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Market evolutionRevenue (M€) 2001 616,42 2002 625,90 2003 639,43 2004 691,60 2005 634,95 2006 636,16 2007 643,74 2008 619,29 2009 671,04 2010 662,31 2011 635,85 2012 614,20 2013 506,30 2014 518,17 Admissions 2001 146,80 2002 140,71 2003 137,47 2004 143,93 2005 127,65 2006 121,65 2007 116,93 2008 107,81 2009 109,99 2010 101,60 2011 98,34 2012 94,16 2013 78,69 2014 87,99 Films with more admissions 1. Titanic: 11,265,5372. Avatar: 9,535,3063. E.T. The Extraterrestrial: 8,144,6444. Ocho apellidos vascos: 7,600,000 (in cinemas)5. Doctor Zhivago: 7,257,5506. Fellowship of the Ring: 7,041,0397. Star Wars: 6,900,8688. Return of the King: 6,812,1599. The Sixth Sense: 6,762,48010. El Padrecito: 6,595,454 Spanish films with more admissions 8 Apellidos vascos 7.600.000 (in cinemas)The others 6.410.561The impossible 6.124.264Torrente 2 5.321.969Mortadelo y Filemon 4.985.983The Orphanage 4.420.636The sea inside 4.099.442Torrente 3 3.575.759Agora 3.492.572Alatriste 3.182.491Tadeo Jones 2.757.670 Spanish films with more revenue in € post 2000 0 8 Apellidos vascos UIP 2014 1 Lo Imposible Warner 2012 42.386.170 €2 Los Otros Warner 2001 27.254.163 €3 El Orfanato Warner 2007 25.061.450 €4 Gran aventura Mortadelo y Filemón Warner 2003 22.847.730 €5 Torrente 2: misión en Marbella Lola 2001 22.142.170 €6 Agora Fox 2009 21.391.200 €7 Mar adentro Warner 2004 19.837.473 €8 Torrente 4: lethal crisis Warner 2011 19.355.560 €9 Las aventuras de Tadeo Jones Paramount 2012 18.197.530 €10Torrente 3: The Protector UIP 2005 18.168.925 € Hollywood films with more revenue Post 2000 1 Avatar Fox 2009 77.029.000 €2 TLOTR: The return of the ring Aurum 2003 32.932.000 €3 TLOTR: The fellowship of the ring Aurum 2001 31.331.000 €4 TLOTR: The two towers Aurum 2002 29.793.000 €5 PotC: Dead man`s chest Disney 2006 28.272.300 €6 Shrek 2 UIP 2004 28.207.550 €7 Harry Potter Philosophers stone Warner 2001 27.691.320 €8 Da Vinci`s code Sony 2006 26.782.400 €9 Toy Story 3 Disney 2010 24.985.360 €10 Up Disney 2009 24.922.500 € Hollywood films with more admissions post 2000 1 Avatar Fox 2009 9.535.3002 TLOTR: The fellowship of the ring Aurum 2001 7.041.0003 TLOTR: The return of the ring Aurum 2003 6.812.1604 TLOTR: The two towers Aurum 2002 6.432.0005 Harry Potter Philosophers stone Warner 2001 6.312.8006 Shrek 2 UIP 2004 6.079.1507 PotC: Dead man`s chest Disney 2006 5.496.0008 Spider-Man Sony 2002 5.249.5009 Harry Potter Chamber of the secrets Warner 2002 5.217.65010 Da Vinci`s Code Sony 2006 5.072.000

This is definitely one of the most consistent franchise in terms of quality. Not sure how it will fare at the boxoffice. Maybe 450+ or 500+ depending on overseas.

Specifically, what aspect of the teaser was embarrassing? Now I'm seeing the boxoffice subreddit claim Sonic 3 will make $250 million more than Sonic 2 because of Mufasa.

