interiorgatordecorator Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 following the Miserables doesn't even get TCP to 80 now, cant expect martin luther day to add much more than 5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borobudur Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 17 minutes ago, filmlover said: Looking at New Year's Eve 2017 (last time it fell on a Sunday), the drops were generally in the 30%+ range, so nothing too out of the ordinary. Obviously though, the moviegoing climate has changed dramatically from 2017/2018. But with the exception of PP3, the 30% range is at the low side. This year they are basically 40% (Wonka and Migration) and some are in the range of 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Borobudur said: But with the exception of PP3, the 30% range is at the low side. This year they are basically 40% (Wonka and Migration) and some are in the range of 50% I mean, again, six years ago might as well be a whole different era for moviegoing. Nowhere nearly the amount of streaming options that there are now and the pandemic caused theatrical windows to mostly collapse (nor does there seem to be an indication of that genie being forced back into the bottle in the foreseeable future, especially now that the physical media market has largely disappeared). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 (edited) 27 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said: following the Miserables doesn't even get TCP to 80 now, cant expect martin luther day to add much more than 5 million That would be a pretty bad run for the box office. It would be less money than the original TCP (1985). Not to mention Oprah saying the budget for TCP (2023) was 90M-100M. Edited January 1 by Kon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 who said something about wonka always underperforming projections? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Yeah I fail to see how Wonka could miss $200M from here. Will probably cross $225M too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Borobudur said: Brutal drop for all three WB titles, off by 1.3m each. Why do people hate going to cinema on NYE so much? They don't they are just getting ready for NYE parties. That's what people attend not movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Unrelated but the box office subreddit is terrible. It's barely even box office discussion anymore as much as it is toxic faction wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 (edited) TCP would make on the 4-day weekend less than the "true" Christmas Day. Edited January 1 by Kon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dallas said: Yeah I fail to see how Wonka could miss $200M from here. Will probably cross $225M too. Wonka also has the best PTA despite playing in the largest number of theaters. 4115 theaters for $5508 PTA vs for eg. Poor Things (800 theaters, $2818 PTA) or TCP (3203 theaters, $3664 PTA). I randomly picked one specialty (limited) release and one wide release to illustrate that Wonka is absolutely dominating even though it seems a bit underrated here. Also, for a flop, Aquaman 2 has the second best PTA ($4824) from 3787 theaters. Edited January 1 by Valonqar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 TCP is pretty much doing what I would have expected it to do prior to the pre-sale explosion. Budget was way too high, but 80M isn’t a terrible finish for a 2.5 hour adult drama/musical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Aquaman 2 will probably break even after all is said and done thanks to ancillary revenue and brand deals (cough cough, Guiness). Could be enough to justify more Aquaman content down the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Ant-Man 3 and Eternals broke even then Edited January 1 by HummingLemon496 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, HummingLemon496 said: I guess Ant-Man 3 and Eternals broke even then. We get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: We get it Actually if you use the 50/40/25 rule Ant-Man 3 make like ~6m in profit. A failure but there's like a veeeeery slim chance it unironicaly broke even. Edited January 1 by HummingLemon496 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringedmortality Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 @M37 what do you make about Wonka getting into the 200 range and how it fits into your gap theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallas Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Is Wonka still on track for $600M WW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 29 minutes ago, ringedmortality said: @M37 what do you make about Wonka getting into the 200 range and how it fits into your gap theory? The gap range is officially $225-$325 (I sometimes use $200 & $300 as shorthand) and Wonka may cross that lower threshold, but not by much. Don’t think it gets there without being the top movie choice over holidays, so even if the boundary changes, the theory behind it doesn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteryMovieMogul Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, dallas said: Aquaman 2 will probably break even after all is said and done thanks to ancillary revenue and brand deals (cough cough, Guiness). Could be enough to justify more Aquaman content down the line. The reality is, ancillaries have always been the biggest profit maker for most movies. We can argue any film actually made money on ancillaries, because it's probably true no matter what movie you bring up. Okay, maybe not films like the Miley Cyrus classic LOL. Woah, actually, LOL had a budget of $11 million and made $10.5 million, so maybe even that. That said, this iteration of Aquaman is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said: The reality is, ancillaries have always been the biggest profit maker for most movies. We can argue any film actually made money on ancillaries, because it's probably true no matter what movie you bring up. Okay, maybe not films like the Miley Cyrus classic LOL. Woah, actually, LOL had a budget of $11 million and made $10.5 million, so maybe even that. That said, this iteration of Aquaman is over. Yes, WB is not making a sequel to a poorly received box office flop (which had the holidays juicing it) and an Alice level sequel drop. The Marvels just set the bar in Atlantis Edited January 1 by HummingLemon496 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
