Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[eridani]

Horner was really one of a kind. Zimmer was just as good up to a point, but he's been trippin for the last 15 or so years. 

 

Not sure who's left, capable of even appproaching horner. Michael giacchino might be ok. Clint mansell might be able to surprise. Heck, even junkie xl might not be a bad choice. Maybe even BRian tyler.

Edited January 6, 2023 by eridani

[Deuce66]

Looks like Weekend #3 gave Disney and Jim all the information they needed. A4 & A5 are a "GO".

 

 

[eridani]

I knew it. "six or seven years". I knew it there would be yet another delay. Most probably well see part 4 in 2027 and part 5 in 2029. Mark my words, the terrain for a delay is being prepped.

[WittyUsername]

3 hours ago, Sheldon Cr said:

??. What films did Howard score?

An incredibly obscure trilogy called Lord of the Rings. 
 

 

1 hour ago, eridani said:

Horner was really one of the kind. Zimmer was just as good up to a pooint, but he's been trippin for the last 15 or so years. 

 

Not sure who's left, capable of even appproaching horner. Michael giacchino might be ok. Clint mansell might be able to surprise. Heck, even junkie xl might not be a bad choice.

 

1 hour ago, eridani said:

Horner was really one of a kind. Zimmer was just as good up to a point, but he's been trippin for the last 15 or so years. 

 

Not sure who's left, capable of even appproaching horner. Michael giacchino might be ok. Clint mansell might be able to surprise. Heck, even junkie xl might not be a bad choice. Maybe even BRian tyler.

 

[Verrows]

Howard Shore's Lord of the Rings scores are the best of all time on my mind.

 

Funny enough I just watched Fellowship of the Ring last night. They don't make movies like that anymore.

[titanic2187]

JC movies tend to have weaker dialogue overall which made me admire Horner even more because he know how to "cover" up JC weakness of the dialogue and allow audience to mix score and visual into a single sensational.  

 

Simon isn't able to replicate that trick and hence the weak dialogue become more noticeable than under Horner' score. 

[Sheldon Cr]

2 hours ago, eridani said:

Horner was really one of the kind. Zimmer was just as good up to a pooint, but he's been trippin for the last 15 or so years. 

 

Not sure who's left, capable of even appproaching horner. Michael giacchino might be ok. Clint mansell might be able to surprise. Heck, even junkie xl might not be a bad choice.

Zimmer's man of steel score was awesome.

[Sheldon Cr]

9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

JC movies tend to have weaker dialogue overall which made me admire Horner even more because he know how to "cover" up JC weakness of the dialogue and allow audience to mix score and visual into a single sensational.  

 

Simon isn't able to replicate that trick and hence the weak dialogue become more noticeable than under Horner' score. 

I disagree on the dialogue. As Titanic, aliens terminator 2 show bigtime especially. Horners score just goes so well with the visions and writing JC lays out. They are just sensational together. I rem Horners Braveheart"s music helped elevate that wonderful movie as well Brother Titanic.

 

 

[Coldbird]

Anecdotal from germany. Avatar 2 has by far the broadest appeal i ever saw in my friendscircle. Many marvel fans which of course are always hyped about the next mcu movie, but many people who dont even watch many movies - bond, marvel, harry potter, star wars or so on -  wanted to watch Avatar 2. Not even hyped about it like we didnt talk about the movie before the release but now most of them are interesed in it.

[Sheldon Cr]

I'm hoping we can creep to 45m. Seems Megan might have stolen some of the legs, so 50mil could be out. Let's see what happens. Share your thoughts my brothers. Quick note.Funny how you give folks the sources to checkout on giants and ancient history and they don't check things out quick to ridicule and show ignorance. But it doesn't explain people from USA, Jamaica, Trinidad, Solomon islands , native Americans all passing down oral history to current on these things.

 

I'm just glad alot of people can research and think out of the box or goodness we'd  be in trouble all ..

 

Hope someone starts a mystery thread 😂.  I love some of these topics my pandoriansm

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[Sheldon Cr]

2 hours ago, Verrows said:

Howard Shore's Lord of the Rings scores are the best of all time on my mind.

 

Funny enough I just watched Fellowship of the Ring last night. They don't make movies like that anymore.

Cool those scores are amongst the best. Have that nature mountain or land adventurer tones in the music like Horners Braveheart. Love the flutes and bagpipes added to scores🦝👍

 

You have definitely peaked my curiosity on

Seeing what other scores Howard has done.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Sheldon Cr
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[stuart360]

5 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

I'm hoping we can creep to 45m. Seems Megan might have stolen some of the legs, so 50mil could be out. Let's see what happens. Share your thoughts

Going to stick to 48 that i put in the 4th weekend prediction thread.

