bapi Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 This week's opening markets (incl. North America) secured almost 55% of TASM1's WW total. We'll see. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Release date is the main reason for it's underperform, too near from Cap 2. Same with Amazing 1 and Dark rises, they could have done more. Edited April 30, 2014 by alisson23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Delpech Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 That's what I was thinking, but other people will tell you that that's an excuse, should have spaced it out more, but with Godzilla & X Men behind it..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 That's what I was thinking, but other people will tell you that that's an excuse, should have spaced it out more, but with Godzilla & X Men behind it..... Oh yeah, I think Godzilla will not suffer so much but X-men will be slightly affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Release date is the main reason for it's underperform, too near from Cap 2. Same with Amazing 1 and Dark rises, they could have done more. Too near? It had been atleast 3 weeks between CA2 and TASM2, most of us expected that TASM2 would crush CA2 but CA2 had way better WoM, the TASM2 movie wasn't that good and hadn't that good WoM so that just diference in qualety of the films and not in release date. Edited May 1, 2014 by pepsa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Too near? It had been atleast 3 weeks between CA2 and TASM2, most of us expected that TASM2 would crush CA2 but CA2 had way better WoM, the TASM2 movie wasn't that good and hadn't that good WoM so that just diference in qualety of the films and not in release date. iI agree with Pepsa. I live in Brussels and in my UGC cinema, CATWS had to be removed after barely three weeks, three all weeks to give twice as much room to Spider-Man. I never saw this with any of the previous marvel Phase 2 movie. Just like I never saw a phase two movie being released without having advertisment, nor poster no nothing...the little poster above the movie was released during the night before the release day...i know it cause i went to have my ticket the day before and asked the employee if it was gonna be released cause there were no mention of it, no poster no nothing...other countries have experienced the same. So CATWS has been pulled out of my cinema while it was barely starting to be known for the general audience that it was out. If anything it's CATWS that should have been hit hard and not Spider Man, the Marvel favourite hero whose multiple big posters, TV spots were everywhere to be seen 4 weeks already before its release. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) iI agree with Pepsa. I live in Brussels and in my UGC cinema, CATWS had to be removed after barely three weeks, three all weeks to give twice as much room to Spider-Man. I never saw this with any of the previous marvel Phase 2 movie. Just like I never saw a phase two movie being released without having advertisment, nor poster no nothing...the little poster above the movie was released during the night before the release day...i know it cause i went to have my ticket the day before and asked the employee if it was gonna be released cause there were no mention of it, no poster no nothing...other countries have experienced the same. So CATWS has been pulled out of my cinema while it was barely starting to be known for the general audience that it was out. If anything it's CATWS that should have been hit hard and not Spider Man, the Marvel favourite hero whose multiple big posters, TV spots were everywhere to be seen 4 weeks already before its release. Totaly true. Just put on the televion and you see spiderman every were, I didn't saw one spot of CA2 on tv. I think they might launch a great campain with the avengers2 (I hope so) because this marketing campain of CA2 was bad, very bad. (In Belgium). In comparision TASM2 gets a lot of marketing budget here. To win there lost money back in Belgium, it will be much harder for Spidey because of the expensive marketing campain. Edited May 1, 2014 by pepsa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Huge in Southeast Asia, some predicts $4M OW in Singapore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Delpech Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Talking about Cap being too near SIMPLY because of the fact it's a superhero movie, and then, what, a month after, a new superhero movie? It has nothing to do with quality, it's just that, it might be too close to Cap, not everyone is going to see two superhero movies in one month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Talking about Cap being too near SIMPLY because of the fact it's a superhero movie, and then, what, a month after, a new superhero movie? It has nothing to do with quality, it's just that, it might be too close to Cap, not everyone is going to see two superhero movies in one month. It has to do with qualety and TASM2 isn't that good. You will see, all indicators will say the ASM2 isn't as good as CA2. So, they should need to make a better movie, cause spiderman is awesome but these movies aren't that awesome. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Delpech Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think TASM2 is fantastic, screw what others think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Too near?It had been atleast 3 weeks between CA2 and TASM2, most of us expected that TASM2 would crush CA2 but CA2 had way better WoM, the TASM2 movie wasn't that good and hadn't that good WoM so that just diference in qualety of the films and not in release date.If Captain 2 wasn't released in this year, Do you think Spider 2 would open lower than first? I think no, good WoM is equal good legs, not for OW, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) It has to do with qualety and TASM2 isn't that good. You will see, all indicators will say the ASM2 isn't as good as CA2. So, they should need to make a better movie, cause spiderman is awesome but these movies aren't that awesome. THIS! Edited May 1, 2014 by bapi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 If Captain 2 wasn't released in this year, Do you think Spider 2 would open lower than first? I think no, good WoM is equal good legs, not for OW, I think. OW is also by WoM of the first one... And that WoM of TASM wasn't that great at all, so that why we don't see an increase. And ofc a bit of fatigue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 OW is also by WoM of the first one... And that WoM of TASM wasn't that great at all, so that why we don't see an increase. And ofc a bit of fatigue.Maybe, GI Joe and Transformers had worse WoM than Amazing Spider and sequels had an increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Huge in Southeast Asia, some predicts $4M OW in Singapore It's gonna be huge too here in Indonesia. In the theater that I usually go to, this weekend TASM2 has 37 showtimes in one day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It's gonna be huge too here in Indonesia. In the theater that I usually go to, this weekend TASM2 has 37 showtimes in one day! That is good new, hope we got an increase for TASM2 in the rest of azia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The47th Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Release date is the main reason for it's underperform, too near from Cap 2. Same with Amazing 1 and Dark rises, they could have done more. Spider-Man has always been a way stronger brand than almost any other super-hero ever created. If anything, under normal circumstances we would be talking about how TASM2 would be killing Captain America's legs everywhere. The problem is with the project of TASM2 itself. Any other factor could still be an issue, but nothing serious enough to hurt its BO so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Spider-Man has always been a way stronger brand than almost any other super-hero ever created. If anything, under normal circumstances we would be talking about how TASM2 would be killing Captain America's legs everywhere. The problem is with the project of TASM2 itself. Any other factor could still be an issue, but nothing serious enough to hurt its BO so bad. But TASM2 is killing Captain's legs: -68.7% in Japan, -63.3% in italy... I still think Captain hurt a bit Spider's gross. Generally people will not watch two films of superheroes in the same month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeta Tong Karanasios Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Rotten tomatoes rating:56%(at the moment of posting)!! 1st one:73% Significant drop It will continue falling i think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...