From Reddit (r/boxoffice) I've heard it's 6 months and that they're basically shooting a whole other movie (but this isn't the Cap 4 thread and I don't wanna get points so I'll stop now)

Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Chantal im Märchenland 253.702 689 368 2.066.712 20.776.890 +8 4 2 Back to Black 116.088 580 200 245.342 2.587.767 +38 2 3 Kung Fu Panda 4 102.628 678 151 1.531.058 14.132.511 +59 6 4 Godzilla x Kong 90.019 560 161 448.234 5.097.058 -6 3 5 Civil War 77.167 412 187 100.027 1.014.983 - 1 6 Dune 2 65.489 447 147 2.981.062 36.835.189 -5 8 7 Abigail 34.971 315 111 35.815 377.819 - 1 8 Les As de la jungle 2 27.973 369 76 91.331 697.017 +276 4 9 Morgen ist auch noch ein Tag 27.874 168 166 114.075 1.080.992 +29 3 10 Ghostbusters 5 27.455 426 64 552.275 5.323.821 +4 5 11 Le Dernier Jaguar 25.896 396 65 1.073.648 8.459.244 +150 12 12 The First Omen 24.725 370 67 74.137 771.556 -23 2 13 Migration 20.949 308 68 2.372.524 20.608.683 +168 18 14 The Zone of Interest 20.131 365 55 780.685 7.385.751 +32 8 15 Andrea lässt sich scheiden 18.719 181 103 83.230 784.209 +36 3 16 Coup de chance 16.887 96 176 35.536 337.069 +56 2 17 Cocorico 16.013 332 48 256.849 2.436.120 +38 5 18 Paw Patrol Easter Special 14.649 299 49 146.895 770.887 +158 4 19 Les Petites victoires 14.583 106 138 17.303 155.909 - 1 - MET: La Rondine 12.812 184 70 12.812 388.543 1 20 One Life 10.785 212 51 107.440 993.880 +31 4 Winter is back, and admissions went up - fine overall weekend even if there was no big opener; Chantal passed 2mil total, Kung Fu Panda 4 1,5mil - nice! I haven't yet got Austria's actuals but the weekend should have played out in a very similar way since weather conditions were the same. Next weekend: Once more, no big openers - Challengers as well as Arthur the King have very low presales, and with weather turning better, expect bad news from the boxoffice … well, Dune2 should hit 3mil total, that's probably next week's highlight! edit: Now Austria's numbers are online; weekend was a bit better than in Germany; KFP4 has now crossed 200k

