Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.

[Grebacio]

2 hours ago, Austin said:

I know we kinda went over this before but what is the top 10 highest number of pages for weekend threads? Is this one even remotely close lol? 

 

On 6/17/2023 at 5:26 PM, ZeeSoh said:

 

Jurassic World - 440 pages

Avengers Endgame - 397 pages (has the most views though)

The Dark Knight Rises - 386 pages

Han Solo - 375 pages

Transformers 4 - 374 pages

Hunger Games: Catching Fire - 370 pages

Infinity War - 369 pages

BvS - 373 pages

 

Jurassic World has the longest 2nd and 3rd weekend threads at 311 and 167 pages respectively. Although JW had the assist of Inside Out in its 2nd weekend. 

 

Rogue One Christmas weekdays thread is the longest weekdays thread with 161 pages. 

 

 

PS: page numbers may be lower for users as they cannot see hidden posts. 

 

You can check the threads here at - https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/forum/76-numbers-and-data/?sortby=posts&sortdirection=desc

 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

6 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Aquaman making a billion was the worst thing that could happen to DC. If it had bombed like Justice League they probably would've only made 1 or 2 more movies than rebooted. But since it made a billion, it gave DC false hope that they could salvage the universe can get more hits, which they obviously didn't.

The worst thing that could happen to DC was, you know, actually losing money on a film instead of making profit

 

And your post is entirely a misinterpretation.... Aquaman had no factor on greenlighting further projects or inspiring false hope.

 

-Justice League was already filming in 2016 a full 2 years before Aquaman released

-WW2 was announced July 2017, a month after the first film and still a year before Aquaman released. It began filming June 2018

-Despite the mediocre success of MOS in 2013, WB still went full steam ahead with the Snyderverse and included their most crucial IP (Batman) with immediate plans for Justice League

 

Post Aquaman: 7 films were released (majority already announced prior before Aquaman ala WW84 or filmed before ala Shazam 2). 5 films were released prior, and more have been canceled ala WW3 and The Trenches aka a direct Aquaman spinoff

[ringedmortality]

3 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:

Non zero chance they would put Philips and Mazin in charge. 

 

Phillips Superman? Hell yeah. Would have been awesome for Clark to say “paging doctor...."

[PrinceRico]

2 hours ago, The Dark Alfred said:

WB is losing 250m minimum on this on. Will finish below BLACK ADAM and UNCHARTED. Gunn off to a terrible start.

He hasn’t started yet.

[lilmac]

On 6/17/2023 at 7:35 AM, FunkMiller said:

 

Every DCEU movie for years has flopped. Non DCEU stuff has succeeded.

 

That's a bummer since some of the films were decent. The profit/loss for the Suicide Squad remake in particular had to be monstruous.

[vinny2487]

51 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Aquaman making a billion was the worst thing that could happen to DC. If it had bombed like Justice League they probably would've only made 1 or 2 more movies than rebooted. But since it made a billion, it gave DC false hope that they could salvage the universe can get more hits, which they obviously didn't.

 

The worst thing to happen to DC was WB's decision to forge ahead with Justice League when they had tiny window to cancel it after BvS opening weekend. Snyder should've been fired once those 2nd weekend numbers dropped. 

[Borobudur]

53 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Aquaman making a billion was the worst thing that could happen to DC. If it had bombed like Justice League they probably would've only made 1 or 2 more movies than rebooted. But since it made a billion, it gave DC false hope that they could salvage the universe can get more hits, which they obviously didn't.

Aquaman making a billion is not a bad thing for DC, it is the wrong lesson that DC took from Aquaman. The success of Aquaman is because how general and crowdpleasing it is. General public just doesn't care the DC worldbuilding and that is why they whenever they attempt to build a wider universe, the movie failed. 

[THUNDER BIRD]

57 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Aquaman making a billion was the worst thing that could happen to DC. If it had bombed like Justice League they probably would've only made 1 or 2 more movies than rebooted. But since it made a billion, it gave DC false hope that they could salvage the universe can get more hits, which they obviously didn't.

The worst thing to happen to DC was to give Zack Snyder the keys to the kingdom.

