The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[Legion Again]

Terrible news for DS2

Spoiler

Now it will be 2 matinee discounted shows per screen if Disney allows the blunder

 

[misterpepp]

Lol, Easter Sunday showtimes are going up for its current Aug 5 release date. Are they actually putting tickets on sale on Easter instead of... y'know... releasing it on Easter?

[poweranimals]

2 hours ago, Villain Legion said:

Terrible news for DS2

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Now it will be 2 matinee discounted shows per screen if Disney allows the blunder

 

Huh?

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, poweranimals said:

Huh?

 

Legion thinks studios are being short sighted by allowing theater chains to have matinee pricing for any preview showings.  Therefore he thinks "more showings in the matinee window" = "depressed gross".

 

I tend to think the economic argument is a bit more complicated, but not strongly enough to have a long back and forth about it.

Edited March 25, 2022 by Porthos

[Movies4Life]

Sam Raimi is not known for making 3-hour movies like the Russo Brothers are known to do, since he's a more-established, big-name, quality director, when he is not forced to make stories like Oz the Great and Powerful and Spider-Man 3, the latter more-so blamed on Sony.

 

So, considering that Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness is the same runtime in between the first two Spider-Man movies ever, both done, by Sam Raimi (each 121 minutes and 129 minutes long), it makes sense that Multiverse of Madness IS indeed Sam Raimi's movie as the recent trailer promised it would be when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM DIRECTOR SAM RAIMI" like how the final trailer for Eternals highlighted the fact that it WAS and still IS Chloe Zhao's movie as promised when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM ACADEMY AWARD WINNING DIRECTOR CHLOE ZHAO."

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

8 minutes ago, Movies4Life said:

Sam Raimi is not known for making 3-hour movies like the Russo Brothers are known to do, since he's a more-established, big-name, quality director, when he is not forced to make stories like Oz the Great and Powerful and Spider-Man 3, the latter more-so blamed on Sony.

 

So, considering that Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness is the same runtime in between the first two Spider-Man movies ever, both done, by Sam Raimi (each 121 minutes and 129 minutes long), it makes sense that Multiverse of Madness IS indeed Sam Raimi's movie as the recent trailer promised it would be when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM DIRECTOR SAM RAIMI" like how the final trailer for Eternals highlighted the fact that it WAS and still IS Chloe Zhao's movie as promised when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM ACADEMY AWARD WINNING DIRECTOR CHLOE ZHAO."

I mean, it has a similar runtime to the majority of MCU movies lol

[Movies4Life]

1 minute ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

I mean, it has a similar runtime to the majority of MCU movies lol

Perhaps, but seeing as how the half of Sam Raimi's last 4 big movies that were positively received were ones that managed to stay under 130 minutes, I see a necessary case for making Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness that long.

[poweranimals]

2 hours ago, Movies4Life said:

Sam Raimi is not known for making 3-hour movies like the Russo Brothers are known to do, since he's a more-established, big-name, quality director, when he is not forced to make stories like Oz the Great and Powerful and Spider-Man 3, the latter more-so blamed on Sony.

 

So, considering that Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness is the same runtime in between the first two Spider-Man movies ever, both done, by Sam Raimi (each 121 minutes and 129 minutes long), it makes sense that Multiverse of Madness IS indeed Sam Raimi's movie as the recent trailer promised it would be when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM DIRECTOR SAM RAIMI" like how the final trailer for Eternals highlighted the fact that it WAS and still IS Chloe Zhao's movie as promised when it said in the title card in big bold letters "FROM ACADEMY AWARD WINNING DIRECTOR CHLOE ZHAO."

I thought it was confirmed that it was  2 hours and 28 minutes.

[Movies4Life]

2 hours ago, poweranimals said:

I thought it was confirmed that it was  2 hours and 28 minutes.

That was just a placeholder from a Brazillian ticketing site

[BruiseCruise]

$40 mil budget for Ambulance 

[ThatWaluigiDude]

24 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said:

$40 mil budget for Ambulance 

Surprisingly cheap for a Michael Bay movie. It have a good shot at profit then.

[Pinacolada]

Yeah I mentioned that in its thread. If that number is true, then I applaud Bay. I also think it has a decent shot at doing well with that number

 

I remember last week it opened to $4.9m or whatever internationally and deadline said it opened in 35 locations or whatever and I was like damn that's bad. But that number of locations was blatantly false. And none of the locations it opened in were major markets really either.

 

So I'm cautiously optimistic for its numbers

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

I think Ambulance could have been a hit but April might be tough. Lots of advertisement for it but splitting PLF with Sonic.

 

I will predict 12m OW.

[Legion Again]

OS openings were encouraging for Bad guys and discouraging for Ambulance is my impression. Check the OS threads for more detail if you like 😛

 

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, ThatWaluigiDude said:

Surprisingly cheap for a Michael Bay movie. It have a good shot at profit then.

Pain & Gain cost only $26M despite having much higher star power.

[Eric Lasagna]

23 hours ago, Eric Says Trans Rights said:

Morbius Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-7 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	74	892	15649	5.70%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 38

 

Comp

0.579x of Shang-Chi T-7 (5.1M)

0.859x of Venom 2 T-7 (9.97M)

0.425x of Eternals T-7 (4.04M)

 

Well...I really hope this is a fluke.

