The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[charlie Jatinder]

2 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

Lightyear goes on sale June 7th.  3pm shows.  

That's late. But will be easier to judge I guess.

[Maggie]

When are we gonna get the numbers for yesterday's advance screening for Top Gun2?

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 5/24/2022 at 11:19 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day	Movie	Format	Shows	New	Sold	True Cap	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-0	Top Gun 2 (EA)	PLF	6	84	1,372	1,599	85.80%	$21.65	$29,703.80
T-16	JW3	PLF	30	60	1,510	6,386	23.65%	$16.89	$25,508.17
		Standard	75	23	771	10,357	7.44%	$12.12	$9,344.27
	JW3 Total		105	83	2,281	16,743	13.62%	$15.28	$34,852.44
T-2	Bob's Burgers	Standard	30	60	215	3,087	6.96%	$12.00	$2,579.02
T-2	Top Gun 2	PLF	38	324	2,305	9,131	25.24%	$16.35	$37,690.18
		Standard	82	234	1,312	11,621	11.29%	$12.52	$16,420.70
	Top Gun 2 Total		120	558	3,617	20,752	17.43%	$14.96	$54,110.88
T-3	Top Gun 2 (Fri)	PLF	48	348	2,693	11,498	23.42%	$16.09	$43,319.22
		Standard	89	215	1,427	11,742	12.15%	$12.13	$17,315.07
	Top Gun 2 (Fri) Total		137	563	4,120	23,240	17.73%	$14.72	$60,634.29

 

By matinee

 

Day	Movie	Mat	Shows	New	Sold	True Cap	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-16	JW3	N	84	68	1,966	13,674	14.38%	$15.95	$31,354.25
		Y	21	15	315	3,069	10.26%	$11.11	$3,498.19
	JW3 Total		105	83	2,281	16,743	13.62%	$15.28	$34,852.44
T-2	Top Gun 2	N	92	470	3,085	15,671	19.69%	$15.53	$47,907.52
		Y	28	88	532	5,081	10.47%	$11.66	$6,203.36
	Top Gun 2 Total		120	558	3,617	20,752	17.43%	$14.96	$54,110.88
T-3	Top Gun 2 (Fri)	N	70	410	3,134	11,940	26.25%	$15.64	$49,005.19
		Y	67	153	986	11,300	8.73%	$11.79	$11,629.10
	Top Gun 2 (Fri) Total		137	563	4,120	23,240	17.73%	$14.72	$60,634.29

 

Bob's Burgers T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 - .214x (1.07m)

 - FB3 - .16x (966k)

 - Northman - 1.64x (2.21m)

 - Bad Guys - 2.83x (3.25m)

 

Top Gun T-2 comps

 - No Way Home - .202x (10.1m)

 - Doctor Strange 2 - .267x (9.61m)

 - FB3 - 2.71x (16.26m)

 - Batman (Thu) - .702x (12.36m)

 - Sonic (Thu) - 3.6x (17.92m)

 

Top Gun + EA comp

 - Batman + EA - .892x (19.27m)

 

Top Gun (Fri) T-3 comps

 - NWH (Fri) - .269x (19.37m)

 - Batman (Fri) - .767x (26.9m)

 - DS 2 (Fri) - .377x (20.66m)

 

JW3 T-16 comp

 - DS 2 - .247x (8.89m)

 - NWH - .172x (8.6m)

 - Batman (Thu) - Missed

 - Batman + EA - Missed

- Top Gun 2 - 1.99x

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day	Movie	Format	Shows	New	Sold	True Cap	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-1	Bob's Burgers	Standard	30	51	266	3,087	8.62%	$11.93	$3,172.99
T-1	Top Gun 2	PLF	38	248	2,553	9,131	27.96%	$16.26	$41,521.21
		Standard	82	268	1,580	11,621	13.60%	$12.42	$19,623.19
	Top Gun 2 Total		120	516	4,133	20,752	19.92%	$14.79	$61,144.40
T-2	Top Gun 2 (Fri)	PLF	51	448	3,141	11,973	26.23%	$15.97	$50,174.59
		Standard	137	338	1,765	18,504	9.54%	$11.89	$20,978.59
	Top Gun 2 (Fri) Total		188	786	4,906	30,477	16.10%	$14.50	$71,153.18