Its probably right at the high end,and yes M3GAN may of stolen a bit of its weekend, but still we havent even had the Friday number yet, it could surprise us Brother Sheldon!.

[The GOAT]

4 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

I'm hoping we can creep to 45m. Seems Megan might have stolen some of the legs, so 50mil could be out. Let's see what happens. Share your thoughts

50 mil Guaranteed through the sheer power of Eywa.

Cameron will have the top 3 out of 4 highest grossing films of all time.

Cementing him as the GOAT ( Greatest of All Time ) of the Boxoffice. 

[Sheldon Cr]

13 minutes ago, stuart360 said:

Going to stick to 48 that i put in the 4th weekend prediction thread.

Its probably right at the high end,and yes M3GAN may of stolen a bit of its weekend, but still we havent even had the Friday number yet, it could surprise us Brother Sheldon!.

Aye captain Stuart. My Brother definitely haven't adjourned yet on that 48-50+m weekend. Pandora is still full of suprises!

 

 

" Nothing is over While the Sully family for  Avatar 2 is still breathing!"

😉🦝💯

 

[Sheldon Cr]

16 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

50 mil Guaranteed through the sheer power of Eywa.

Cameron will have the top 3 out of 4 highest grossing films of all time.

Cementing him as the GOAT ( Greatest of All Time ) of the Boxoffice. 

 

Engage!!

 

 

[Deep Wang]

Day	Day of Week	Avatar	Avatar 2	A2 +/-	Gain/Loss
1	Fri	$26,752,099	$53,200,270	$26,448,171
2	Sat	$52,281,135	$97,528,157	$45,247,022	$18,798,851
3	Sun	$77,025,481	$134,100,226	$57,074,745	$11,827,723
4	Mon	$83,411,301	$150,357,304	$66,946,003	$9,871,258
5	Tue	$109,497,762	$168,646,208	$59,148,446	-$7,797,557
6	Wed	$125,943,053	$183,049,646	$57,106,593	-$2,041,853
7	Thu	$137,094,051	$197,681,686	$60,587,635	$3,481,042
8	Fri	$160,189,097	$216,970,827	$56,781,730	-$3,805,905
9	Sat	$188,463,503	$231,840,115	$43,376,612	-$13,405,118
10	Sun	$212,711,184	$261,019,906	$48,308,722	$4,932,110
11	Mon	$232,129,323	$293,290,336	$61,161,013	$12,852,291
12	Tue	$250,419,951	$317,418,839	$66,998,888	$5,837,875
13	Wed	$268,886,074	$338,000,853	$69,114,779	$2,115,891
14	Thu	$283,624,210	$358,117,914	$74,493,704	$5,378,925
15	Fri	$308,898,218	$382,954,749	$74,056,531	-$437,173
16	Sat	$334,733,769	$401,007,908	$66,274,139	-$7,782,392
17	Sun	$352,114,898	$425,527,069	$73,412,171	$7,138,032
18	Mon	$360,209,452	$446,938,691	$86,729,239	$13,317,068
19	Tue	$367,536,685	$457,483,420	$89,946,735	$3,217,496
20	Wed	$374,445,852	$464,958,728	$90,512,876	$566,141
21	Thu	$380,540,297	$471,789,379	$91,249,082	$736,206

[CaptNathanBrittles]

Anyone know the record for Biggest 4th Week? AVATAR's $69.9m?

[upriser7]

I think the score definitely could have better. It was ok..nothing much memorable. A better score could have definitely elevated few scenes even more

[Elessar]

Dunno if the comparison is that interesting anymore now that R1 is in its rear mirror. I guess i like seeing R1 getting pummeled....

 

