John Marston Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Okay so Mr Marston. Why do people pick apart TDKR, but not TDK.Explain that one for us?I think it is because TDK kept people more engaged throughout thanTDKR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think it is because TDK kept people more engaged throughout thanTDKRSo if TDKR kept someone better engaged during the film than the Avengers, you don't think the silly stuff would start to grind in that movie despite its tone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 but I don't have this love affair type of signature about Joss WhedonThen why do you Jerk off to Avengers everyday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Then why do you Jerk off to Avengers everyday?Because Scarlett is ridiculously hot in leather. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Okay so Mr Marston. Why do people pick apart TDKR, but not TDK. Explain that one for us? The Dark Knight does get picked apart, and it has been picked apart since 2008. I think Rises takes more heat because it was coming off a massive hit that a lot of people loved, whereas The Dark Knight was coming off of what was "merely" a very well-liked reboot. Expectations were so ridiculously high that there was bound to be disappointment and viewers ready to pick it apart for not being exactly the movie they envisioned it would be. In response to the direction this thread has gone in: I really, really, really like The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers, but I think it's silly to suggest that either of them (or any movie, for that matter) should be exempt from being picked and pulled apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Ah, BKB, money doesn't mean quality at all.If so, Transformers and Twilight would be among the best films of all time. No one in this world agrees with that besides baumer. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Ah, BKB, money doesn't mean quality at all.If so, Transformers and Twilight would be among the best films of all time. No one in this world agrees with that besides baumer.I liked both series, but I'd be the first to say they were mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Ah, BKB, money doesn't mean quality at all.If so, Transformers and Twilight would be among the best films of all time. No one in this world agrees with that besides baumer.Apparently, when compares TA to other films that grossed less, money actually means quality. But when comparing to Avatar and Titanic, money is suddenly meaningless.The biased always finds a way to be biased. Edited December 12, 2012 by vc2002 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) The Dark Knight does get picked apart, and it has been picked apart since 2008. I think Rises takes more heat because it was coming off a massive hit that a lot of people loved, whereas The Dark Knight was coming off of what was "merely" a very well-liked reboot. Expectations were so ridiculously high that there was bound to be disappointment and viewers ready to pick it apart for not being exactly the movie they envisioned it would be. I disagree, expectations among the internet crowd were very high for TDK due in part to the excellent marketing campaign, the highly popular first movie and of course, tragically, Heath Ledgers death. Movies don't open to 200M or so without a shit ton of hype behind them. And yes, people do pick that movie apart, but not in the same way as TDKR. Baumer didn't write a post back in 2008 saying that there were 50 better movies than TDK including such amazing films as the original twilight. The reasons he gave for TDKR sucking were based around the plot not making any sense ( I disagree with him, but this is his opinion, that is fine). But you can make the case that TDK has as big if not bigger WTF moments then its sequel. For example, Baumer says it doesn't make sense that Batman can find his way back from the pit to Gotham. That isn't a problem for me. We know Bruce Wayne is a resource and well trained guy who probably has contacts all over the world who can help him out and we (the audience) didn't need to see the exact how as to how it was done. The movie was long enough already. What is more of a problem for me is explaining how in the fuck did the Joker wire up a hospital with explosives, or two ferries with explosives, when people were already on high alert from previous bombings and threats with NO-ONE noticing. That seems like the kind of logical flaw that would ruin TDKR for him, but for whatever reason gets a pass for TDK. Ultimately what I'm trying to say is that if TDKR did not work for you, thats fine, but try to think deeper about your criticisms and why it didn't entertain you like TDK did. Edited December 12, 2012 by Phil in the Skyfall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't need a movie to jerk off to everyday.. I have my girlfriend to take care of those needs... Fair enough, just please don't have any children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Fair enough, just please don't have any children.I still jerk off when I'm getting it regularly....especially when Scarlett is in tight leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Interesting list Baumer. While I don't agree with you in the slightest (TDKR is only beaten by Intouchables for me), your opinion is always an interesting one to read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I loved the Dark Knight Rises, and I thought the dark knight was over rated so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Ah, BKB, money doesn't mean quality at all.If so, Transformers and Twilight would be among the best films of all time. No one in this world agrees with that besides baumer.And Harry Potter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) I don't need a movie to jerk off to everyday.. I have my girlfriend to take care of those needs... That's funny, I have your girlfriend to take care of those needs as well. Edited December 13, 2012 by Jessie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 That's funny, I have you're girlfriend to take care of those needs as well. Shit, she told me I was the only other one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Shit, she told me I was the only other one!Did she say that before or after you paid her? Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) I don't need a movie to jerk off to everyday.. I have my girlfriend to take care of those needs... So what's the name of your right hand? Edited December 13, 2012 by DAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Make it 51...saw Hitchcock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Any discussions of flaws of TDKR can be discussed in this thread. Please don't make new threads for another article that lists this movie's flaws, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
