kayumanggi Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 How is it flopping in Australia?Thank you Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) At this point I dont even think a sequel to STID could still happen (or at least not any time soon): [*]1. The director is leaving; they need a new one. Fast 7 [*] [*]2. Budget for STID already reached $195M. Yet STID is struggling to the 500M+ WW range. How do you know? And even if it gets there, say 550M. It is still not that profitable. TL was less profitable and are moving with a sequel. [*] [*]3. The consecutive failures at OS box office from ST09 and STID Will be a lot of fail come your way if you are wrong. will make Paramount seriously think again about the potential of another TREK movie. What is the point of making a $200M budgeted movie if it doesnot sell at OS markets nowadays? Really? [*] [*]4. ST09 got almost everything right yet it still took four years for a sequel to happen. That was Abrams. Guess Avatar wasn't successful then, right? Thus ... Lets wait til it gets release before calling it a bomb. Edited May 11, 2013 by Neo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 600m WW seems like a good target now. That's always been a good target for it -- tripling ST09's OS gross has always seemed pretty absurd to me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 OS? Do we have numbers for anywhere yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Fire deep I think is insane at times. If this does just a little better then the first there will be a sequel. The brand is too valuable. And yes they pushed for growth overseas will see eventually what it gets and what it delivers in the US. If worse comes to worse just make it cheaper.I remember when Trek was had the largest budget of all time. What did they do next produced on for less the. Third the best Trek film to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 OS? Do we have numbers for anywhere yet? Per Rth: 1.1M in Aus, £1.5m in UK Also, good increase over ST09 in Germany as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Fire deep I think is insane at times. If this does just a little better then the first there will be a sequel. The brand is too valuable. And yes they pushed for growth overseas will see eventually what it gets and what it delivers in the US. If worse comes to worse just make it cheaper.I remember when Trek was had the largest budget of all time. What did they do next produced on for less the. Third the best Trek film to date. Okay, a sequel will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Lightning Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It's not flopping here. It's about the same in attendance (or slightly below). It's just not increasing. Will still have an increase in BO easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Still should cross 500M WW... Would be a very good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Not every sequel is going to explode DMC/Skyfall/IM3 style and those 3 had extra something (Jack Sparrow/50th Anniversary, TA Effect) that pushed them over the edge of reasonable increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 600 WW for a trek movie is success considering how tough it is to sell it OS.ST09 in some countries were promoted as a disaster film lol I think the most famous one was tor Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Considering how much Paramount has pushed it, its oversea performance is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yeah. Like we already know its total gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 ST2 could have broken out, but since IM3 broke out already, the chances became very little. No, it would not have broken out even if there was no IM3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 No, it would not have broken out even if there was no IM3.Neither you or I can prove one way or another. But IM3 breaking out definitely took out some money from ST2's potential, that is just plain Economics. How much is the only question.For instance, In Germany, one of the few markets where IM3 had rather moderate gross, ST2 is doing pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 You are just trying to rationalize your failing when it comes to predicting Trek. It is not big OS, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Rationalize? Lol..... you really got much to learn if you think that two closely released movies catering to similar audiences don't affect each other's box office. :)Still......it is still very early. Let's wait a bit before declaring it a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 They effect each other but not to the point where one would have made twice as much without competition, especially if that competition is in its 3rd week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I am not saying double..... but IM3 taking out so much out of audience's purses clearly means they have got less to spend on ST2 now. It's not unreasonable to think that IM3 would have affected ST2's potential by, say, 50m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 That's pushing it. There's tons of competition every week in the summer. Par for the course. Even what it'll make plus $50m is way less than what it needs for your club to have a chance at succeeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