Morbius Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-6 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	74	957	15649	6.12%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 65

 

Comp

0.572x of Shang-Chi T-6 (5.03M)

0.857x of Venom 2 T-6 (9.94M)

0.438x of Eternals T-6 (4.16M)

[Eric Lasagna]

23 hours ago, Eric Says Trans Rights said:

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	57	502	10373	4.84%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 20

 

Comp

0.566x of Shang-Chi T-14 (4.98M)

0.793x of Venom 2 T-14 (9.2M)

1.195x of Ghostbusters: Afterlife T-14 (5.38M)

2.057x of Uncharted T-14 (7.61M)

 

Adjusted Comp

4.961x of Sonic the Hedgehog T-14 (14.88M)

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	57	541	10373	5.22%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 39

 

Comp

0.575x of Shang-Chi T-13 (5.06M)

0.801x of Venom 2 T-13 (9.3M)

1.173x of Ghostbusters: Afterlife T-13 (5.28M)

2.026x of Uncharted T-13 (7.5M)

 

Adjusted Comp

4.600x of Sonic the Hedgehog T-13 (13.8M)

[Porthos]

On 3/25/2022 at 12:03 AM, Porthos said:

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	76	11162	11666	504	4.32%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

44

 

T-14 Comps  NOT TO BE TRUSTED - ONLY PROVIDED DUE TO NOT HAVING ANYTHING BETTER

	%		Sold T-14	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
GB:A	160.00		40	315		0/108	16380/16695	1.89%		3034	16.61%		7.20m
F9	52.01		71	969		0/191	13181/14150	6.85%		4407	11.32%		3.69m

PRE-SALE NOTE: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 tickets have been on sale for seven days longer than Ghostbusters: Afterlife had been on sale at this point in tracking while Sonic 2's tickets have been on sale for one day longer than F9's have been on sale.

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Sonic 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

***EXTREMELY UNOFFICIAL COMP***
Sonic 2 = 0.86602x Detective Pikachu at the same sources of tracking at T-14 [4.2m adj]

NOTE: Comp has been adjusted downward by 15% to account for differences in comping in Sacto from 2019 to 2022.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Detective Pikachu's tickets had been on sale five days longer than Sonic 2's have been on sale at this point in tracking.

 

Regal & Matinee info coming in later as well as Wed showtime info.

 

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Comps I have are objectively terrible, but I literally don't have anything better.  Been thinking about doing this for a bit, and decided to pull the trigger tonight based on some hunches and feelings I have about the trajectory of this flick.  Initial reactions aren't hurting here either.  But don't have my fancy chart system setup internally yet, so I don't want to spend the time getting the more nitty gritty details.

 

(let's see if this is the kiss-of-death or not )

 

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	80	11703	12255	552	4.50%

 

Total Showings Added Today	4
Total Seats Added Today	589
Total Seats Sold Today	48

 

T-13 Unadjusted Comps 

NOT TO BE TRUSTED - ONLY PROVIDED DUE TO NOT HAVING ANYTHING BETTER

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
TSS	163.31		14	338		0/81	13614/13952	2.42%		2352	23.47%		6.70m
SC	51.88		97	1064		0/101	15938/17002	6.26%		5847	9.44%		4.57m
LTBC	56.91		92	970		0/155	24891/25861	3.75%		7712	7.16%		6.60m
GB:A	151.65		49	364		0/108	16331/16695	2.18%		5847	9.44%		6.82m

PRE-SALE NOTE: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 tickets have been on sale for seven days longer than Ghostbusters: Afterlife and Shang-Chi's tickets had been on sale at this point in tracking while Sonic 2's tickets have been on sale for two days longer than The Suicide Squad's tickets had been on sale.

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Sonic 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

T-13 Adjusted Comps

NOT TO BE TRUSTED - ONLY PROVIDED DUE TO NOT HAVING ANYTHING BETTER

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
F9	54.63		48	983		0/79	11432/12415	7.92%		4407	12.19%		4.06m
Sonic (adj)	---		44	537		0/68	9699/10236	5.25%		---	---		---

ADJUSTEMENT NOTE:  Sonic (adj) is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters that had unreliable data polluting their seat maps that that point in F9's track.

COMP NOTE: The F9 comp has been adjusted to reflect the absence of Ontario theaters in the DOM market during F9's pre-sale run (what would normally be the comp/0.955). 

PRE-SALE NOTE: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 tickets have been on sale for one day longer than F9's had been at this point in tracking.

 

***EXTREMELY UNOFFICIAL COMP***
Sonic 2 = 0.85481x Detective Pikachu at the same sources of tracking at T-13 [4.1m adj]

NOTE: Comp has been adjusted downward by 15% to account for differences in comping in Sacto from 2019 to 2022.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Detective Pikachu's tickets had been on sale five days longer than Sonic 2's have been on sale at this point in tracking.

