you think it's just Disney that drags out the run of a movie you haven't been paying attention to B.O. very well.  13 weeks is nothing, especially for a family or kids film.  They play a long time even with low PTAs

 

Case in point

 

The LEGO Movie - 2014

Date
(click to view chart)
Rank Weekend
Gross
%
Change
Theaters Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week
#
Feb 7–9 1 $69,050,279 - 3,775 - $18,291 $69,050,279 1
Feb 14–16 1 $49,846,430 -27.8% 3,775 - $13,204 $130,149,360 2
Feb 14–17 1 $62,478,466 -9.5% 3,775 - $16,551 $142,781,396 2
Feb 21–23 1 $31,305,359 -37.2% 3,890 +115 $8,048 $183,015,455 3
Feb 28–Mar 2 3 $20,828,356 -33.5% 3,770 -120 $5,525 $209,138,440 4
Mar 7–9 4 $10,911,385 -47.6% 3,290 -480 $3,317 $224,877,997 5
Mar 14–16 6 $7,701,309 -29.4% 3,040 -250 $2,533 $236,928,237 6
Mar 21–23 9 $4,149,244 -46.1% 2,501 -539 $1,659 $243,385,918 7
Mar 28–30 11 $3,018,060 -27.3% 2,001 -500 $1,508 $248,216,780 8
Apr 4–6 13 $1,402,281 -53.5% 1,350 -651 $1,039 $250,608,584 9
Apr 11–13 15 $502,033 -64.2% 610 -740 $823 $251,560,804 10
Apr 18–20 17 $399,466 -20.4% 340 -270 $1,175 $252,259,056 11
Apr 25–27 20 $355,963 -10.9% 303 -37 $1,175 $252,798,441 12
May 2–4 23 $228,911 -35.7% 220 -83 $1,041 $253,106,875 13
May 9–11 18 $488,384 +113% 401 +181 $1,218 $253,666,490 14
May 16–18 16 $524,598 +7.4% 355 -46 $1,478 $254,342,250 15
May 23–25 20 $407,255 -22.4% 323 -32 $1,261 $254,921,743 16
May 23–26 20 $541,317 +3.2% 323 -32 $1,676 $255,055,805 16
May 30–Jun 1 20 $276,486 -32.1% 302 -21 $916 $255,436,997 17
Jun 6–8 18 $288,052 +4.2% 274 -28 $1,051 $255,878,392 18
Jun 13–15 24 $227,240 -21.1% 301 +27 $755 $256,330,271 19
Jun 20–22 27 $172,592 -24.0% 315 +14 $548 $256,696,317 20
Jun 27–29 28 $146,534 -15.1% 335 +20 $437 $257,000,260 21
Jul 4–6 40 $63,962 -56.4% 240 -95 $267 $257,186,165 22
Jul 11–13 36 $78,612 +22.9% 350 +110 $225 $257,335,781 23
Jul 18–20 42 $42,286 -46.2% 202 -148 $209 $257,484,827 24
Jul 25–27 49 $36,422 -13.9% 202 - $180 $257,582,914 25
Aug 1–3 74 $6,951 -80.9% 38 -164 $183 $257,716,507 26
Aug 8–10 83 $4,255 -38.8% 17 -21 $250 $257,731,107 27
Aug 15–17 84 $3,289 -22.7% 15 -2 $219 $257,743,820 28
Aug 22–24 100 $377 -88.5% 7 -8 $54 $257,749,647 29
Aug 29–31 85 $3,996 +960% 25 +18 $160 $257,754,698 30
Aug 29–Sep 1 73 $5,495 +1,358% 25 +18 $220 $257,756,197 30

 

 

 

 

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Thank you a lt @TalismanRing for pointing this out again. :wub:

 

It really really really annoys me when ppl constantly stating wrong details, throw around wrongly used terms,.... give a completly false impression of standard situations.

Like e.g. 'fudging' is not even the correct term for e.g. theater count extensions, or the other examples you gave.

It started as a (in my POV even then already: bad) joke of some a few years back, maybe newer members / silent readers... saw that as a given then, and it got in my POV out of hand  over the time, now it gets used wrongly as a given situation, also it furthers the general doubt mood so many seem to have for something that is normal day-to-day business without anything wrong about said day-to-day business.

 

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6 hours ago, filmlover said:

Imagine if they end up having to fudge Nutcracker past $100M too if it gets close enough to the mark (I have it opening with $24M next weekend). I hope Disney's creative accounts get a year-long vacation after this year.

Think bigger... imagine they have to fudge episode 9 :Venom:

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5 minutes ago, VENOM said:

Think bigger... imagine they have to fudge episode 9 :Venom:

If you're talking about fudging it to 100M, not on this Earth or the next one will that ever happen. It'll cross 100M on its 1st two days. Unless you're talking about fudging it to either 500M or 600M total.

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29 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

If you're talking about fudging it to 100M, not on this Earth or the next one will that ever happen. It'll cross 100M on its 1st two days. Unless you're talking about fudging it to either 500M or 600M total.

We are just talking about any fudging being a disaster but your confidence it will do just as good as Jedi is surprising. You must be counting on all those people who didn’t turn up for solo :Venom:  

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36 minutes ago, VENOM said:

We are just talking about any fudging being a disaster but your confidence it will do just as good as Jedi is surprising. You must be counting on all those people who didn’t turn up for solo :Venom:  

Nobody asked for Solo and that came out on Memorial Day; while this is an episodic movie in December. That's the difference. JJ will definitely bring people back on his name alone too.

