BestPicturePlutoNash Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said: Tbf words like faux feminism and globalism pandering ,what do they mean in relation to the episode.? They kind come of pretentious because some users may not understand what your saying . MCU shows have been heavily criticized on this forum Tbh. Aren't the words you have used above in your criticism related to gender too so definitely some will attach gender to it. so it's up to you word out your criticism on the feminism angle in this show better . The world isn't in good shape if people don't understand what "pandering" means. And that also has been an actual criticism from professional writers! VARIETY: But between its obligations to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe, a far more limited budget than its film peers, and attempts to infuse Jen’s story with dated #girlboss energy, “She-Hulk” also represents an unsteady balancing act that needs more time than it likely has to settle into its own groove. Don't you think feminism in media, especially from the world's largest company, deserves to be more than shallow? The whole pilot just felt overly broad and packaged, dated to a fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said: Why are you guys so incapable of accepting any form of criticism on the content you like? any negative comment is reduced to "pretentious" or made into some gender thing If the Marvel logo was slapped on Leni Riefenstahl's Nazi propaganda, this thread would still be like "Hell yeah, girlboss! This was so fun!" I just want to know how "globalism pandering" makes any sense in this context. Especially the "globalism" part of that. Also, accusing people of being potential Nazi apologists because they don't share your distaste for a show is...something. Edited August 21, 2022 by Menor Reborn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnokesLegs Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I can see this is going to be a fun thread…think I’ll leave you guys to it and unsubscribe. Hope the people who aren’t keen on it see an improvement, and I hope the rest of you just enjoy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said: I just want to know how "globalism pandering" makes any sense in this context. Especially the "globalism" part of that. Also, accusing people of being potential Nazi apologists because they don't share your distaste for a show is...something. You slap a Marvel logo on anything and people will become very forgiving 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Quinn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Moderation @BestPicturePlutoNash your tirades and fighting against users because they like a show you don't isn't funny any more. Stop this right now, or you're seeing a threadban. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Eric the Lion said: Moderation @BestPicturePlutoNash your tirades and fighting against users because they like a show you don't isn't funny any more. Stop this right now, or you're seeing a threadban. I gave my opinion and Cap, a mod, replied mockingly "LOL. Boys". How is that appropriate? You and Cap both know that it isn't. I am done, but you have to understand the context and realize this isn't unprompted or a means to be funny. It was disrespectful of @Cap and I would like an apology if I'm being warned a threadban 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BestPicturePlutoNash Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Fox20 said: See what I mean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox20 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I think the funniest complain so far is that "She-hulk did everything better than Hulk yadayada", but when you actually see the episode, Banner was holding back the entire time, he is clearly stronger and the only reason that Jenifer controled her hulk form way faster it's as simple as she does not have an entirely different personality messing her around which it's something that has nothing to do with being a woman but because Hulk was created by Banner's trauma in the past. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said: I gave my opinion and Cap, a mod, replied mockingly "LOL. Boys". How is that appropriate? You and Cap both know that it isn't. I am done, but you have to understand the context and realize this isn't unprompted or a means to be funny. It was disrespectful of @Cap and I would like an apology if I'm being warned a threadban Bruh, this isn't that serious. There's a reason why I don't make serious long-winded rants about the MCU anymore. Not worth the time. I just make sarcastic jokes mocking these things at times these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) edit: saw mod post. Edited August 21, 2022 by Valonqar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orestes Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Fox20 said: I think the funniest complain so far is that "She-hulk did everything better than Hulk yadayada", but when you actually see the episode, Banner was holding back the entire time, he is clearly stronger and the only reason that Jenifer controled her hulk form way faster it's as simple as she does not have an entirely different personality messing her around which it's something that has nothing to do with being a woman but because Hulk was created by Banner's trauma in the past. The only thing it seemed she did unequivocally better was the yoga. But I'm guessing most of the whining like that isn't coming from folks who watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 The mess on the previous page or so: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox20 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Marvel Studios Disney+ Series Premiere Viewership Loki: 2.5 million Moon Knight: 1.8 million The Falcon and the Winter Soldier: 1.8 million WandaVision: 1.6 million Hawkeye: 1.5 million MsMarvel: 775K SheHulk: 1.5M I actually thought it was going to do worse but it's actually doing the MCU average numbers with shorter runtime and 1 day less than the last 4 series. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Shows are generating less interest now than when they started. I borrowed this from Eric's post in Steaming Tracking: By comparison: WandaVision (3 days): 1.6M households Falcon and Winter Soldier (3 days): 1.7M households Loki (5 days): 2.5M households Hawkeye (5 days): 1.5M households Moon Knight (5 days): 1.8M households Ms. Marvel (5 days): 775K households She Hulk (4 days): 1.5 households Not sure if Wandavision and FATWS would catch up with Loki on day 5 cause viewership drops daily so they wouldn't post as big numbers on that day as on day 1. But they should have cracked 2M in 5 days which puts all 3 comfortably ahead of the later shows. Could someone calculate how many households in 5 days for each? She-Hulk was heavily marketed on Daredevil's appearance closer to release and it has Hulk in it unlike Moon Knight which seems to be all on famous actors and well-cut trailer that promise dsomething different regardless of whether it delivered. Both attracted more viewers than Hawkeye who is a known character but didn't have buzzy guests until Kingpin who wasn't in marketing. But yeah, as far as opening goes, nothing tops the first trio of shows. And House of the Dragon premiere completely stole the headlines. Edited August 24, 2022 by Valonqar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Honestly, I expected a lot worse after the first trailer but looks like subsequent marketing was able to get it to normal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Marvel just said “fuck them men” with this one and I love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I thought this wasn't as heavy handed with that as the premier actually. I liked it a lot better, mostly because we're getting actual present day plot instead of origin flashbacks. Blonsky was great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...