The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[SnokesLegs]

8 minutes ago, Porthos said:

ScreenX, on the other hand, IS 2D, but that might be an error.

Does ScreenX even do 3D? Surely the blurry screens to the left and right of you would be headache inducing. I’ve never seen them put on a 3D showing in that screen at the cinema near me.

[Porthos]

31 minutes ago, SnokesLegs said:

Does ScreenX even do 3D? Surely the blurry screens to the left and right of you would be headache inducing. I’ve never seen them put on a 3D showing in that screen at the cinema near me.

 

No idea, as I never go to them, but that's as good an explanation as any as why they're the sole PLF 2D format I've seen so far.  Emphasis on so far.

[Eric the Minion]

15 hours ago, Eric Killmonger said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-34 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	61	50	10286	0.49%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 20

 

Comp

0.154x of Sing 2 T-33 (1.5M)

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-33 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	61	60	10286	0.58%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 10

 

Comp

0.185x of Sign 2 T-33 (1.8M)

[M37]

10 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

No idea, as I never go to them, but that's as good an explanation as any as why they're the sole PLF 2D format I've seen so far.  Emphasis on so far.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s not physically possible; even if the main projector were 3D capable, I’m 95% sure the side screen projectors don’t even have that capability, so you’d be getting both formats at once … which is giving me a headache just thinking about it 🤕 

 

I’m pretty sure all shows that can be 3D (including PLF) will be required to be (by Disney). Now what 3D demand will look like is another question …

[interiorgatordecorator]

1 hour ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:

 

All I know is, I won't be doing 3D. So if all of my PLF screens are going that route, I'll just be copping $8 tickets at my local Cinemark and hittin' the recline button! 

 

there a specific reason for that? if theres a movie for which taking 3d risk is a good idea its avatar

Edited November 19, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[XXR & Friends]

5 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

there a specific reason for that? if theres a movie for which taking 3d risk is a good idea its avatar

 

Yea I can't perceive stereoscopic 3D like that so it does me no good. 

Edited November 19, 2022 by Toruk Makto XXR

[interiorgatordecorator]

Just now, Toruk Makto XXR said:

 

Yea I can't perceived stereoscopic 3D like that so it does me no good. 

 

screenX?

[XXR & Friends]

Just now, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

screenX?

 

Is that the ones with extra screens on the side? 

[interiorgatordecorator]

6 minutes ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:

 

Is that the ones with extra screens on the side? 

dk, someone mentioned in this thread

now that I think about, my mom might have a similar struggle with 3d than you

[Porthos]

14 minutes ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:

 

Is that the ones with extra screens on the side? 

 

Yup.

[katnisscinnaplex]

23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Bones and All	T-4	Jax	5	8	4	9	719	1.25%
		Phx	6	10	1	7	662	1.06%
		Ral	6	9	2	12	694	1.73%
	Total		17	27	7	28	2,075	1.35%
Chosen Season 3	T-0	Jax	5	34	49	833	2,858	29.15%
		Phx	4	42	63	764	5,481	13.94%
		Ral	7	24	58	879	2,032	43.26%
	Total		16	100	170	2,476	10,371	23.87%
Devotion	T-4	Jax	5	16	2	25	1,470	1.70%
		Phx	7	20	1	14	2,238	0.63%
		Ral	7	18	4	19	1,363	1.39%
	Total		19	54	7	58	5,071	1.14%
Fabelmans	T-5	Jax	1	4	3	8	344	2.33%
		Phx	1	4	0	1	164	0.61%
		Ral	3	11	1	13	1,323	0.98%
	Total		5	19	4	22	1,831	1.20%
Glass Onion	T-5	Jax	4	17	6	156	1,962	7.95%
		Phx	3	16	16	120	1,380	8.70%
		Ral	2	11	15	226	896	25.22%
	Total		9	44	37	502	4,238	11.85%
Heard the Bells	T-13	Jax	4	5	2	73	678	10.77%
		Phx	2	2	0	26	596	4.36%
		Ral	6	6	-6	238	566	42.05%
	Total		12	13	-4	337	1,840	18.32%
Puss Boots (EA)	T-8	Jax	4	4	12	39	366	10.66%
		Phx	5	5	23	51	488	10.45%
		Ral	5	5	0	15	667	2.25%
	Total		14	14	35	105	1,521	6.90%
Puss in Boots	T-33	Jax	5	29	0	4	3,051	0.13%
		Phx	5	25	0	3	3,084	0.10%
		Ral	6	35	4	15	4,013	0.37%
	Total		16	89	4	22	10,148	0.22%
Strange World	T-4	Jax	5	18	3	12	1,768	0.68%
		Phx	7	22	4	26	2,936	0.89%
		Ral	8	19	0	6	2,100	0.29%
	Total		20	59	7	44	6,804	0.65%
Violent Night	T-13	Jax	5	18	2	13	1,974	0.66%
		Phx	5	14	5	12	2,161	0.56%
		Ral	6	13	4	16	1,485	1.08%
	Total		16	45	11	41	5,620	0.73%

