China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[charlie Jatinder]

WTF they were thinking? The only market in world that may give them some money and they are having racist jokes on them.

 

[Gavin Feng]

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Date	Title	3-Day Opening	Lifetime	Country	Studio & Distributor
2020/12/18	Wonder Woman 1984	$60-70 million	$125-135 million	US	Warner Bros. & IQiYi Pictures
2020/12/18	The Rescue	$35-45 million	$70-80 million	China	Bona Film Group
2020/12/24	I Remember	$25-35 million*	$45-55 million	China	Gravity Pictures & CMC Inc.
2020/12/24	Shock Wave 2	$65-85 million*	$130-150 million	China	Universe Entertainment & Ali Pictures
2020/12/25	Yin-Yang Master I	$30-35 million	$48-60 million	China	Shanghai Film Group & HeHe Pictures
2020/12/25	Soul	$3-5 million	$12-15 million	US	Walt Disney Studios
2020/12/31	A Little Red Flower	$90-110 million*	$225-245 million	China	HG Entertainment & Lian Ray Pictures
2020/12/31	Warm Hug	$45-55 million*	$80-90 million	China	Huayi Brothers & Ali Pictures
2021/1/8	Fox Hunt	$6-9 million	$15-20 million	China	Shanghai Film Group & Maoyan Movie
2021/1/15	The Soul	$10-15 million	$35-45 million	China	Zhong He Qian Cheng & Ali Pictures
		* 4-day opening

 

 

Wonder Woman 1984

- I revise down my expectation again, but it's still much higher than what pre-sale has suggested. Yes, numbers don't lie. And I insist on a basic line I think it shouldn't be crossed. No matter right or wrong, I'm going to reflect what really happed on recent Hollywood titles. So would those studios.

 

A Little Red Flower

- Far ahead of what I expected, according to pre-sale performance. It has a shot of making $25M from 6 hours previews on Dec.31. The midnights/previews records are held by Avengers: Endgame's $28.3M(mignights) and Wolf Warrior sequel's $15.2M(8pm previews).

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Gavin Feng

[charlie Jatinder]

I feel it hard to see if WW84 cross $70mn in full run. 🙄

[LPLC]

I don't know too much about it, but does Detective Chinatown 3 have a chance of exceeding 100 million admissions in China ?

[peludo]

4 minutes ago, LPLC said:

I don't know too much about it, but does Detective Chinatown 3 have a chance of exceeding 100 million admissions in China ?

According InsideKino, Detective Chinatown 2 sold 87 million admissions.

 

https://www.insidekino.de/BO/Titanic.htm

 

It was not too far of that number. And that considering that it was not the biggest film of the CNY in 2018. Operation Red Sea was released the same day and sold 92 million (always according the same source, InsideKino). If the anticipation is so high I guess it has that chance. 

[Legion Again]

The WW84 conversation should move over to here now, presales portion of the run is over.      
 

Rescue has a 9.2 on Maoyan right now, but not sure if that’s real or faked.

[Gavin Feng]

1 hour ago, WandaLegion said:

The WW84 conversation should move over to here now, presales portion of the run is over.      
 

Rescue has a 9.2 on Maoyan right now, but not sure if that’s real or faked.

Maoyan Movie, the co-pro of The Rescue, controlled the audience score by its own ticket platform.

 

Not only the referee but also athlete

[Gavin Feng]

many who saw midnights felt they were deceived --

 

not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. 

too long with 150 mins

endless talking instead of fighting.

director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic

 

just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that.

[charlie Jatinder]

WW84 8.1 on Taopiaopiao.

 

At 10:00 AM, just added ¥2mn to pre-sales at midnight as compared to ¥4.2mn of TENET. Let's see how walk-ins are in the day but I have really bad feeling about it.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[Liiviig 1998]

Don't think this movie was going to be that well received based on its tone and nature.

[XXR vs XXR]

40 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

many who saw midnights felt they were deceived --

 

not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. 

too long with 150 mins

endless talking instead of fighting.

director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic

 

just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that.

 

Black Widow is on her way to give the people what they want!

 

[cax16]

Thanks for all the info guys, I guess this isn’t making much in China lol. 

[Legion Again]

On 12/14/2020 at 11:46 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

The absolute low is perhaps $20mn weekend right. May be $35mn full run.

Absolute low transforms into baseline expectation now.   
 

If it was like 8.9 but didn’t do much because of lack of marketing and piracy in a week that would be a lot better for WW3’s prospects here. As is, WW3 will probably still need to work for the Billie mark since it might not match the first in China. Or maybe it comes out in 2024, gets 9.3, and makes like $300 here — don’t want to get too far ahead of myself for such a far future event.

[Gavin Feng]

Some think piracy affected its pre-sale. Maybe it did. But how to explain Mulan, a movie that debuted a week after piracy leaked, could even do higher than WE84 in final pre-sale. And Mulan only had three days selling ticket in advance.

 

Marketing and distribution fucked up.

[Menor the Destroyer]

More "light comedy" superhero films seem to have trouble in China. Somehow Ant-Man avoids that though. 

Edited December 18, 2020 by Menor

[Gavin Feng]

5 minutes ago, Menor said:

More "light comedy" superhero films seem to have trouble in China. Somehow Ant-Man avoids that though. 

Many comedy-type Hollywood blockbusters are too American style, including Spider-Man: Homecoming. But those jokes in Ant-Man could even make local audience laugh. I really appreciate that business talent.

[cax16]

2 hours ago, Gavin Feng said:

many who saw midnights felt they were deceived --

 

not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. 

too long with 150 mins

endless talking instead of fighting.

director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic

 

just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that.

These comments from the audience are definitely disappointing after you mentioned critics seemed to like the movie but in the end it’s the audience who decides how much a movie will make.

 

I still stand by the fact that marketing for this movie has been awful everywhere other then the US where it’s premiering on HBOmax.

 

[charlie Jatinder]

57 minutes ago, WandaLegion said:

Absolute low transforms into baseline expectation now.   
 

If it was like 8.9 but didn’t do much because of lack of marketing and piracy in a week that would be a lot better for WW3’s prospects here. As is, WW3 will probably still need to work for the Billie mark since it might not match the first in China. Or maybe it comes out in 2024, gets 9.3, and makes like $300 here — don’t want to get too far ahead of myself for such a far future event.

I think WW3 won't come in next 2-3 years atleast. By then expect streaming to take over. Don't think it will do billie.

 

Billie will be reserved for Asia strong content I guess, given they are given some window.

[charlie Jatinder]

34 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

Some think piracy affected its pre-sale. Maybe it did. But how to explain Mulan, a movie that debuted a week after piracy leaked, could even do higher than WE84 in final pre-sale. And Mulan only had three days selling ticket in advance.

 

Marketing and distribution fucked up.

I said in WW84 INT thread that even Middle East pre-sales are low, where piracy shouldn't have that big impact.

[charlie Jatinder]

At 14:00 CST,  has grossed $3.25mn in China. Full day should go for $5.8mn Approx including Thursday previews. Initial audience reports are mixed. Weekend under $20mn is a real possibility.

Edited December 18, 2020 by charlie Jatinder