I'm a new moderator of this thread started in 2012 by ajde If you want to know how Poland Box Office works, first you have to know that the history of box office here has 4 phases: 1) before WW2 - no numbers, no data - the country was new, just from 1918 as a sovereign nation; 2) just after the 2nd World War (1945-1949) - data are only from local, USSR and Czechoslovakia movies (but movies from other countries were in cinemas); 3) from 1950-1989 - time under Soviet power, cinema was one of the best entertainment here and maybe only one place when people can see what's behind Iron Curtin - movies from RFN, France or the USA were postponed about 2 years but most of them were distributed here. In TV we had only one then two channels with propaganda from the government and that's it. That is why during that time in some years adm. of the year was like over 7 times bigger than population! 4) modern era after 1989 year - 1989 year was a year of political changes, first democratic elections and change from socialism to capitalism, in that year cinemas were more empty because of strikes etc. and cinemas started to became private rather than government's, TV was free from propaganda and some new channels were added. That's why people started to spend time in homes more often. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ALL TIME CHARTS (based on INSIDEKINO and BOXOFFICEowy ZAWRÓT GŁOWY) The most successful films of all time in gross (lc) since 1989 No. PLN (lc) Movie 1 105,261,308 Clergy (Kler) 2 105,089,063 Ogniem i mieczem 3 88,329,136 Avatar 4 82,839,843 Pan Tadeusz 5 69,045,592 Quo Vadis 6 65,204,800 Listy do M. 3 7 62,767,218 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 8 58,522,569 Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety 9 54,638,129 Shrek Forever 10 54,004,780 Listy do M. 2 The most successful films of all time in gross ($) since 1989 [est.] No. USD ($) Movie 1 $28,274,637 Clergy (Kler) 2 $26,366,071 Ogniem i mieczem 3 $26,135,805 Avatar 4 $20,879,608 Pan Tadeusz 5 $18,484,522 Lejdis 6 $18,014,551 Shrek the Third 7 $17,725,599 Listy do M. 3 8 $17,262,308 Shrek Forever 9 $16,863,883 Quo Vadis 10 $16,685,439 Star Wars: The Force Awakens The most successful films since in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 7,154,579 Ogniem i mieczem 2 6,168,344 Pan Tadeusz 3 5,198,730 Clergy (Kler) 4 4,302,445 Quo Vadis 5 3,766,267 Avatar 6 3,650,536 Titanic 7 3,462,021 The Passion of the Christ 8 3,395,226 Shrek 2 9 3,352,805 Shrek the Third 10 3,009,971 Listy do M. 3 The best OW ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 935,357 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 2 834,479 Fifty Shades of Grey 3 793,731 Shrek the Third 4 789,568 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 5 767,519 Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety (PL) 6 736,812 Listy do M. 3 (PL) 7 711,906 Botoks (PL) 8 693,563 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies 9 658,746 Polityka (PL) 10 628,625 Kobiety mafii (PL) The best 2nd weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 772,316 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 2 524,455 Planeta Singli (PL) 3 495,990 Shrek the Third 4 493,190 Listy do M. 3 (PL) 5 484,203 365 dni (365 Days) (PL) 6 454,488 Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety (PL) 7 445,873 Miszmasz, czyli Kogel-Mogel 3 (PL) 8 434,401 Listy do M. 2 (PL) 9 433,138 Shrek 2 