Noctis Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Obviously to many degrees its subjective, but AVATAR's win had just as much to do with its technical advancement as its artistic merit. Then again, since many films "deserve" a cinematography award, and since most people (myself included) can't provide any detailed analysis other than "it looked pretty", why quibble about a nomination? In the case of HBP, the nomination was the win. btw, have you noticed my sig, Noctis? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. GET THE FUCK OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. GET THE FUCK OUT. I know, right???! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 OMFG, he was actually born on July 15? That's, like, the most epic thing. Lucky baby! When did it happen? In the morning or evening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 OMFG, he was actually born on July 15? That's, like, the most epic thing. Lucky baby! When did it happen? In the morning or evening? No, not the 15th. His due date was the 28th, but he came late, the morning of the 31st (which you had predicted in one of the endless DH2 threads). If BOM still existed, I'd dig the post up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 OH, now I remember! That's like, even better! He should be eternally honored to share a birthday with J.K Rowling (the queen of fantasy) and Harry Potter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Good god, that picture will haunt my dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Oh, shut up, you know that baby is adorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 OH, now I remember! That's like, even better! He should be eternally honored to share a birthday with J.K Rowling (the queen of fantasy) and Harry Potter. Oh, Noctis, you were the cutest baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Avatar's cinematography is not even a third as inventive as HBP's. Your just saying this because you love potter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Your just saying this because you love potter. Umm...no? Maybe if you actually learned about cinematography, you'd realize that it's not visual effects. Avatar had mind-blowing visual effects, but in terms of camerawork, HBP trumps it. I prefer Avatar over Half-Blood Prince, so there is no bias here. Half-Blood Prince's cinematography was far more creative than Avatar's. The hues, palettes, epic shots, and incredible lighting rapes Avatar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2f1NrKafGA&feature=related This scene is only a minute and thirty eight seconds long. It is stunning camerawork. You're going to tell me that wasn't worthy of an Oscar win? LMFAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 How about you guys discuss cinematography in the cinematography thread. Now, on the actual topic of the thread: 1. War Horse 2. The Descendants 3. The Artist 4. Moneyball 5. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 6. Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close 7. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy I think The Help will get squeezed out by the 5% rule. Some people have really liked it, but not many, if any, seem to love it before all else. I also think Midnight in Paris is just a bit too small and early in the year to have traction in awards season for this award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Umm...no? Maybe if you actually learned about cinematography, you'd realize that it's not visual effects. Avatar had mind-blowing visual effects, but in terms of camerawork, HBP trumps it. I prefer Avatar over Half-Blood Prince, so there is no bias here. Half-Blood Prince's cinematography was far more creative than Avatar's. The hues, palettes, epic shots, and incredible lighting rapes Avatar. I love watching you get so defensive about Harry Potter. I just imagine a 10-year old flailing his arms, screaming "NO! NO! THAT'S TRUE!". I also enjoy your insinuation that you know far more about cinematography than anybody else here. Edited November 18, 2011 by RichWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted November 18, 2011 Founder / Operator Share Posted November 18, 2011 Predictions: Deathly Hallows 2 The Descendents Moneyball Midnight In Paris The Artist The Help Hugo War Horse Extremely Loud... (on the bubble, though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'd put DH2 on the bubble instead of EXTREMELY LOUD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'd be SHOCKED if Deathly Hallows 2 is nominated. Maybe with the old rules but not with the new ones. How many academy members are actually gonna put it as their favorite film of the year? It has to be at least just over 300. I doubt many critics will put it at their number one of the year either despite them giving it raves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'd be SHOCKED if Deathly Hallows 2 is nominated. Maybe with the old rules but not with the new ones. How many academy members are actually gonna put it as their favorite film of the year? It has to be at least just over 300. I doubt many critics will put it at their number one of the year either despite them giving it raves. Agreed. Without people needing to come up with 10 nominees, there's no impetus for DH2... and right now in Hollywood the movies that are getting Academy love are THE ARTIST and THE DESCENDENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted November 18, 2011 Founder / Operator Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Much as the new rule dictates there doesn't *have* to be 10, that doesn't necessarily mean the Academy won't still recognize that it needs the ratings...and at this point, people won't be watching for anything else. I think had reviews not been so stellar for DH2, and its place in history not be so important, that would better support the argument for DH2 not having a chance at being nominated. A movie doesn't have to be a contender for winning in order to get nominated, especially in a larger field. Edited November 18, 2011 by ShawnMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Exactly. FANBOYS are the only ones who still think it has a shot at a nomination. Some shit like Extremely Lame and Incredibley Contrived will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Much as the new rule dictates there doesn't *have* to be 10, that doesn't necessarily mean the Academy won't still recognize that it needs the ratings...and at this point, people won't be watching for anything else. I think had reviews not been so stellar for DH2, and its place in history not be so important, that would better support the argument for DH2 not having a chance at being nominated. A movie doesn't have to be a contender for winning in order to get nominated, especially in a larger field. It's the PRODUCERS who care so much about ratings. Not the voters. And yes, with the new rules a movie probably does need to be a contender to win to be nominated since it needs a bunch of #1 votes. The Academy have never taken the franchise seriously. Why should they start now? Edited November 18, 2011 by CoolioD1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The Academy, as a single entity, may want to appeal to popular movies to get ratings... but individually, people don't take that into consideration. No one for a movie just because they want the telecast to be big. They vote for what spoke to them emotionally, they vote for their friends, and they vote for themselves. I don't think DH2 has enough love to snag the required 5 percent of #1 votes. In fact, I think no matter how stodgy/arty/whatever the nominations are this year, already the Oscars will gain more interest simply because of the Ratner/Eddie Murphy fallout and the return of Billy Crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