 

Chosen T-0 comps (opening day vs previews)

 - Downton Abbey + EA - 1.91x (3.43m)

 - JJK - 1.42x (4.08m)

 - MHA - 1.52x (4.4m)

 - One Piece - 2.665x (4.81m)

All drama movies - 6.94m

All movies - 8.03m

 

Not really sure what to expect from this; last year's Chosen movie was extremely presales heavy and presumably a large chunk was group sales.  If we see the same thing this year, maybe we get a ~3.5m opening day?  Maybe 8m for the weekend?  Hoping for higher but erring on the side of caution.

 

Bones and All T-4 comps

 - Crawdads - .082x (163k)

 - Antlers - .737x (273k)

 - Smile - missed

 - Last Night in Soho - .491x (368k)

 

Strange World T-4 comps

 - Lightyear - missed

 - Encanto - .272x (407k)

 - Sonic 2 - .057x (283k)

 

Devotion - T-4 comps

 - Amsterdam - missed

 - Snake Eyes - .453x (634k)

 - Free Guy - .209x (459k)

 - Massive Talent - missed

 

Glass Onion T-5 comps (Opening day vs previews)

 - NTTD + EA - missed

 - F9 - .44x (3.13m)

 - Ghostbusters + EA - missed

 - Top Gun 2 + EA - .11x (2.12m)

Fabelmans T-5 comps (Opening day vs previews)

 - House of Gucci - .161x (209k)

 - Elvis - .053x (169k)

 

Puss in Boots EA T-8 comps

 - Sing 2 EA - .347x

 - Sonic 2 EA - .686x (872k)

 

Violent Night T-13 comps

 - Easter Sunday - 2.93x (1.46m)

 - Bullet Train - .265x (886k)

 - Northman - .732x (988k)

 

(Not sure what to use here)

 

I Heard the Bells T-13 comps

 - Downton Abbey + EA - missed

 

Puss in Boots T-33 comps

 - Nope - .146x (932k)

 - JW3 + EA - .014x (257k)

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Bones and All	T-3	Jax	5	9	5	14	756	1.85%
		Phx	6	11	1	8	711	1.13%
		Ral	6	9	6	18	936	1.92%
	Total		17	29	12	40	2,403	1.66%
Devotion	T-3	Jax	5	16	1	26	1,470	1.77%
		Phx	7	20	3	17	2,238	0.76%
		Ral	7	18	15	34	1,516	2.24%
	Total		19	54	19	77	5,224	1.47%
Fabelmans	T-4	Jax	2	8	0	8	492	1.63%
		Phx	1	4	1	2	164	1.22%
		Ral	3	12	-4	9	1,540	0.58%
	Total		6	24	-3	19	2,196	0.87%
Glass Onion	T-4	Jax	4	17	25	181	1,962	9.23%
		Phx	3	16	9	129	1,380	9.35%
		Ral	2	11	20	246	896	27.46%
	Total		9	44	54	556	4,238	13.12%
Heard the Bells	T-12	Jax	4	5	3	76	678	11.21%
		Phx	2	2	0	26	596	4.36%
		Ral	6	6	4	242	566	42.76%
	Total		12	13	7	344	1,840	18.70%
Puss Boots (EA)	T-7	Jax	4	4	11	50	366	13.66%
		Phx	5	5	12	63	488	12.91%
		Ral	5	5	17	32	667	4.80%
	Total		14	14	40	145	1,521	9.53%
Puss in Boots	T-32	Jax	5	29	0	4	3,051	0.13%
		Phx	5	25	5	8	3,084	0.26%
		Ral	6	35	0	15	4,013	0.37%
	Total		16	89	5	27	10,148	0.27%
Strange World	T-3	Jax	5	19	9	21	1,936	1.08%
		Phx	7	23	0	26	2,994	0.87%
		Ral	8	19	4	10	2,100	0.48%
	Total		20	61	13	57	7,030	0.81%
Violent Night	T-12	Jax	5	18	4	17	1,974	0.86%
		Phx	5	14	1	13	2,161	0.60%
		Ral	6	13	5	21	1,485	1.41%
	Total		16	45	10	51	5,620	0.91%

 

Bones and All T-3 comps

 - Crawdads - .092x (183k)

 - Antlers - 1x (370k)

 - Smile - missed

 - Last Night in Soho - .556x (417k)

 

Strange World T-3 comps

 - Lightyear - .079x (385k)

 - Encanto - .298x (448k)

 - Sonic 2 - .064x (321k)

 

