charlie Jatinder Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, FlashMaster659 said: So what's the final tally being settled on for the 3 movies? 405, 390 & 290. Infinity War at 300 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 in 1997-1998, global box office revenue total was only about USD14.6b. Titanic did 1.8b+ in that year, that was 12.6% of the total revenue of the year. By comparison, LOTR3, 1.1b/20.2b = 5.5% Avatar, 2.8b/31.8b - 8.7% SW7, 2.07b/38.4b = 5.4% EG, 2.8b/41b(estimate) = 6.8% No films can come close to double digit percentage, let alone cross it with decent margin like Titanic, In Brazil and China, Titanic singlely contributed almost 25% of the box office generated in 1998. Even wolf warrior 2 can't have that impact like Titanic in china. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: in 1997-1998, global box office revenue total was only about USD14.6b. Titanic did 1.8b+ in that year, that was 12.6% of the total revenue of the year. By comparison, LOTR3, 1.1b/20.2b = 5.5% Avatar, 2.8b/31.8b - 8.7% SW7, 2.07b/38.4b = 5.4% EG, 2.8b/41b(estimate) = 6.8% No films can come close to double digit percentage, let alone cross it with decent margin like Titanic, In Brazil and China, Titanic singlely contributed almost 25% of the box office generated in 1998. Even wolf warrior 2 can't have that impact like Titanic in china. more blockbusters now. Also this is about Admissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, HeadShot said: more blockbusters now. Also this is about Admissions. In NA, looking at the size of the top grosser relative to their corresponding yearly revenue. I don't see how more blockbusters have hurt the size of the blockbusters post 2010s. the size of the top blockbuster remain stable over the course of past 30 years. In fact, even among 90s, Titanic is clearly an outlier. 2019 : Endgame - 858m / 11b = 7.7% 2018 : BP - 700m / 11.9b =5.9% 2017: TLJ - 620m /11b = 5.6% 2016: R1 - 532m/11.37b = 4.7% 2015: SW9 - 936m/11.1b = 8.4% 2013: HG:CF - 424m/10.9b = 3.9% 2012: A1 - 623m/10.8b = 5.8% 2011: HP7.2 - 381m/10.2b = 3.7% 2010: TS3 - 415m/10.57b = 3.9% 2009: Avatar - 760m/10.6b = 7.2% 2008 TDK - 533m/9.63b = 5.5% 2007: SM3 - 336m/9.66b = 3.5% 2006: POTC2 - 423m/9.2b =4.6% 2005 : SW3: ROTS - 380m/8.84b = 4.3% 2004: Shrek2 - 441m/ 9.38b = 4.7% 2003: LOTR3 - 377m/ 9.24b =4.1% 2002: SM1 - 402m/9.16b = 4,4% 2001: HP1 - 317m/8.4b - 3.8% 2000: Grinch - 260m/7.66b = 3.4% 1999: TPM - 431m/7.45b = 5.9% 1998 : SPR - 216m/ 6.95b = 3.1% 1997: Titanic - 600m/ 6.4b = 9.4% 1996: ID - 306m/ 5.91b = 5.2% 1995 : TS1 - 191m/ 5.5b = 3.5% 1994: FG - 330m/5.4b = 6.1% 1993: JP1 - 357m/5.15b = 6.9% 1992: Aladdin - 217m/4.87b = 4.4% 1991: T2 - 205m/4.8b = 4.3% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: In NA, looking at the size of the top grosser relative to their corresponding yearly revenue. I don't see how more blockbusters have hurt the size of the blockbusters post 2010s. the size of the top blockbuster remain stable over the course of past 30 years. In fact, even among 90s, Titanic is clearly an outlier. 2019 : Endgame - 858m / 11b = 7.7% 2018 : BP - 700m / 11.9b =5.9% 2017: TLJ - 620m /11b = 5.6% 2016: R1 - 532m/11.37b = 4.7% 2015: SW9 - 936m/11.1b = 8.4% 2013: HG:CF - 424m/10.9b = 3.9% 2012: A1 - 623m/10.8b = 5.8% 2011: HP7.2 - 381m/10.2b = 3.7% 2010: TS3 - 415m/10.57b = 3.9% 2009: Avatar - 760m/10.6b = 7.2% 2008 TDK - 533m/9.63b = 5.5% 2007: SM3 - 336m/9.66b = 3.5% 2006: POTC2 - 423m/9.2b =4.6% 2005 : SW3: ROTS - 380m/8.84b = 4.3% 2004: Shrek2 - 441m/ 9.38b = 4.7% 2003: LOTR3 - 377m/ 9.24b =4.1% 2002: SM1 - 402m/9.16b = 4,4% 2001: HP1 - 317m/8.4b - 3.8% 2000: Grinch - 260m/7.66b = 3.4% 1999: TPM - 431m/7.45b = 5.9% 1998 : SPR - 216m/ 6.95b = 3.1% 1997: Titanic - 600m/ 6.4b = 9.4% 1996: ID - 306m/ 5.91b = 5.2% 1995 : TS1 - 191m/ 5.5b = 3.5% 1994: FG - 330m/5.4b = 6.1% 1993: JP1 - 357m/5.15b = 6.9% 1992: Aladdin - 217m/4.87b = 4.4% 1991: T2 - 205m/4.8b = 4.3% More blockbusters equals to less impressive percentage of the total. Not hard to grasp. End Game was released in one of the most competitive years of all time. Put it in 2013 and I'm sure it would have looked