 

Wednesday sales:    155/1700   [9.12% sold]    +8 tickets]
Thursday sales:     397/10555   [3.76% sold]  +40 tickets]
---    
Regal:        86/2852  [3.02% sold]
Matinee:    29/2067  [1.40% | 5.25% of all tickets sold]

 

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The food comps may be lousy, but at least the portions are big there's a lot of them! 👍

Edited April 5, 2022 by Porthos

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Morbius Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-7 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	144	19809	20854	1045	5.01%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

58

 

T-7 Comps

	%		Sold T-7	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
SC	58.91		133	1774		0/111	15837/17611	10.07%		5847	17.87%		5.18m
LTBC	63.53		179	1645		0/173	26553/28198	5.83%		7712	13.55%		7.37m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Morbius' current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     171/5796  [2.95% sold]
Matinee:   59/1875  [3.15% | 5.65% of all tickets sold]

 

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This, on the other hand...  Yeah.  "Could be better" seems to be the right phrase if I don't want to overreact/meme-it-up.

 

Morbius Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	151	20284	21414	1130	5.28%

 

Total Showings Added Today	7
Total Seats Added Today	560
Total Seats Sold Today	85

 

T-6 Comps

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
TSS	203.97		36	554		0/87	14570/15124	3.66%		2352	48.04%		8.36m
SC	57.59		188	1962		0/111	15649/17611	11.14%		5847	19.33%		5.07m
LTBC	61.92		180	1825		0/173	26373/28198	6.47%		7712	14.65%		7.18m
ET	41.09		97	2750		0/101	13218/15968	17.22%		6409	17.63%		3.90m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Morbius' current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     193/6262  [3.08% sold]
Matinee:    67/1875  [3.57% | 5.93% of all tickets sold]

 

===

 

In an not-at-all-concerning development, I added a The Suicide Squad comp tonight.  Okay, it was more for a comparison against daily pace than anything else (same reason I added Eternals tonight) as well as checking out the percentage of final gross.

 

Mind, the TSS comp itself is gar-bage.  But I was interested in seeing how the daily sales matched up and I was somewhat (emphasis on somewhat) relieved that it sold rather well against it.  Sold fairly well against ET as well, but thanks to the disparate length of pre-sales, it has a very big hill to climb there.

 

Still... Not while not looking terri-bad, it ain't exactly taking off, either.

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 3/25/2022 at 8:22 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	TC	Shows	Seats	Sold	New	% Sold
T-12	Sonic (EA)	Jacksonville	5	6	942	49	4	5.20%
		Phoenix	1	1	208	46	0	22.12%
		Raleigh	1	1	261	15	0	5.75%
	Sonic (EA) Total		7	8	1,411	110	4	7.80%
T-13	Sonic	Jacksonville	6	37	5,419	96	6	1.77%
		Phoenix	6	22	3,740	137	13	3.66%
		Raleigh	8	24	3,273	127	20	3.88%
	Sonic Total		20	83	12,432	360	39	2.90%
T-6	Morbius	Jacksonville	6	68	11,325	297	31	2.62%
		Phoenix	6	48	9,045	304	22	3.36%
		Raleigh	8	35	4,876	237	1	4.86%
	Morbius Total		20	151	25,246	838	54	3.32%

 

Morbius T-6 comps

 - Eternals - .38x (3.6m)

 - SC - .645x (5.68m)

 - Venom 2 - .87x (10.13m)

 - Suicide Squad - 1.97x (8.08m)

 

Sonic 2 T-13 comps (Thu sales only)

 - Ghostbusters - missed

 - Shang-Chi - .51x (4.46m)

 - F9 - .56x (4m)

 - TSS - 1.35x (5.53m)

(Still no good comps, just using what I have)

 

Sonic 2 EA T-12 comp

 - Sing 2 EA - .44x

 - Time to Die EA - 1.05x

Day	Movie	Area	TC	Shows	Seats	Sold	New	% Sold
T-11	Sonic (EA)	Jacksonville	5	6	942	54	5	5.73%
		Phoenix	1	1	208	49	3	23.56%
		Raleigh	1	1	261	21	6	8.05%
	Sonic (EA) Total		7	8	1,411	124	14	8.79%
T-12	Sonic	Jacksonville	6	37	5,419	103	7	1.90%
		Phoenix	6	22	3,740	139	2	3.72%
		Raleigh	8	24	3,273	136	9	4.16%
	Sonic Total		20	83	12,432	378	18	3.04%
T-5	Morbius	Jacksonville	6	68	11,325	320	23	2.83%
		Phoenix	6	48	9,045	322	18	3.56%
		Raleigh	8	35	4,876	253	16	5.19%
	Morbius Total		20	151	25,246	895	57	3.55%

 

Morbius T-5 comps

 - Eternals - .39x (3.7m)

 - SC - .62x (5.47m)

 - Venom 2 - missed

 - Suicide Squad - 1.89x (7.76m)

 

Sonic 2 T-12 comps (Thu sales only)

 - Ghostbusters - .91x (3,78m)

 - Shang-Chi - .5x (4.38m)

 - F9 - .54x (3.82m)

 - TSS - 1.35x (5.54m)

(Still no good comps, just using what I have)

 

Sonic 2 EA T-11 comp

 - Sing 2 EA - .46x