Devotion - T-3 comps

 - Amsterdam - .733x (403k)

 - Snake Eyes - .467x (653k)

 - Free Guy - .252x (555k)

 - Massive Talent - .713x (499k)

 

Glass Onion T-4 comps (Opening day vs previews)

 - NTTD + EA - .526x (3.31m)

 - F9 - .53x (3.75m)

 - Ghostbusters + EA - .817x (3.68m)

 - Top Gun 2 + EA - .13x (2.51m)

Fabelmans T-4 comps (Opening day vs previews)

 - House of Gucci - .11x (144k)

 - Elvis - missed

 

(One theater that had 9 tickets sold has removed all of their Fabelmans shows)

 

Puss in Boots EA T-7 comps

 - Sing 2 EA - .463x

 - Sonic 2 EA - .895x (1.14k)

 

(EA sales have been consistently increasing against the comps.  Should be a solid day)

 

Violent Night T-12 comps

 - Easter Sunday - 2.83x (1.42m)

 - Bullet Train - .274x (919k)

 - Northman - missed

 

(Not sure what to use here)

 

I Heard the Bells T-12 comps

 - Downton Abbey + EA - .917x (1.65m)

 

Puss in Boots T-32 comps

 - Nope - missed

 - JW3 + EA - missed

[Tinalera]

17 hours ago, Porthos said:

First showtimes for A2 have popped up on Regal, locally.

 

3pm previews.

 

6:2 split for 3D:2D for the theater in question.

 

 

(no PLF screens at this theater)

 

[filmlover]

Avatar showtimes already popping up near me too. Already noticing a lot of theaters starting it at 9 in the morning, most likely to try and fit in as many showtimes as possible with that runtime.

[misterpepp]

On 11/18/2022 at 12:10 AM, datpepper said:

I believe it was already known that Avatar 2 would go on sale Monday, which is accurate. If anyone wants to know the exact time on the day, at least one major nationwide chain has sales beginning at 6am EST.

Hmm… now I’m hearing it might be noon EST. Oh well, it’s one or the other!

 

EDIT: Well this is causing some confusion. One chain still has the time as 6, another has noon. Might be some inconsistencies as to who puts them on sale when.

Edited November 19, 2022 by datpepper

[Eric the Minion]

22 hours ago, Eric Killmonger said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-33 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	61	60	10286	0.58%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 10

 

Comp

0.185x of Sign 2 T-33 (1.8M)

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-32 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	61	59	10286	0.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: -1

 

Comp

0.178x of Sing 2 T-32 (1.73M)

[Tinalera]

9 hours ago, filmlover said:

Avatar showtimes already popping up near me too. Already noticing a lot of theaters starting it at 9 in the morning, most likely to try and fit in as many showtimes as possible with that runtime.

9 am showtimes? Wow, thats...wow. Does anyone know if either of the inifinity war movies were that early? 

 

This is going to be so much fun....

 

Edit for the record, Cineplex up here in Ontario is merely showing "coming soon" so imagine Monday they might start popping in-but who knows for sure with Cineplex.

Edited November 20, 2022 by Tinalera

[XXR & Friends]

2 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

9 am showtimes? Wow, thats...wow. Does anyone know if either of the inifinity war movies were that early? 

 

This is going to be so much fun....

 

Endgame had theaters essentially running nonstop from 6PM Thursday until about 10PM Sunday. For instance, Empire 25 in NYC had their final show for "Thursday" start at 3AM on Friday and their first Friday show started at 7AM. 

[Shawn Robbins]

On 11/18/2022 at 10:59 AM, keysersoze123 said:

King Jim to @Shawn

 

I mean, I said as much in the report. If anyone reads it or just skips to the raw range and interprets that as doubting the film, it ain't my problem. 😆

[Deep Wang]

20 hours ago, filmlover said:

Avatar showtimes already popping up near me too. Already noticing a lot of theaters starting it at 9 in the morning, most likely to try and fit in as many showtimes as possible with that runtime.

 

Yeah, I just checked and I see times on fandango for Regal theaters here, but wtf the Marq*e STILL doesn't have a listing for their IMAX.  They've been renovating since like August what is taking so long?!

[IronJimbo]

4 minutes ago, Shawn said:

I mean, I said as much in the report. If anyone reads it or just skips to the raw range and interprets that as doubting the film, it ain't my problem. 😆

The legs part doesn't really have anything much to do with tracking, rather on how well you think the film is going to be recieved by audiences. Which I think you've completely missed the mark on! I understand if you do tracking all the time on regular movies, it's going to be difficult to predict anything over 5x legs, just like with Top Gun. The difference with Top Gun and this movie however is that we have more much information at our disposal to understand just how good Avatar 2 is going to be.

 

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-james-camerons-avatar-the-way-of-water/

your page is down by the way