different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said: http://lumiere.obs.coe.int/web/film_info/?id=8001&market=GR This number is definately false. All Greek sources have Titanic admissions between 1.850.000 to 2 mil. tickets before the 2012 re-release. Here's a boxoffice list from July 98 which has Titanic at 868.000 adm. only in the capital city while it is still in theatres Spoiler https://ibb.co/gy7yB2c And here's another newspaper article from June 99 that says it reached 2 mil. admissions in the entire country https://www.tovima.gr/2008/11/24/archive/o-polemos-twn-astronomikwn-eispraksewn/ What I guess happened is lumiere took the capital admissions for whole country admissions. I guess lumiere is a good source for more current movies but Box office reporting before the 00s was a bit haphazard, I wonder if there's errors in others countries also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 6 hours ago, HeadShot said: More blockbusters equals to less impressive percentage of the total. Not hard to grasp. End Game was released in one of the most competitive years of all time. Put it in 2013 and I'm sure it would have looked different. Your claim must be supported by data evidence. Yet, the data falsify your claim. If your claim is true, all the 90s blockbusters like JP, ID, TPM, or TLK should have easily hit double digit percentage or at least came near, but they got the same percentage like 2010s blockbusters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous5445 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) How are the tickets sold domestically even calculated without things like 3D/IMAX,etc? Is it using some insider info, or just some weird calculations I can't comprehend lol? Edited August 23, 2019 by infamous5445 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) This is the other movies,here is my count Avengers Infinity War NA:67m EU:40m East Asia:77m Southeast Asia:25m South Asia:14m Middle East:4m LA:60m Africa:1m Australia+New Zeland:4m Total:288.4m Star War:The Force Awaken NA:110m EU:61m East Asia:30m southeast Asia:6m south asia:2m Middle East:2.5m LA:20m Australia+New Zeland:8m Total:239.5m The Lion King(just I guess) NA:58m EU:55m East Asia:35m Southeast Asia:10m South Asia:12m Middle East:4m LA:55m Australia+New Zeland:5m Total:234m Edited August 23, 2019 by Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, titanic2187 said: Your claim must be supported by data evidence. Yet, the data falsify your claim. If your claim is true, all the 90s blockbusters like JP, ID, TPM, or TLK should have easily hit double digit percentage or at least came near, but they got the same percentage like 2010s blockbusters. Yawns, your claim isn't a fact either. Your posting percentages and acting like it means anything when there are so many other factors. It's as dumb as adjusting for inflation. As I said End Game would have had a much bigger percentage had it been release in a less competitive year this decade. This thread is about admissions aka. which movie was more popular and seen by more people. As you can see EG is the biggest original run of all time. So let's celebrate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, HeadShot said: Yawns, your claim isn't a fact either. Your posting percentages and acting like it means anything when there are so many other factors. It's as dumb as adjusting for inflation. As I said End Game would have had a much bigger percentage had it been release in a less competitive year this decade. This thread is about admissions aka. which movie was more popular and seen by more people. As you can see EG is the biggest original run of all time. So let's celebrate that. They are both popular at their era,I think is really hard to compare them. Titanic run on screen half an year at that time,EG only run in 3 month. But EG have advantage,too.Compare to 1998,more and more people born in this world,the population increase,and China market larger 50 times than 1998. EG 380m admission,Titanic 410m admission,the number can said they are both popular worldwide. Edited August 24, 2019 by Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Steven said: They are both popular at their era,I think is really hard to compare them. Titanic run on screen half an year at that time,EG only run in 3 month. But EG have advantage,too.Compare to 1998,more and more people born in this world,the population increase,and China market larger 50 times than 1998. EG 380m admission,Titanic 410m admission,the number can said they are both popular worldwide. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. This is why comparing grosses is extremely difficult. Admissions is the best way to determine how big a movie truly was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, HeadShot said: Both have their advantages and disadvantages. This is why comparing grosses is extremely difficult. Admissions is the best way to determine how big a movie truly was. Yes,Just my opinion. The most impressive run of all time 1.Titanic 2.EG 3,.Avatar 4.JP1 5.IW 6.JW 7.TLK STAR WAR THE FORCE AWAKEN global total gross 2.06B,but SW:TFA only popular in NA,EU,JAPAN,so I don't think SW:TFA can call the box office blockbuster worldwide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Charlie,I know why I am wrong in Titanic india number,Titanic release in india in 3 times,1998,1999,2012,I only count 1998 First+second run(1998-1999): 19.5m admission/60crore/(olive's number) And I found a local news at 1998,said Titanic was the first foreign film to make a splash in India. why "first"? so I wonder know Jurassic Park,Indenpence day performance in India,can you give me some number? Edited August 27, 2019 by Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Steven said: Charlie,I know why I am wrong in Titanic india number,Titanic release in india in 3 times,1998,1999,2012,I only count 1998 First+second run(1998-1999): 19.5m admission/60crore/(olive's number) And I found a local news at 1998,said Titanic was the first foreign film to make a splash in India. why "first"? so I wonder know Jurassic Park,Indenpence day performance in India,can you give me some number? Cause Romance movies were big thing in a india at that time. Highest grossing movie were Hum Apke hain kaun, Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge. Romantic movies were fad. Indepence Day was not big at all in India. Jurassic Park might have been successful but not that much i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Nero said: Cause Romance movies were big thing in a india at that time. Highest grossing movie were Hum Apke hain kaun, Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge. Romantic movies were fad. Indepence Day was not big at all in India. Jurassic Park might have been successful but not that much i guess so there are no Hollywood film succeed in india before Titanic??That's so crazy,what about 007?Did James Bond movie in 1960 popular in india? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 My most impressive runs of all time Titanic Avatar ($2.7b in 2009 adj to roughly $3.3 when adj for local currencies even after accounting for a weak dollar...good gracious!) TFA...($937m dom....wow!) EndGame (based on its incredible OW) MBFGW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) On 8/27/2019 at 10:40 PM, Nero said: Indepence Day was not big at all in India. Independence Day was Super Hit in India. On 8/27/2019 at 10:40 PM, Nero said: Jurassic Park might have been successful but not that much i guess Jurassic Park per Universal numbers was bigger than Darr, Baazigar in 1993. In 1994 it was only behind Hum Aapke Hain Kaun. BOI numbers are lower than Universal though. Edited December 17, 2019 by Jedi Jat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 8/22/2019 at 11:17 PM, titanic2187 said: In fact, even among 90s, Titanic is clearly an outlier Titanic is an outlier definitely but in this metric I think we should use 1998 as year of Titanic as it made 80% of its numbers there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 8/22/2019 at 10:21 PM, HeadShot said: Titanic did 1.8b+ in that year, that was 12.6% of the total revenue of the year. Titanic did $1.8B+ till 2001. It had release in Asian countries till that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...