 

By matinee

 

Day	Movie	Mat	Shows	New	Sold	True Cap	% Sold	ATP	Gross
T-1	Top Gun 2	N	92	384	3,469	15,671	22.14%	$15.40	$53,406.45
		Y	28	132	664	5,081	13.07%	$11.65	$7,737.95
	Top Gun 2 Total		120	516	4,133	20,752	19.92%	$14.79	$61,144.40
T-2	Top Gun 2 (Fri)	N	89	509	3,567	14,620	24.40%	$15.54	$55,421.63
		Y	99	277	1,339	15,857	8.44%	$11.75	$15,731.55
	Top Gun 2 (Fri) Total		188	786	4,906	30,477	16.10%	$14.50	$71,153.18

 

*No JW3 today - might wait until weekend to pick it back up*

 

Bob's Burgers T-1 comps

 - Sonic 2 - .175x (870k)

 - FB3 - .172x (1.03m)

 - Northman - 1.67x (2.26m)

 - Bad Guys - 2.95x (3.39m)

 

Top Gun T-1 comps

 - No Way Home - .217x (10.87m)

 - Doctor Strange 2 - missed

 - FB3 - 2.67x (16.04m)

 - Batman (Thu) - .685x (12.07m)

 - Sonic (Thu) - 2.71x (13.51m)

 

Top Gun + EA comp

 - Batman + EA - 85.x (18.36m)

 - Sonic + EA - 2.35x (14.69m)

 

Top Gun (Fri) T-2 comps

 - NWH (Fri) - .292x (20.99m)

 - Batman (Fri) - .762x (26.67m)

 - DS 2 (Fri) - .45x (24.6m)

[filmlover]

22 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

Something going on at Universal.  The Black Phone was supposed to go on sale tomnorrow and now it isn't.  

I just noticed this too, all the showtimes that were about to go on sale are now gone where I am. Wonder if it's getting moved in light of recent events (given its "children in distress" premise).

[DAJK]

6 minutes ago, filmlover said:

I just noticed this too, all the showtimes that were about to go on sale are now gone where I am. Wonder if it's getting moved in light of recent events (given its "children in distress" premise).

Didn’t even think about it. Either way, I think August is better for it anyways.

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Didn’t even think about it. Either way, I think August is better for it anyways.

August 12 would be fine but Universal has Beast (another star vehicle thriller) opening the week after that. I'm guessing they could always try September, which is low on horror aside from Salem's Lot.

[Eric is Quiet]

21 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

That's late. But will be easier to judge I guess.

Encanto's presales started a week before release. Bob's Burgers was like 8 days. I guess these super short windows is what Disney's doing for their animated movies now? Which like...I guess that's fine? They can do what they want I guess?

[charlie Jatinder]

Top Gun 2 Landmark Canada WED

 

AB - 696 on 6 locs
ON - 1067 on 7 locs
BC - 300 on 3 locs
MB - 135 on 2 locs
SK - 201 on 2 locs

 

Total - 2399 on 20 locs. C$60k

[filmlover]

25 minutes ago, Eric Belcher said:

Encanto's presales started a week before release. Bob's Burgers was like 8 days. I guess these super short windows is what Disney's doing for their animated movies now? Which like...I guess that's fine? They can do what they want I guess?

Could also be that they're trying to sort out the IMAX/Dolby screens for the movie since Jurassic World will still be going strong a week later.

[Tinalera]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I guess WED has like 1500+ tix sold.

 

Only 4 shows. 527.

Could explain where some of the Thurs day numbers went to. Either those who really want to see first it went for Wed, or they waited till friday (again thats when a lot of the prestige screens pop up for sale).  Certainly interesting to see how numbers move about.

[Tinalera]

26 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Top Gun 2 Landmark Canada WED

 

AB - 696 on 6 locs
ON - 1067 on 7 locs
BC - 300 on 3 locs
MB - 135 on 2 locs
SK - 201 on 2 locs

 

Total - 2399 on 20 locs. C$60k

Kudos for doing a Canada wide Wed count-I admit I never thought about going outside of Ontario (which is totally on me lol). Interesting numbers

[EmpireCity]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

I just noticed this too, all the showtimes that were about to go on sale are now gone where I am. Wonder if it's getting moved in light of recent events (given its "children in distress" premise).

