BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[terrestrial]

22 minutes ago, el sid said:

Bavaria. Here it is ok. But I heard about the storms in other regions. Problem is this will continue over the next weeks, I mean one or several regions always will be affected by snow storms, minus temperatures and so on. So I just hope the weather has no bigger influence than „normal“ for a winter weekend.

Bavaria as well. But on the top of a hill, not that far away from the Alps. We'll get up to 90km/h this night, last weekend it was ~ 70km/h +/-

 

Looking at the map of the Unwetterzentrale I think there might be reason for some people not to drive a car, or?

 

Not sure if this will work (it might change as the source will change)

 

[terrestrial]

I just realised they have a map for Greenwich to MEZ and some extra too (do we have a kind of Europe thread? Weather impact thing?)

 

Edited January 13, 2017 by terrestrial

[IndustriousAngel]

Whew, just been shoveling snow for more than an hour ...

On the BO front, it might happen we'll have the same top2 as last week, Rogue One Great Wall and La La Land (GW in front atm) are fighting for places 2-4, comedies Demain tout commence and Why Him are fighting for #5/6 it seems

Edited January 14, 2017 by IndustriousAngel

[George Parr]

2nd trend seems to be mostly identical to the first one when it comes to the top movies. Only The Great Wall is down from 160 to 150k, while Vaiana is up from 110 to 125k

 

Movies that didn't get mentioned in the first trend:

 

Vier gegen die Bank 75k

Sing 75k

Assassin's Creed 75k

Ballerina 60k

Bob der Streuner 50k

Wbd Hartmanns 45k

Fantastic Beasts 25k

...

[terrestrial]

To me its  funny to observe the changing weather on those maps without doing anything. And it does give a bit of impression where to expect what. I am in the 'slippery roads' area still. Acc weather reports tomorrow will be even more snow for us.

[IndustriousAngel]

Final estimates from insidekino.de:

1. Passengers - 225k (-45%)

2. The Great Wall - 160k

3/4: Demain tout commence / Moana with 145k each

5/6: Why Him (depends on number of previews) or Rogue One

[el sid]

21 hours ago, terrestrial said:

To me its  funny to observe the changing weather on those maps without doing anything. And it does give a bit of impression where to expect what. I am in the 'slippery roads' area still. Acc weather reports tomorrow will be even more snow for us.

Yes, it did indeed change :). It looks even worse now and not very encouraging.
This is the first winter where I really pay attention which impact the weather has on our box office, so I'm curious myself :).

[terrestrial]

7 hours ago, el sid said:

Yes, it did indeed change :). It looks even worse now and not very encouraging.
This is the first winter where I really pay attention which impact the weather has on our box office, so I'm curious myself :).

I work most Sundays, usually starting either at midday or later, today was even a bit earlier, drove back starting shortly after 6 in the evening, needed ~ again trice the time of what I usually need. But the streets I use are rather small regional ones, of the sort that get as the latest a winter service.

And yes, the map looks worse, there seem for the moment to be not one little area with normal conditions left.

[IndustriousAngel]

Final numbers have Great Wall at 170k admissions, a bit better than feared - still not very good for a wannabe blockbuster.

 

In Austria, comedy weekend: "Why Him" took the lead with surprising 40k admissions, "Demain tout commence" at #2 with 21k (down 28% from last week, but it had a much better start than in Germany, so no big expansion). LaLaLand #3 and Passengers only #4 - it's rare that Austria's BO is that different from the German one!

Edited January 16, 2017 by IndustriousAngel

[Dingdong123]

On 1/15/2017 at 6:07 PM, IndustriousAngel said:

Final estimates from insidekino.de:

1. Passengers - 225k (-45%)

2. The Great Wall - 160k

3/4: Demain tout commence / Moana with 145k each

5/6: Why Him (depends on number of previews) or Rogue One

 

Is that a good drop for Moana or what? Is 2 million admissions still attainable?

[IndustriousAngel]

2mil would be possible without competition but now there are two upcoming movies aimed exclusively at young girls - canadian/french CGI Ballerina (US release title "Leap!") and the week after, german horse-com Wendy - and while both get more or less critically panned, they will take quite a bite out of Moana's audience I suspect.

[Fullbuster]

How was 2016 in Germany in the end?

[IndustriousAngel]

4 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

How was 2016 in Germany in the end?

Not a good year, but at least the strong last quarter saved it from being a total disaster, and now 2017 seems to continue with good numbers.

[Fullbuster]

2 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Not a good year, but at least the strong last quarter saved it from being a total disaster, and now 2017 seems to continue with good numbers.