10 422,088 Star Wars: The Force Awakens The best 3rd weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 448,899 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 2 387,917 Frozen II 3 352,615 The Passion of the Christ 4 274,252 Lejdis (PL) 5 266,681 Listy do M. 2 (PL) 6 266,619 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 7 260,118 Avatar 8 258,637 Shrek Fovever 9 257,893 Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety (PL) 10 253,963 Listy do M. 3 (PL) The best 4th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 294,791 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 2 287,903 The Passion of the Christ 3 238,009 Listy do M. 2 (PL) 4 220,521 Avatar 5 220,134 Listy do M. (PL) 6 192,340 Lejdis (PL) 7 191,304 Frozen II 8 170,967 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 9 160,092 Listy do M. 3 (PL) 10 160,058 Katyń (PL) The best 5th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 199,384 The Passion of the Christ 2 197,437 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 3 189,822 Listy do M. (PL) 4 185,901 Avatar 5 181,690 Listy do M. 3 (PL) 6 157,596 Listy do M. 2 (PL) 7 135,225 Pitbull: Niebezpieczne kobiety (PL) 8 129,768 Katyń (PL) 9 120,872 Lejdis (PL) 10 119,000 Joker The best 6th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 163,662 Avatar 2 153,444 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 3 143,649 Lejdis (PL) 4 119,956 Listy do M. (PL) 5 118,598 Katyń (PL) 6 97,270 Joker 7 90,326 Frozen II 8 74,116 Bogowie (PL) 9 73,755 Shrek the Third 10 73,038 Shrek 2 The best 7th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 138,702 Avatar 2 91,199 The Passion of the Christ 3 73,674 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 4 69,960 Lejdis (PL) 5 61,296 Shrek 2 6 59,720 Listy do M. 2 (PL) 7 51,501 Zemsta (PL) 8 50,223 Shrek the Third 9 50,148 Joker 10 49,749 Bogowie (PL) The best 8th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 149,004 Avatar 2 59,382 Kiler (PL) 3 56,340 Katyń (PL) 4 55,887 The Passion of the Christ 5 51,096 Shrek 2 6 50,014 Space Jam (1997) 7 49,419 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 8 43,763 Listy do M. (PL) 9 41,947 Bogowie (PL) 10 38,328 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring The best 9th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 106,233 Avatar 2 72,526 Listy do M. 3 58,412 Kiler (PL) 4 49,312 Mamma Mia! 5 36,440 Lejdis (PL) 6 35,851 Shrek 2 7 33,902 Bohemian Rapsody 8 28,980 Bogowie (PL) 9 27,616 Stara Baśń. Kiedy Słońce Było Bogiem (PL) 10 27,439 Finding Nemo The best 10th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 90,562 Avatar 2 35,923 Listy do M. (PL) 3 23,468 Shrek 2 4 22,783 Bohemian Rapsody 5 22,165 Lejdis (PL) 6 22,103 Bogowie (PL) 7 21,690 Nigdy w życiu (PL) 8 20,708 Finding Nemo 9 18,770 Stara Baśń. Kiedy Słońce Było Bogiem (PL) 10 18,261 Ice Age 2: The Meltdown The best 11th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 51,989 Avatar 2 27,502 Bohemian Rapsody 3 19,296 Nigdy w życiu (PL) 4 18,977 Luca 5 18,751 Finding Nemo 6 17,637 Inception 7 17,538 The Pianist 8 16,490 Listy do M. (PL) 9 16,299 Shrek 2 10 16,170 Stara Baśń. Kiedy Słońce Było Bogiem (PL) The best 12th weekend ever in admission since 1989 No. Admission Movie 1 42,826 Avatar 2 20,362 Bogowie (PL) 3 17,476 Bohemian Rapsody 4 14,780 Encanto 5 14,200 Dangerous Minds 6 14,159 Clergy (Kler) (PL) 7 13,245 Mirror Mirror 8 12,909 Shrek 