 

When your foundation was so hollow, the building was gonna crumble anyways.

[Barbie]

On 6/19/2023 at 1:51 AM, DAJK said:

Kind of a shame that both big movies this weekend were really solid films and they’re both the bombs of the year. Oh well, you win some you lose some. I’ve kind of accepted that me and critics, or me and audiences, won’t always agree on every movie. And that’s completely okay.

 

I just hope Muschiettei continues to get work.

not ezra tho

[MovieMan89]

Yeah, all of the DCEU wreckage goes back to the Snyderverse. Even IF WB had just let him run rampant with his vision, it was an “acquired” taste to put it mildly and never gonna fly with the GA at large. The fact that they realized that a few years in and then tried to nerf him just made it even more messy. 
 

The hard reboot should have come immediately after the JL disaster, and I suspect probably would have if they hadn’t also just had the most successful WOM cbm hit pretty much ever in WW that was unfortunately chained to the existing universe. 

Edited June 20, 2023 by MovieMan89

[Reddroast]

22 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, all of the DCEU wreckage goes back to the Snyderverse. Even IF WB had just let him run rampant with his vision, it was an “acquired” taste to put it mildly and never gonna fly with the GA at large. The fact that they realized that a few years in and then tried to nerf him just made it even more messy. 
 

The hard reboot should have come immediately after the JL disaster, and I suspect probably would have if they hadn’t also just had the most successful WOM cbm hit pretty much ever in WW that was unfortunately chained to the existing universe. 

Honestly it goes back to superman returns disappointing in 06. If that was bigger this wouldn't have happened

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, all of the DCEU wreckage goes back to the Snyderverse. Even IF WB had just let him run rampant with his vision, it was an “acquired” taste to put it mildly and never gonna fly with the GA at large. The fact that they realized that a few years in and then tried to nerf him just made it even more messy. 
 

The hard reboot should have come immediately after the JL disaster, and I suspect probably would have if they hadn’t also just had the most successful WOM cbm hit pretty much ever in WW that was unfortunately chained to the existing universe. 

After MOS underperformed, they should have stopped the breaks instead of throwing a desperate Hail Mary for BVS...

 

Though it does say something intriguing that despite MOS, the hype for BVS just for introducing a new Batman and having him interact with Superman for the first time almost paid off lol

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

 

[Eevin]

it’s kind of baffling how WB has managed to implode goodwill for its two biggest franchises so completely (DC & harry potter) — due in part to bad actors like ezra miller & jk rowling, yes, but mostly due to a series of really stupid, entirely avoidable creative decisions and just a glut of terrible product. the last 5-10 years should go down in history as a cautionary tale of how to alienate hardcore fans and general audiences at the same time. james gunn has his fucking work cut out for him that’s for sure. 

[Mr Roark]

3 hours ago, PrinceRico said:

He hasn’t started yet.

Well he said on Twitter months ago that he sent a lot of notes to Muschietti.

Let’s say he helped making the film even worse.

[Mr Roark]

42 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

After MOS underperformed, they should have stopped the breaks instead of throwing a desperate Hail Mary for BVS...

 

Though it does say something intriguing that despite MOS, the hype for BVS just for introducing a new Batman and having him interact with Superman for the first time almost paid off lol

 

MoS didn’t “underperformed”.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

20 minutes ago, Mr Roark said:

 

MoS didn’t “underperformed”.

girl...

[Krissykins]

It’s a huge financial flop, but it’s not losing $250m when all is said and done, that’s just hyperbolic. 
 

So, Spider Verse easy #1 this weekend, or will No Hard Feelings breakout? 

Edited June 20, 2023 by Krissykins

[Willowra]

9 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

It’s a huge financial flop, but it’s not losing $250m when all is said and done, that’s just hyperbolic. 
 

So, Spider Verse easy #1 this weekend, or will No Hard Feelings breakout? 

Nope it's not losing 250M but it's losing 150M in the best case scenario of 375M WW total.

[DTP]

Poor Elefloptal 

 

Even Brave opened to over twice as much, over a decade ago