Day / Date	Rogue One	Avatar Way of Water
0 / Dec 15 Thu	$29,000,000 total $29,000,000	$17,000,000 total $17,000,000
1 / Dec 16 Fri	$71,094,394 (theaters 4,157) (YD - / LW -) total $71,094,394	$53,200,270 (theaters 4,202) (YD - / LW -) total $53,200,270
2 / Dec 17 Sat	$46,308,115 (theaters 4,157) (YD -35% / LW -) total $117,402,509	$44,327,887 (theaters 4,202) (YD -17% / LW -) total $97,528,157
3 / Dec 18 Sun	$37,679,172 (theaters 4,157) (YD -19% / LW -) total $155,081,681 WE 1 $155,081,681 (-)	$36,572,069 (theaters 4,202) (YD -17% / LW -) total $134,100,226 WE 1 $134,100,226 (-)
4 / Dec 19 Mon	$17,596,150 (theaters 4,157) (YD -53% / LW -) total $172,677,831	$16,257,078 (theaters 4,202) (YD -56% / LW -) total $150,357,304
5 / Dec 20 Tue	$17,582,978 (theaters 4,157) (YD - / LW -) total $190,260,809	$18,288,904 (theaters 4,202) (YD +12% / LW -) total $168,646,208
6 / Dec 21 Wed	$14,965,790 (theaters 4,157) (YD -15% / LW -) total $205,226,599	$14,403,438 (theaters 4,202) (YD -21% / LW -) total $183,049,646
7 / Dec 22 Thu	$16,773,075 (theaters 4,157) (YD +12% / LW -) total $221,999,674	$14,632,040 (theaters 4,202) (YD +2% / LW -) total $197,681,686
8 / Dec 23 Fri	$22,860,256 (theaters 4,157) (YD +36% / LW -68%) total $244,859,930	$19,289,141 (theaters 4,202) (YD +32% / LW -64%) total $216,970,827
9 / Dec 24 Sat	$15,308,508 (theaters 4,157) (YD -33% / LW -67%) total $260,168,438	$14,869,288 (theaters 4,202) (YD -23% / LW -66%) total $231,840,115
10 / Dec 25 Sun	$25,865,004 (theaters 4,157) (YD +69% / LW -31%) total $286,033,442 WE 2 $64,033,768 (-59%)	$29,179,791 (theaters 4,202) (YD +96% / LW -20%) total $261,019,906 WE 2 $63,338,220 (-53%)
11 / Dec 26 Mon	$32,085,637 (theaters 4,157) (YD +24% / LW +82%) total $318,119,079	$32,270,430 (theaters 4,202) (YD +11% / LW +99%) total $293,290,336
12 / Dec 27 Tue	$22,515,612 (theaters 4,157) (YD -30% / LW +28%) total $340,634,691	$24,128,503 (theaters 4,202) (YD -25% / LW +32%) total $317,418,839
13 / Dec 28 Wed	$18,021,482 (theaters 4,157) (YD -20% / LW +20%) total $358,656,173	$20,582,014 (theaters 4,202) (YD -15% / LW +43%) total $338,000,853
14 / Dec 29 Thu	$16,722,532 (theaters 4,157) (YD -7% / LW n/c) total $375,378,705	$20,117,061 (theaters 4,202) (YD -2% / LW +37%) total $358,117,914
15 / Dec 30 Fri	$18,224,317 (theaters 4,157) (YD +9% / LW -20%) total $393,603,022	$24,836,835 (theaters 4,202) (YD +23% / LW +29%) total $382,954,749
16 / Dec 31 Sat	$14,632,828 (theaters 4,157) (YD -20% / LW -4%) total $408,235,850	$18,053,159 (theaters 4,202) (YD -27% / LW +21%) total $401,007,908
17 / Jan 1 Sun	$16,751,857 (theaters 4,157) (YD +14% / LW -35%) total $424,987,707 WE 3 $49,609,002 (-23%)	$24,519,161 (theaters 4,202) (YD +36% / LW -16%) total $425,527,069 WE 3 $67,409,155 (+6%)
18 / Jan 2 Mon	$15,913,674 (theaters 4,157) (YD -5% / LW -50%) total $440,901,381	$21,411,622 (theaters 4,202) (YD -13% / LW -34%) total $446,938,691
19 / Jan 3 Tue	$6,268,921 (theaters 4,157) (YD -61% / LW -72%) total $447,170,302	$10,544,729 (theaters 4,202) (YD -51% / LW -56%) total $457,483,420
20 / Jan 4 Wed	$4,237,535 (theaters 4,157) (YD -32% / LW -76%) total $451,407,837	$7,475,308 (theaters 4,202) (YD -29% / LW -64%) total $464,958,728
21 / Jan 5 Thu	$3,893,517 (theaters 4,157) (YD -8% / LW -77%) total $455,301,354	$6,830,651 (theaters 4,202) (YD -9% / LW -66%) total $471,789,379

[Ed Raven]

32 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

Anyone know the record for Biggest 4th Week? AVATAR's $69.9m?

Looks like it, yup:

 

 

Source: https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Avatar-The-Way-of-Water-(2022)/Star-Wars-Ep-VII-The-Force-Awakens/Avatar/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)/Spider-Man-No-Way-Home-(2021)/Avengers-Endgame-(2019)#tab=week_comparison

Edited January 7, 2023 by Ed Raven