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Minions | 7.10.2015 | Crosses 1 BILLION Worldwide. Beats Toy Story 3 on the all-time chart.

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It's 20 Euro monthly in UK/Ireland. ;)

 

The point is - there are still (almost) always seats left for most shows, and half of them are always half-empty. So this is a reasonable model. How does it pay the studios - I do not know.

it is 19 Euro monthly now..lol. They caught up with UK price

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://www.pathe.nl/&prev=search

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If you are a subscriber and see 20 movies a month, it means you pay exactly 1 euro per movie to the theatre. So how much would be left for the studio?

it doesn't work like that, read my previous post. regardless of how many tickets you get, the cinema will still pay the same flat fee to the studios. For some users this means the cinema is paying the studio much more than the customer is paying the cinema, but in the bigger picture it works out well for the cinema as the majority of subscribers don't see 20 movies a month.

 

if the £3 figure is correct, then at current prices, the customer would need to see 6 films per month in order for them to actually make the cinema lose money. however, the way the scheme works in terms of studio costs isn't public information so I may be wrong.

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it doesn't work like that, read my previous post. regardless of how many tickets you get, the cinema will still pay the same flat fee to the studios. For some users this means the cinema is paying the studio much more than the customer is paying the cinema, but in the bigger picture it works out well for the cinema as the majority of subscribers don't see 20 movies a month.

 

Well, OK, that is some nice socialism then.

 

If that is so, they must have hated me, because I was seeing like 60 movies each month :)

 

However, I am aware that most subscribers lacked the time or desire to see more than 1 or 2 movies a month, even less. Maybe that is why it all works.

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You only need to watch 2 films per month in order to justify the subscription fee, so I suspect a great many subscribers do indeed only watch a few movies, as it still saves them a decent amount of money. 

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Minions is longer than 75 minutes w/o credits (I think about 82), but it's definitely DTV-quality material. Once you get past the opening, which full of unique design work (and the traditionally animated opening credits sequence is a delight), everything kind of plunges. It's rocky, and then you hit the third act of the film which reeks 100% of a 90's direct-to-video film.

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There's a service in the states call MoviePass, but it's $30 a month and you have to be locked in for a year I believe. You can only watch one movie in a 24 hour period (not day) and can only see movies once.

 

Last one, if true, is a deal-breaker.

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Last one, if true, is a deal-breaker.

 

It looks like it is true as this is from their Terms and Conditions

 

27.2. A valid MoviePass subscription entitles you to: (1) see one 2D film every 24 hours through MoviePass; (2) see a 2D film title one time through MoviePass; and (3) a single seat, depending on availability, for a 2D film showing open to the general public. This excludes premium showings such as: 3D films, IMAX, 4D, XD and specialty theaters. MoviePass access is available every day of the week, subject to the theater being open, inventory, and usage

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This movie will be a huge hit worldwide. More than Inside Out, I wager.

Despicable Me 2 outgrossed all Pixar movies OS and WW except toy story 3, so yeah, that is kind of a given.

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I dont see why a subscription based model for movie theatres can`t work. Kinda like what Netflix does.

 

Lets say that AMC for example now charges $16 per month and in exchange you can watch all the movies you want in any format you want (2D, 3D, 4DX, D-BOX, Etc.). You would only have to watch two movies a month to justify your subscription, the good thing is that this way you can go to the movie every weekend and save yourselve a lot of dollars.

 

Another good thing about this is that if for example Regal has like 30 million suscribers that pays $16 per month that means they are getting $480 million dollars every month. That is a third of the US box office earned in the month of June so they still can pay studios their respective fee and still get revenue from this new model (of course the movie snack consession will still charge as always).

 

And of course you have to get a ticket for the specific movie you want to watch (If you can select the seats at the box office) but with your subscription pass you already covered the price.

 

Its a viable bussiness but we would loose the Box Office Tracking aspect of it,

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Yeah, box office tracking would be less precise, but BO tracking isn't 100% accurate in the first place (there are rereleases, double features, etc. all the time that earn money but don't get tracked), and ticket sales are only one part of a film's moneymaking lifespan.

 

It may take a while to get off the ground, but it's become a big success in a short space of time over here, I'm sure the same would happen in the US. These schemes are growing every day.

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The other problem I see is that you cant bring in your couple or friends unless they are suscribed too. Maybe subscriptions should be valid to bring in at least on person while others who dont have it or simply dont go to the movies that often pays the traditional way.

 

I am sure there are ways to solve this.

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Apparently the film is 75 minutes without credits. I've heard a lot of "feels like a DTV movie" comments from people who've seen it.

  

I don't see how the film could possibly be 75 minutes when full runtime is 91 mins. It does not have 15 minutes of credits. I don't know how anyone could say it feels like a direct-to-TV movie given the animation quality (some of the scenes in the history timeline at the start are really impressive in particular). Each to their own though.

  

The only way I can see it being 75 minutes long is if you exclude the narrated opening. Regardless, I have seen the movie and can categorically say that the credits are not 15 minutes long.

The runtime for Minions without credits is 1:23:47, so 83 minutes.

That is short, but Inside Out isn't THAT much longer clocking in at 1:35:17, which includes the short. So Inside Out is probably right about 1:30 or so without credits or the short.

However, they all have to bow to the current champion, The Gallows, which weighs in at a paltry 1:17:14!

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The runtime for Minions without credits is 1:23:47, so 83 minutes.

That is short, but Inside Out isn't THAT much longer clocking in at 1:35:17, which includes the short. So Inside Out is probably right about 1:30 or so without credits or the short.

However, they all have to bow to the current champion, The Gallows, which weighs in at a paltry 1:17:14!

thanks for the confirmation. 84 minutes is standard for a family film so I dont know what some people are complaining about  :rolleyes:

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