2 9 12,566 Finding Nemo 10 11,188 Nigdy w życiu (PL) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cities to tier 1-5 and tier S (supreme). Tier S: Warszawa+Raszyn* Tier 1: Poznań, Wrocław, Kraków Tier 2: Łódź, Katowice, Gdańsk Tier 3: Szczecin, Bydgoszcz, Lublin, Rzeszów Tier 4: Bielsko-Biała, Białystok, Toruń, Kielce, Olsztyn, Częstochowa, Gdynia Tier 5: Zielona-Góra, Radom, Rybnik, Gliwice, Kalisz, Opole *Raszyn has one multiplex called Cinema City Warszawa Janki that's why I put them together Based on this link: http://boxoffice-bozg.pl/widownia-w-polskich-kinach-wedlug-miast-w-roku-2018/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HISTORICAL CHARTS (all thanks to BOXOFFICEowy ZAWRÓT GŁOWY) 1945-1950 [est.; only local, USRR and Czechoslovakian movies, no data from other countries] LINK: BOX OFFICE POLAND 1945-50 No. Title Country Year of premier Admission to 1969 1 Zakazane piosenki Poland 1947 13 925 748 2 Skarb Poland 1948 8 893 083 3 Ulica graniczna Poland 1949 7 912 509 4 Czarci źleb Poland 1950 7 821 347 5 Ostatni etap Poland 1948 7 714 531 6 Miasto nieujarzmione Poland 1950 4 714 555 7 Смелые люди (The Horsemen) USRR 1950 4 591 783 8 Za wami pójdą inni Poland 1949 4 003 027 9 Dom na pustkowiu Poland 1950 3 567 560 10 Stalowe serce Poland 1948 3 549 756 11 Сталинградская битва (The Battle of Stalingrad; 2 parts) USRR 1950 3 402 147 12 Волга-Волга (Volga-Volga) USRR 1946 3 307 296 13 Сказание о земле Сибирской (Symphony of Life) USRR 1948 3 288 907 14 Весёлые ребята (Moscow Laughs) USRR 1946 3 246 943 15 Падение Берлина (The Fall of Berlin) USRR 1950 3 207 407 16 Золушка (Cinderella) USRR 1947 3 107 409 17 Пятнадцатилетний капитан (Fifteen-Year-Old Captain) USRR 1946 3 074 298 18 Sekretar raykoma (We Will Come Back) USRR 1945 3 073 208 19 Подвиг разведчика (Secret Agent) USRR 1948 2 909 864 20 Свинарка и пастух (They Met in Moscow) USRR 1945 2 815 545 Below: number of cinemas (blue) and admission (red) between 1945-1949 1951-1959 LINK: BOX OFFICE POLAND 1951-1959 No. Title Country Year of premier Admission to 1969 1 Fanfan la Tulipe (Soldier of Love) France 1953 9 676 138 2 Тихий Дон (3 parts ; And Quiet Flows the Don) USRR 1958 9 594 743 3 Le rouge et le noir (2 parts; Scarlet and Black) France 1957 7 323 200 4 Irena do domu Poland 1955 7 105 545 5 Les 3 Mousquetaires (1953; The Three Musketeers) France 1956 6 971 860 6 Les Miserables (1952; 2 parts) France 1952 6 869 681 7 Le salaire de la peur (The Wages of Fear) France 1955 6 321 852 8 Przygoda na Mariensztacie Poland 1954 5 698 166 9 Awantura o Basię Poland 1959 5 457 066 10 Застава в горах (Zastava v gorakh) USRR 1954 5 214 068 11 Pueblerina (1949; Village Girl) Mexico 1954 4 652 340 12 Ali Baba et les 40 voleurs (Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves) France 1957 4 623 899 13 Premiera Warszawska Poland 1951 4 428 827 14 Kanał Poland 1957 4 420 869 15 Piątka z ulicy Barskiej Poland 1954 4 390 968 16 Winchester '73 USA 1959 4 327 643 17 Soldat Bom (1948; Private Bom) Sweden 1956 4 258 502 18 Guglielmo Tell (1949; William Tell) Italy 1952 4 156 400 19 Zamach Poland 1959 4 052 163 20 Анна на шее (The Anna Cross) USRR 1954 4 031 671 Numbers of cinemas and admission 1951-1959 breakdown: kina=cinemas, stałe=normal cinemas, w miastach= in cities, na wsi=on countryside, ruchome=mobile cinemas; miejsca na widowni=total number of seats, seanse w kinah=total number of shows; widzowie w kinach=admission

