Speedorito Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 No big surprises but pretty good all around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, Cmasterclay said: I had several friends who know I am into box office send me the WSJ article about theaters only surviving due to complicated real estate issues. Not trying to get into another discussion about movies failing blah blah blah but the PERCEPTION from regular people is that the industry is dying it seems. Normie reasoning: MCU is dead, Hollywood doomed Spoiler They’re right of course 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, Mojoguy said: The big problem is people stopped going to see the mid budget movies. Theaters can't survive on the big event films. Theaters could survive on big event films. They can’t survive on mid budget. Both are in a grim place now though so kind of a moot point 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emoviefan Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just want to say that we are doing the theaters are dying and it's all doomed on a weekend when the big new movies are a little girl vampire movie and a Guy Ritchie WW2 movie that the studio basically dumped like they have been doing to most of their movies lately. This is following a weekend where a independent studio had their biggest opening ever and got to almost close to 30 million. Yeah the BO office is not great but people do go when the studios and indies put some effort into making their movies stand out and appeal to them. I will even say that for The Fall Guy in two weeks. If it does underwhelm that means Universal did not do the marketing job they should have considering they have the goods at least based on the early reviews. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 24 minutes ago, emoviefan said: Just want to say that we are doing the theaters are dying and it's all doomed on a weekend when the big new movies are a little girl vampire movie and a Guy Ritchie WW2 movie that the studio basically dumped like they have been doing to most of their movies lately. This is following a weekend where an independent studio had their biggest opening ever and got to almost close to 30 million. Yeah the BO office is not great but people do go when the studios and indies put some effort into making their movies stand out and appeal to them. I will even say that for The Fall Guy in two weeks. If it does underwhelm that means Universal did not do the marketing job they should have considering they have the goods at least based on the early reviews. No one is saying the industry has big problems because of this weekend’s release numbers. It’s a conversation because of the last 65 weekend’s numbers and the what we’re looking at for the next 65 weekends 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLurking Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 53 minutes ago, emoviefan said: Just want to say that we are doing the theaters are dying and it's all doomed on a weekend when the big new movies are a little girl vampire movie and a Guy Ritchie WW2 movie that the studio basically dumped like they have been doing to most of their movies lately. This is following a weekend where a independent studio had their biggest opening ever and got to almost close to 30 million. Yeah the BO office is not great but people do go when the studios and indies put some effort into making their movies stand out and appeal to them. I will even say that for The Fall Guy in two weeks. If it does underwhelm that means Universal did not do the marketing job they should have considering they have the goods at least based on the early reviews. What exactly was Universal supposed to do that they didn't? I genuinely don't get your point. It's way too much of an oversimplification to just say "yeah, well, if they marketed it better it would've performed" for everything. At some point you also have to say, yeah, well, maybe the audience just doesn't give a fuck. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 If MCU dead equate to Hollywood death when the first big Marvel movie didn't come out until 2002, then what is supporting the industry survival in between 1920-2000? That is 80 years old worth of history before first Spiderman came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emoviefan Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 24 minutes ago, Legion Again said: No one is saying the industry has big problems because of this weekend’s release numbers. It’s a conversation because of the last 65 weekend’s numbers and the what we’re looking at for the next 65 weekends I am pretty sure there was some pretty good weekends in these last 65 weekends and there will be some good weekends in the next 65. When there are movies out people want to see. I guess the point I was trying to make is it's not that people don't want to go they just need to be motivated to go and the studios are not doing a great job of that on a consistent basis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedorito Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 minutes ago, emoviefan said: I am pretty sure there was some pretty good weekends in these last 65 weekends and there will be some good weekends in the next 65. When there are movies out people want to see. I guess the point I was trying to make is it's not that people don't want to go they just need to be motivated to go and the studios are not doing a great job of that on a consistent basis. The problem is that: a) Making stuff people want to see has always been a difficult task, especially now that Hollywood is going through a lean period b) The bar for actually getting people to leave their homes to watch that stuff is so much higher than it used to be for a whole variety of reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenHunnyUrOver Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Hollywood's savior is here 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 17 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: If MCU dead equate to Hollywood death when the first big Marvel movie didn't come out until 2002, then what is supporting the industry survival in between 1920-2000? That is 80 years old worth of history before first Spiderman came out. For most of history you had low/mid budget success, nonfranchise blockbuster success, and other mega franchise success ensuring financial viability. If one of those replaced MCU then of course you could be continue to be fine (or at least, continue scraping by better — would really like at least 2-3/4 to actually be doing well), but if you’ve got 0/4… Edited April 20 by Legion Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingLemon496 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Even if DP3 is a 1.2B smash or whatever it won't stop the MCU 2025 slate from all bombing Edited April 20 by HummingLemon496 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, emoviefan said: I am pretty sure there was some pretty good weekends in these last 65 weekends and there will be some good weekends in the next 65. When there are movies out people want to see. I guess the point I was trying to make is it's not that people don't want to go they just need to be motivated to go and the studios are not doing a great job of that on a consistent basis. Absolutely there were some good weekend and there will be some good weekends, but theaters don’t need “some” they need “enough” and they definitely haven’t been getting that recently. Also agree that people will go when there are movies they want to see — the entire problem is that people don’t have enough movies they want to see anymore Edited April 20 by Legion Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenHunnyUrOver Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 13 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said: Even if DP3 is a 1.2B smash or whatever it won't stop the MCU 2025 slate from all bombing Yeah, the MCU is seriously long in the tooth at this point. It's time for a full reboot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emoviefan Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 26 minutes ago, JustLurking said: What exactly was Universal supposed to do that they didn't? I genuinely don't get your point. It's way too much of an oversimplification to just say "yeah, well, if they marketed it better it would've performed" for everything. At some point you also have to say, yeah, well, maybe the audience just doesn't give a fuck. Well maybe they don't. We will find out. They probably did not give a fuck about Edge of Tomorrow or The Nice Guys either. Two movies each one these two actors starred in that got great reviews and did not click at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Yeh solid cinemascores all around. That Guy Ritchie film one is surprising. I don’t usually like to say “looks like a streaming film” but come on. It looks like something from when Netflix first started out. So audience reception and critical reviews aren’t the reason for the low numbers. Hey at least there’s a battle for the #1 spot. Edited April 20 by Krissykins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterpepp Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I feel pretty good about the theatrical space. I liked how 2023 turned out and I really like how 2025 is shaping up. A steady stream of big product is all that's needed (and it looks like that's coming), proven already by plenty of multi-week periods from the past couple years. A normal slate of movies would have Abigail/Monkey Man/Lisa Frankenstein be the B-openers of the week, not the biggest new titles. This weekend, and the others like it this year, won't bother me. The new flicks all did about what I thought they'd do. Maybe my expectations were low? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, titanic2187 said: If MCU dead equate to Hollywood death when the first big Marvel movie didn't come out until 2002, then what is supporting the industry survival in between 1920-2000? That is 80 years old worth of history before first Spiderman came out. People knew how to make good cinema back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenHunnyUrOver Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 25 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: People knew how to make good cinema back then. It's sad how few movies nowadays really appeal to me. It feels like a lot of directors are on autopilot and then even some great movies that are being made aren't marketed well. Doesn't help that the franchise obsession has led Hollywood to have so few new bankable movie stars created in the last decade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, misterpepp said: I feel pretty good about the theatrical space. I liked how 2023 turned out and I really like how 2025 is shaping up. A steady stream of big product is all that's needed (and it looks like that's coming), proven already by plenty of multi-week periods from the past couple years. A normal slate of movies would have Abigail/Monkey Man/Lisa Frankenstein be the B-openers of the week, not the biggest new titles. This weekend, and the others like it this year, won't bother me. The new flicks all did about what I thought they'd do. Maybe my expectations were low? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We've all known and repeated for awhile that this wasn't gonna be a great box office time, but people are bored and need something to talk about so weekend melodrama is all this forum's got right now. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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