 

That's great then I guess SW8 will be the highest-grossing movie of the year

[George Parr]

1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

2mil would be possible without competition but now there are two upcoming movies aimed exclusively at young girls - canadian/french CGI Ballerina (US release title "Leap!") and the week after, german horse-com Wendy - and while both get more or less critically panned, they will take quite a bite out of Moana's audience I suspect.

 

Ballerina has already started last weekend, has it not?

It had around 60k admissions, including previews.

 

 

Episode VIII being the highest grossing movie should be a given, though I think things will be a whole lot closer when it comes to admissions. It should definately drop quite a bit from the 9m TFA had, and who knows how much Despicable Me 3 will do (part 2 had only around 3.7m, but Minions almost 7m). Not sure what else could get there, maybe Beauty & the Beast. Jungle Book fell rather flat in Germany, but I don't think the same will happen to BatB. There is also the 5th POTC movie, a franchise that has always done well here, even if the 4th one had already dropped a bit. All in all, I'd still see Episode VIII ahead at this point, but if it only gets into the 6-7 million range (II and III had 5.8 and 5.6m), things could possibly become interesting.

Edited January 16, 2017 by George Parr

[IndustriousAngel]

22 minutes ago, George Parr said:

 

Ballerina has already started last weekend, has it not?

It had around 60k admissions, including previews.

 

Thanks, I've overlooked that one - just read some reviews today and thought it was only previews uintil now

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Passengers	226.858	601	377	751.045	7.765.187	-45	2
2	The Great Wall	171.680	501	343	171.680	1.964.335	-	1
3	Demain tout commence	150.618	340	443	393.217	3.292.505	-16	2
4	Moana	145.763	655	223	1.460.932	11.482.911	-46	4
5	La La Land	138.298	115	1.203	160.424	1.420.859	-	1
6	Why Him?	138.225	366	378	165.709	1.322.374	-	1
7	Rogue One	135.176	592	228	3.699.139	41.586.724	-57	5
8	Sing	96.227	713	135	2.095.968	16.743.968	-55	6
9	Vier gegen die Bank	87.482	660	133	989.745	8.041.028	-54	4
10	Assassin's Creed	73.399	548	134	881.158	9.306.750	-57	3
11	Willkommen bei den Hartmanns	56.164	535	105	3.378.880	27.237.607	-49	11
12	Ballerina	52.854	355	149	58.637	421.916	-	1
13	A Streetcat Named Bob	48.369	201	241	60.641	483.787	-	1
14	Feuerwehrmann Sam - Achtung Außerirdische	48.289	266	182	121.233	766.949	-34	2
15	Fantastic Beasts	34.463	301	114	3.383.190	33.598.480	-61	9
16	Die Blumen von Gestern	25.992	86	302	30.850	245.339	-	1
17	Paula - Mein Leben soll ein Fest sein	19.795	165	120	193.120	1.516.125	-29	5
18	Calgi Cengi Ikimiz	15.267	60	254	48.264	442.642	-45	2
19	Allied	11.368	182	62	245.660	2.061.490	-69	4
20	Hell or High Water	10.869	102	107	29.488	185.685	-	1

 

Not as good as the last one, but still a good weekend. Among openers, The Great Wall disappointed a bit, while Why Him? was within expectations, and La La Land much better than expected - with a PTA of >1200, distributors must be crying in hindsight for not giving it a wider release.

With that many openers, holdovers were bound to suffer, drops were hard across the chart with the exception of Demain tout commence, but even that one dropped despite a 58% expansion in theaters.

 

Next weekend: xXx - Return of Xander Cage is the top opener, I don't know if it can make it to 500k for the weekend but #1 for the weekend is guaranteed. Collateral Beauty will not be a hit, the times when Will Smith was a draw are long past, I don't expect more than 100k admissions. For young children, the 2nd Ritter Rost adaption gets released - should make the Top10, too. Smaller releases are Manchester by the Sea and Personal Shopper - frankly, the market seems mighty crowded these days, especially with La La Land getting at least double the theaters of this week and a chance at the Top3.

[IndustriousAngel]

afterthought while looking through bookings for the next days ... while xXx is selling a little better than Great Wall last week, it's not that far ahead. Might be the next not-so-blockbustery wannabe blockbuster.

[el sid]

Same here. xXx3 has to improve a lot in the next hours or tomorrow to reach 500k admissions. By the look of it at the moment I would say it's lucky to reach 300k.

[Giesi]

So what are everybody's predictions for the top hits of 2017? Will SW8 be without a doubt the #1 film? Is BatB the first Disney life-action remake to really break out? Can Pirates 5 stop the downward spiral of oblivion?