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Joy | David O. Russell | Christmas 2015 | New Trailer on Page 20!

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Jandrew Global Phenomenon

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J Law? Check.

David O Russell? Check.

Robert De Niro? Check.

Mid 20th century America setting? Check.

Holiday release? Check.

Hairstyles? Check.

Inspirational story that includes trials and tribulation, angst, and white people crying, hitting walls, and yelling at things? Check.

Its only July but you can already smell the Oscar noms.

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AJG Global Phenomenon

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J Law? Check.

David O Russell? Check.

Robert De Niro? Check.

Mid 20th century America setting? Check.

Holiday release? Check.

Hairstyles? Check.

Inspirational story that includes trials and tribulation, angst, and white people crying, hitting walls, and yelling at things? Check.

Its only July but you can already smell the Oscar noms.

This could end up being one of the overhyped Oscar noms we've been waiting for. Along with Suffragette, the Tight Rope Man, and Steve Jobs

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I thought the trailer looked like shit. It was just a collage of short clips that mean nothing.

Anywho....how do you think this movie is going to do in the box office? I'm still not convinced jlaw is as big of a draw as everyone is saying, just the movies shes done have been good (minus American hustle)

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People go on about superhero movies becoming formulatic, but oscar bait movies have been following the same system for so long. DOR's last 3 are all basically the same movie in terms of construction when it boils down to it, and Joy looks no different. IMO his best is honestly Three Kings, and one reason is becasue he wasnt trying to pander to the Oscar audience.

These movies are good, but theyre all the same thing, from the movies themselves to the nominations and whos nominated to the awards shows. Joy looks good by that trailer, but nothing stands out and makes it not look like your typical winter adult drama release.

Its bad when you already can basically lock the director, actress, cinematographer, supporting actor, and writer for noms. Only rarely is it clear miss, ie Counselor.

Biggest evidence is J Law nominated for AH rather than CF. her performance in CF was overlooked becasue its a blockbuster, but she really brought down the house in that movie. In AH all she did was cry on queue, scream, and go "Carmine!" in a bad New York accent. She only got nominated because it was AH, not because it was truly levitating performance, like CF. And Joy will be no different. You'll see.

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J Law? Check.

David O Russell? Check.

Robert De Niro? Check.

Mid 20th century America setting? Check.

Holiday release? Check.

Hairstyles? Check.

Inspirational story that includes trials and tribulation, angst, and white people crying, hitting walls, and yelling at things? Check.

Its only July but you can already smell the Oscar noms.

 

Uncheck that. The real life Joy Mangano was born in 1956 and invented the Miracle Mop in 1990. So it's probably going to be more of a late 20th century setting (80s and 90s).  

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People go on about superhero movies becoming formulatic, but oscar bait movies have been following the same system for so long. DOR's last 3 are all basically the same movie in terms of construction when it boils down to it, and Joy looks no different. IMO his best is honestly Three Kings, and one reason is becasue he wasnt trying to pander to the Oscar audience.

These movies are good, but theyre all the same thing, from the movies themselves to the nominations and whos nominated to the awards shows. Joy looks good by that trailer, but nothing stands out and makes it not look like your typical winter adult drama release.

Its bad when you already can basically lock the director, actress, cinematographer, supporting actor, and writer for noms. Only rarely is it clear miss, ie Counselor.

Biggest evidence is J Law nominated for AH rather than CF. her performance in CF was overlooked becasue its a blockbuster, but she really brought down the house in that movie. In AH all she did was cry on queue, scream, and go "Carmine!" in a bad New York accent. She only got nominated because it was AH, not because it was truly levitating performance, like CF. And Joy will be no different. You'll see.

Eh. You're kind of selling your opinions as facts. Accents matter less to the Awards bodies then people make it out for. I found her performance in CF fine, but her American Hustle performance was pretty damn impressive. It was a layered portrayal of a young woman who grew up too fast and is completely lost in her own devices. I thought when she tearfully said "I don't like change" (after her date) was incredibly effecting and one of her best on screen moments. It isn't like it was just the AAMPS that ate up her performance, it was all of the critics too. Hell, most of them awarded Lawerence of Lupita. Besides, Lawerence was nominated in supporting and she is lead in Hunger Games. They could award both if they felt inclined.

Furthermore, I think DOR movies seem similar because they have a great energy to them. Aesthetically, Joy looks far different than his other work. His cinematography is usually quite bland, but here it looks dreamy and really Christmas-y.

Would it be fun if the Academy didn't award the same directors and topics every year? Hell yeah. But DOR is kind of like Scorsese to me. Their movies are each clearly their own and they appeal to the Academy. I don't like to think that they are actually prying for nominations and awards. :P

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