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9 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Nobody asked for Solo and that came out on Memorial Day; while this is an episodic movie in December. That's the difference. JJ will definitely bring people back on his name alone too.

So Star Wars fans only watch movies that come out in December? Who knew! Yes Jar Jar should bring people back on his name alone 

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3 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Speaking of coming across condescending....  

 

It's easy to figure out math, the jump pattern is consistent with other Thur to Friday PTA multiples accounting for the theater gains and drops during it's run and for films like it.

 

If you think it's just Disney that drags out the run of a movie you haven't been paying attention to B.O. very well.  13 weeks is nothing, especially for a family or kids film.  They play a long time even with low PTAs

 

Case in point

 

The LEGO Movie - 2014

Date
(click to view chart)
Rank Weekend
Gross
%
Change
Theaters Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week
#
Feb 7–9 1 $69,050,279 - 3,775 - $18,291 $69,050,279 1
Feb 14–16 1 $49,846,430 -27.8% 3,775 - $13,204 $130,149,360 2
Feb 14–17 1 $62,478,466 -9.5% 3,775 - $16,551 $142,781,396 2
Feb 21–23 1 $31,305,359 -37.2% 3,890 +115 $8,048 $183,015,455 3
Feb 28–Mar 2 3 $20,828,356 -33.5% 3,770 -120 $5,525 $209,138,440 4
Mar 7–9 4 $10,911,385 -47.6% 3,290 -480 $3,317 $224,877,997 5
Mar 14–16 6 $7,701,309 -29.4% 3,040 -250 $2,533 $236,928,237 6
Mar 21–23 9 $4,149,244 -46.1% 2,501 -539 $1,659 $243,385,918 7
Mar 28–30 11 $3,018,060 -27.3% 2,001 -500 $1,508 $248,216,780 8
Apr 4–6 13 $1,402,281 -53.5% 1,350 -651 $1,039 $250,608,584 9
Apr 11–13 15 $502,033 -64.2% 610 -740 $823 $251,560,804 10
Apr 18–20 17 $399,466 -20.4% 340 -270 $1,175 $252,259,056 11
Apr 25–27 20 $355,963 -10.9% 303 -37 $1,175 $252,798,441 12
May 2–4 23 $228,911 -35.7% 220 -83 $1,041 $253,106,875 13
May 9–11 18 $488,384 +113% 401 +181 $1,218 $253,666,490 14
May 16–18 16 $524,598 +7.4% 355 -46 $1,478 $254,342,250 15
May 23–25 20 $407,255 -22.4% 323 -32 $1,261 $254,921,743 16
May 23–26 20 $541,317 +3.2% 323 -32 $1,676 $255,055,805 16
May 30–Jun 1 20 $276,486 -32.1% 302 -21 $916 $255,436,997 17
Jun 6–8 18 $288,052 +4.2% 274 -28 $1,051 $255,878,392 18
Jun 13–15 24 $227,240 -21.1% 301 +27 $755 $256,330,271 19
Jun 20–22 27 $172,592 -24.0% 315 +14 $548 $256,696,317 20
Jun 27–29 28 $146,534 -15.1% 335 +20 $437 $257,000,260 21
Jul 4–6 40 $63,962 -56.4% 240 -95 $267 $257,186,165 22
Jul 11–13 36 $78,612 +22.9% 350 +110 $225 $257,335,781 23
Jul 18–20 42 $42,286 -46.2% 202 -148 $209 $257,484,827 24
Jul 25–27 49 $36,422 -13.9% 202 - $180 $257,582,914 25
Aug 1–3 74 $6,951 -80.9% 38 -164 $183 $257,716,507 26
Aug 8–10 83 $4,255 -38.8% 17 -21 $250 $257,731,107 27
Aug 15–17 84 $3,289 -22.7% 15 -2 $219 $257,743,820 28
Aug 22–24 100 $377 -88.5% 7 -8 $54 $257,749,647 29
Aug 29–31 85 $3,996 +960% 25 +18 $160 $257,754,698 30
Aug 29–Sep 1 73 $5,495 +1,358% 25 +18 $220 $257,756,197 30

 

 

 

 

Case in point: A Wrinkle In Time? 

 

Maybe fudging was the wrong word.

 

Lets call it pushing. 

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37 minutes ago, VENOM said:

So Star Wars fans only watch movies that come out in December? Who knew! Yes Jar Jar should bring people back on his name alone 

Clearly, Solo proves that they do. But I mean, if you know so much about the fans, bother to explain how the fuck did Rogue One make over 500 million domestic? It wouldn't have done that in any other month of the year. And no, following up TFA doesn't count because RO would have still had much lesser legs than it actually had anywhere else in the calendar. Same applies for TLJ - it wouldn't have made 600 million outside of December.

 

And of course Jar Jar would bring people back on name alone, biggest draw in the SW universe.

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28 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Clearly, Solo proves that they do. But I mean, if you know so much about the fans, bother to explain how the fuck did Rogue One make over 500 million domestic? It wouldn't have done that in any other month of the year. And no, following up TFA doesn't count because RO would have still had much lesser legs than it actually had anywhere else in the calendar. Same applies for TLJ - it wouldn't have made 600 million outside of December.

 

And of course Jar Jar would bring people back on name alone, biggest draw in the SW universe.

There we were thinking people were just seeing it because it was a star war. You need to replace Kathleen Kennedy straight away then after that horrendous mistake having the wrong director and release date 

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36 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Bohemian Rhapsody is currently fifth on Pulse. 

Maybe it's because early morning:

 

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