 

Yep, that is why.  Pausing due to the events in Uvalde yesterday.  Smart and classy move by them.  

[EmpireCity]

1 hour ago, DAJK said:

Didn’t even think about it. Either way, I think August is better for it anyways.

 

It isn't moving, just tickets on sale pushed back out of respect.  

[BadOlCatSylvester]

51 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

It isn't moving, just tickets on sale pushed back out of respect. 

I mean, it's not like they can move it even if they wanted to. July has Minions 2 and the domestic release of Nope, while August has Beast and international releases of Nope.

 

Still, I honestly won't be surprised if they reduce the scale of the release after the shitshow that went down in the US yesterday. Less screens and a lower marketing budget, maybe?

[EmpireCity]

38 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I mean, it's not like they can move it even if they wanted to. July has Minions 2 and the domestic release of Nope, while August has Beast and international releases of Nope.

 

Still, I honestly won't be surprised if they reduce the scale of the release after the shitshow that went down in the US yesterday. Less screens and a lower marketing budget, maybe?

 

No.  Zero chance.  There is no reason to scale it down.  

[EmpireCity]

I also want to re-iterate to not forget early private and corporate events for Top Gun: Maverick.  They were allowed to start as early as 8am today (Wednesday) all the way up through the public release at 3pm on Thursday.  All of these will get rolled into Friday's numbers anbd they will not be insignificant.  

 

The early buyouts like these took a huge hit since March 2020 and this is the first time they are back at a pre-pandemic level.  

[filmlover]

47 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I mean, it's not like they can move it even if they wanted to. July has Minions 2 and the domestic release of Nope, while August has Beast and international releases of Nope.

 

Still, I honestly won't be surprised if they reduce the scale of the release after the shitshow that went down in the US yesterday. Less screens and a lower marketing budget, maybe?

Eh, movies have lost their release dates at the 11th hour due to unforeseen circumstances plenty of times before. Big Trouble and Collateral Damage being pulled from their late September/early October releases immediately after 9/11 and the Spring 2020 exodus during the rise of COVID among the more notable delays.

 

I had The Black Phone as one of the potential breakouts of the summer but now, I dunno. Doesn't seem like the right time to really push a "child in jeopardy" thriller (albeit one with supernatural elements) on the public. Good news for Nope taking advantage of the paucity of appealing horror flicks in the market, I suppose.

 

[EmpireCity]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Eh, movies have lost their release dates at the 11th hour due to unforeseen circumstances plenty of times before. Big Trouble and Collateral Damage being pulled from their late September/early October releases immediately after 9/11 and the Spring 2020 exodus during the rise of COVID among the more notable delays.

 

I had The Black Phone as one of the potential breakouts of the summer but now, I dunno. Doesn't seem like the right time to really push a "child in jeopardy" thriller (albeit one with supernatural elements) on the public. Good news for Nope taking advantage of the paucity of appealing horror flicks in the market, I suppose.

 

 

I don't think it affects it at all, especiall when it isn't released for another month.  

 

The new on sale date is May 31st.  

[el sid]

JWD, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, June 10:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 349 (9 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 229 (18 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 34 (13 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 9 (6 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 36 (11 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 295 (18 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 887 (26 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.839.

Comp: Uncharted (44.0M OW) had 276 sold tickets also exactly 16 days before its release Friday.
The numbers between the coasts are still a bit weak but overall it improved a lot in my theaters.

 

Bob's Burgers, counted today at 10am EST for Friday:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 90 (7 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 17 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 47 (9 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 16 (4 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 21 (5 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 64 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 125 (10 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 380.

Up 29% since yesterday.
 

Comp: Jackass Forever had on the same day, Wednesday of its release week, 726 sold tickets. So BB came a bit closer since yesterday. Tomorrow again both days.

[ThomasNicole]

There's nothing in The Black Phone suggesting any direct co-relation with the tragedy 

 

It's radically different than an airplane accident movie after 9/11 where the link is obvious 

 

Black Phone have children but nothing to do with guns / schools / mental issues. 

 

So yeah, it's nice to delay the sales a bit, but the movie? Nonsense, they're right.

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by ThomasNicole