Why are all the anime hits so mis-reported? It's annoying. I follow the boxoffice fairly close like most in here and I was shocked to find out a year later that Suzume and First Slam Dunk actually did 100m in China alone.

does anyone have a list of INT releases? I'm trying to vaguely stich them together because A24 refuses to update. At 4M out of 4.3M (6 out of 18 markets) edit: up to roughly 4.25 (or possibly 4.2M) out of 4.3M with 8/9 of 18 markets accounted for https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1c6crp9/civil_war_made_slightly_over_4m_int_on_its/ Country Initial Release Date Weekend of 4/12 gross Australia 4/11/2024 $679,963 Netherlands 4/11/2024 $333,025 New Zealand 4/11/2024 $129,183 Russia (CIS) 4/11/2024 $595,195 South Africa 4/12/2024 $0 United Kingdom 4/12/2024 $2,271,726 Bulgaria 4/12/2024 $12,560 Romania 4/12/2024 $29,487 Poland has another ~200k (I could only find admits so I paired it with a rounded up version of their 2023 average ticket price) sources on reddit because it's easier.

there probably isn't one perfect chart but you can use keywords in the report builder. In general they're a a bit inconsistent to use as a true single aggregate but they're there (I cite their "anime" keyword below). You can do a couple of queries for "country Japan + [each individual animation filter]" and aggregate them together. But they're obviously not all over the place and I think you're showing exactly why that is. tl;dr I just see a definition problem. If you asked the random moviegoer, I'm don't think they're organically group The Wind Rises (or e.g. Grave of the fireflies) together with the anime franchise films getting increasing boxoffice exposure in the US. Less all over the place than different causal mechanisms is my hypothesis. These extended titles are positioning the film into a much longer narrative of their respective franchises. I think "anime" inherently conjures up a target image not only of Japanese animation but "long running foreign pulp franchise" in particular. A full 1/3rd of the 21 films the-numbers call anime that received a wide release failed to get a 2x multiple and the only things to exceed 3x are Spiderverse and Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Dragon Ball Super: Broly seems like the outlier there. I really think this shows *negative interest* in this sort of elevator pitch outside of the target audience. I just don't think that's what happened there. The NYT ran multiple pieces with Miyazaki's name literally in the headline. This is just not the problem there. There's just a completely orthogonal selling point where you can basically point and say something like "the Walt Disney of Japan." I think that's just fighting more against apathy (look at how non Hollywood animated films oscar nominated films fair at the box office) than negative interest.

Toy Story 4 still made 1 billion at the boxoffice. A Cinamascore, 97 RT critics and won best animated film at the Oscars. I would take an unnecessary film with those scores over the animated crap we're getting today anytime.

I'm taking over for Shawn. All my Derby predicts are going to be on the front page of BoxOffice.com

I'm sorry to hear that you leave Boxoffice.com @Shawn Robbins. Very much appreciated your work . The First Omen, counted today for today, had 184 sold tickets. Up good 53% since yesterday. Comps (all counted on Thursday of the release week for Thursday): Firestarter had 171 sold tickets = 400k. Thanksgiving had 365 = 500k. Prey for the Devil had 164 = 750k. Demeter had 258 = 550k. The Pope's Exorcist had 257 = 600k. The Invitation had 218 = 650k. M3gan had 782 = 650k. Barbarian had 249 = 600k. And Lisa Frankenstein had 276 = 450k. Immaculate (2M OD including previews/5.3M OW) had 237 sold tickets. Average: 550k. Judging from my theaters high single digits is already the best case scenario. But at least it improved a bit in the comps and the jump was decent.

Hey All, Some news to share. I've left Boxoffice.com (BOP) as of this week. I'll have more news eventually, but just wanted to mention that I am no longer delivering forecasts for the weekend or long range on their website. If anyone asks or mentions it in the thread or the forum in general, I kindly ask anyone that can to please let them know about the change so I can try to limit the questions tagging me about it or what their site publishes going forward. Thanks so much for all your support, friends. More to come. Shawn

One interesting fact is that according someone named u/AgentCopper315 on r/boxoffice, Joker did around 120M admissions overseas, which is on par with The Force Awakens excluding China

It's gotten lost in the Godzilla x Kong buzz but in case it wasn't posted before: Long Range Box Office Forecast & 2024’s Upcoming Calendar (as of 3/28/24) Release Date Title 3-Day (FSS) Opening Low/High Range Domestic Total Low/High Range Distributor 4/5/2024 The First Omen $8,000,000 – $13,000,000 $20,000,000 – $34,400,000 20th Century Studios 4/5/2024 Monkey Man $13,000,000 – $21,000,000 $37,000,000 – $63,000,000 Universal Pictures 4/10/2024 SUGA│Agust D TOUR “D-DAY” the MOVIE BTS SUGA 4/12/2024 Civil War $15,000,000 – $23,000,000 $42,000,000 – $72,000,000 A24 4/12/2024 Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead (2024) Iconic Events Releasing 4/12/2024 The Ministry of Ungentlemenly Warfare $6,000,000 – $10,000,000 $12,000,000 – $34,000,000 Lionsgate 4/12/2024 Shrek 2 (20th Anniversary Re-Release) Universal Pictures 4/13/2024 SUGA│Agust D TOUR “D-DAY” the MOVIE BTS SUGA 4/19/2024 Abigail $12,000,000 – $22,000,000 $28,000,000 – $66,000,000 Universal Pictures 4/19/2024 Sasquatch Sunset Bleecker Street 4/19/2024 Spy x Family Code: White Sony / Crunchyroll 4/19/2024 Villains Inc. Purdie Distribution 4/19/2024 Wildfire: The Legend of the Cherokee Ghost Horse Hannover House 4/24/2024 aespa: WORLD TOUR Trafalgar Releasing 4/26/2024 Challengers $7,000,000 – $12,000,000 $18,000,000 – $35,000,000 United Artists Releasing 4/26/2024 Nowhere Special Cohen Media Group 4/26/2024 Unsung Hero $7,000,000 – $14,000,000 $20,000,000 – $46,000,000 Lionsgate / Kingdom Story Company Long Range Box Office Forecast: CHALLENGERS and UNSUNG HERO - Boxoffice (boxofficepro.com)

Yes And also there's a comment on r/boxoffice saying "this is giving me Venom 2 vibes", very very true.

Since, 2015 onwards, here is the number of movies that grossed more than $25M at domestic boxoffice by year - 2015: 98 2016: 97 2017: 90 2018: 94 2019: 89 2021: 44 2022: 46 What would you predict for 2023 ?

Don't know if this was posted and I missed it but: Long Range Box Office Forecast & 2024’s Upcoming Calendar (as of 3/14/24) Release Date Title 3-Day (FSS) Opening Low/High Range Domestic Total Low/High Range Distributor 3/22/2024 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire $31,000,000 – $43,000,000 $85,000,000 – $126,000,000 Sony / Columbia Pictures 3/22/2024 Luca Disney / Pixar 3/29/2024 Asphalt City Vertical & Roadside Attractions 3/29/2024 Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire $43,000,000 – $56,000,000 $95,000,000 – $157,000,000 Warner Bros. Pictures 3/29/2024 In the Land of Saints and Sinners Samuel Goldwyn Films 4/5/2024 The First Omen $8,000,000 – $13,000,000 $20,000,000 – $34,400,000 20th Century Studios 4/5/2024 Monkey Man $16,000,000 – $25,000,000 $45,000,000 – $75,000,000 Universal Pictures 4/10/2024 SUGA│Agust D TOUR “D-DAY” the MOVIE BTS SUGA 4/12/2024 Civil War $12,000,000 – $18,000,000 $34,000,000 – $65,000,000 A24 4/12/2024 Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead (2024) Iconic Events Releasing 4/19/2024 The Ministry of Ungentlemenly Warfare $6,000,000 – $10,000,000 $12,000,000 – $34,000,000 Lionsgate Long Range Box Office Forecast: CIVIL WAR and THE MINISTRY OF UNGENTLEMANLY WARFARE - Boxoffice (boxofficepro.com)

This forum should have never opened up to the incels from r/BoxOffice.

Don't think this was posted earlier: Long Range Box Office Forecast & 2024’s Upcoming Calendar (as of 3/7/24) Release Date Title 3-Day (FSS) Opening Low/High Range Domestic Total Low/High Range Distributor 3/15/2024 Arthur The King $11,000,000 – $16,000,000 $33,000,000 – $64,000,000 Lionsgate 3/15/2024 Love Lies Bleeding (Wide Expansion) A24 3/22/2024 One Life Bleecker Street 3/22/2024 The American Society of Magical Negroes Focus Features 3/22/2024 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire $35,000,000 – $47,000,000 $96,000,000 – $138,000,000 Sony / Columbia Pictures 3/22/2024 Luca Disney / Pixar 3/29/2024 Asphalt City Vertical & Roadside Attractions 3/29/2024 Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire $43,000,000 – $50,000,000 $95,000,000 – $140,000,000 Warner Bros. Pictures 3/29/2024 In the Land of Saints and Sinners Samuel Goldwyn Films 4/5/2024 The First Omen $8,000,000 – $13,000,000 $20,000,000 – $34,400,000 20th Century Studios 4/5/2024 Monkey Man $16,000,000 – $25,000,000 $45,000,000 – $75,000,000 Universal Pictures Long Range Box Office Forecast: THE FIRST OMEN and MONKEY MAN - Boxoffice (boxofficepro.com)

A matter of time until r/boxoffice memes "Mr Beast walk ups"

I don't give a flying fuck about ancillary returns such as toys. Boxoffice was a flop. Boxoffice alone. Everything else is a gravy train that helped the overpriced bust look not as bad as its boxoffice. But the blame is 100% on 250M waste and no it isn't just muh covid, it's terrible SFX from digitally flattening Halle's beautiful chest (why?) to shitty underwater effect that got mogged by AWOW to I don't even know what else they wasted their money on. Bardem's salary cannot be that big.

It's mainly just one person continuing to push this Dune discourse tbf. I do think there is value in trying to move people away from this binary "flop/hit" perspective that has festered on the boxoffice subreddit.

Okay meme/joke time over. I want to push back very very slightly back against the (emerging consensus?!?) idea that this was an obvious fudge job by WB. Now I *know* this is coming from perhaps a place of Motivated Reasoning, so granted in advance. And most of the data was pointing to around 9m to 9.3m True Thursday Previews. But not all of it. It might have gotten lost a bit in all of the discussion, but @rehpyc was reporting that MTC3 was pointing to around 10m Thur: I'll get to Sacramento in a moment, but we had another chain that @jeffthehat tracks which called 10m almost on the nose: (I'll get to commentary about herding at the end — promise!) Finally, there's Sacramento. Not gonna re-quote my post again, but in it I noted that my ad-hoc 2021->2023 ATP adjustment of 1.13047x for Dune spat out a 9.87m True Thursday. It would only take the slightests of ATP hikes/added PLF sales/performing better in places like Canada to move that from 9.9m to 10m. And I will note quite a bit of anecdotal discussion in the OW thread about higher ticket prices for Dune: Part Two. Even an ATP hike of $.25 to $0.50 on some tickets across the country might boost things from 9.75m to 10m. I will also make a comment that sometimes things like our track of MTC1 miss the mark. Maybe it did perform better at various minor theater chains/Middle America, like @TwoMisfits suggested. We do have the tracks from @katnisscinnaplex and @charlie Jatinder which suggest not. But, then again, jeffthehat's chain (plus the major from rehpyc) which suggests it might have. Which brings me to my last piece of commentary: Herding. Whenever a bunch of data-obsessed folks get together, the temptation to go with the majority of the data is strong. Hell, I'll even cop to slightly (and I do mean slightly) weighting my final forecasts on the direction of other markets if I feel uncertain about things. At the same time, sometimes the large data sets are just plain wrong and it's the what looks to be outliers are in fact correct. We see this all the time in election polling, for instance. It's why reputable firms will go ahead and publish those "obvious" outliers. Turns out, sometimes those outliers, aren't. ==== Now, all of the above being said, it is perhaps more plausible than not that WB for some unfathomable reason decided to cater the favor of BOT and r/boxoffice think that a 12m headline was obviously better than 11.5m. But at the same time, I do have to wonder: WHY? All joking aside, it's only places like this that'll care about the difference between 9.25m and 10m True Previews. So why would WB bother when 11.25m looks just as good as 12m in the Trades? None clue. The more likely scenario is that WB fudged for some unfathomable reason. But I do want to point out that there is in fact corroborating evidence for 10m Thursday, even without bringing in soft factors like higher ticket prices for this movie and only this movie or a slightly higher than expected PLF percentage/more adult ticket sales.

yeah this is doubling the first movie's boxoffice