How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS

[cannastop]

3 minutes ago, langer said:

 

Unreliable, but best source we have. 

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-video-sales-chart

I see that Minions has made more money than Inside Out. So much for original movies having the advantage.

[langer]

3 minutes ago, cannastop said:

I see that Minions has made more money than Inside Out. So much for original movies having the advantage.

 

They are basically neck and neck.  The Despicable Me franchise is also a beast on HV. 

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, langer said:

 

They are basically neck and neck.  The Despicable Me franchise is also a beast on HV. 

Oh yeah. The original Despicable was original as fuck.

Animated movies are the only blockbusters that aren't based on previously released material, really.

[Giesi]

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

TFA debuts with almost 3mio Blurays sold.

3rd biggest first week, only behind Frozen and Avengers in terms of units, 2nd in $ behind Frozen!

Edited May 9, 2016 by Giesi

[edroger3]

55 minutes ago, Giesi said:

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

TFA debuts with almost 3mio Blurays sold.

3rd biggest first week, only behind Frozen and Avengers in terms of units, 2nd in $ behind Frozen!

According to >HomeMediaMagazine, TFA had a BR market share of 74%, so should have sold around 4M of phisical discs in first week of release. This confirm that Frozen (7,2M in first week, almost 20M now) have been the last great home video seller, at least in phisical.

[langer]

It's pretty much guaranteed to end up #1 all time on Blu Ray by the end of the year.  Feels good to see a big opener like that on HV.  Question is: will it be the first movie to  reach 200M$ on Blu Ray?  I think so, but nothing is guaranteed with sequels coming up for both Frozen and Avatar. 

[langer]

So TFA opened to 85M$ on HV (74M$ BR, 11M$ DVD). 

 

The rule of thumb is that a movie (that is released on a Tuesday) will gross roughly between 2X and 2,5X its first week during its first year on HV.  This means TFA should end up with 170M$ by that time next year.  The main difference with other movies is that TFA will most likely get a "sequel" bump next Christmas and next April when Rogue One gets both its theatrical and HV release while most movies tend to receive those bumps 2 to 3 years after hitting the home market.

 

My projection is that TFA will be just under 200M combined by that time next year and will become the first movie to reach 200M$ combined since Frozen and DM2 and the first live action movie since The Avengers and The Hunger Games. 

[Giesi]

9 hours ago, langer said:

So TFA opened to 85M$ on HV (74M$ BR, 11M$ DVD). 

 

The rule of thumb is that a movie (that is released on a Tuesday) will gross roughly between 2X and 2,5X its first week during its first year on HV.  This means TFA should end up with 170M$ by that time next year.  The main difference with other movies is that TFA will most likely get a "sequel" bump next Christmas and next April when Rogue One gets both its theatrical and HV release while most movies tend to receive those bumps 2 to 3 years after hitting the home market.

 

My projection is that TFA will be just under 200M combined by that time next year and will become the first movie to reach 200M$ combined since Frozen and DM2 and the first live action movie since The Avengers and The Hunger Games. 

Any infos about the digital release? Its On Demand sales must have cut off the HV sales, kinda depressing numbers, both DVD and Bluray.

[langer]

4 hours ago, Giesi said:

Any infos about the digital release? Its On Demand sales must have cut off the HV sales, kinda depressing numbers, both DVD and Bluray.

 

I'm sure there are articles you can find online about digital sales.  The-Numbers doesn't track these though.  Depressing numbers if you look at past years, but certainly in line with the current market. 

[Mojoguy]

TFA home video sales came way behind Frozen during its first week

First week Bluray
TFA 2,944,417 units sold
Frozen 3,859,950

First week dvd
TFA 669,318 units sold
Frozen 3,289,193

http://www.the-numbers.com/

[Mojoguy]

20 million units sold (Bluray+DVD) seems to be the ceiling for home video releases nowadays. Frozen has hit 20 million units, while Avatar is at 19 million sold.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/star-wars-the-force-awakens-dvd-blu-ray.html

[baumer]

Deadpool looks to be pretty big.  It was sold out of the local Best Buy on Tuesday night.

[DeeCee]

I'll be picking up the Golden Girls Blu Ray box set this weekend with my Deadpool Blu Ray. 

[Chaz]

1 minute ago, DeeCee said:

I'll be picking up the Golden Girls Blu Ray box set this weekend with my Deadpool Blu Ray. 

What a mean thing to say. I got so fucking excited.

[langer]

8 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

20 million units sold (Bluray+DVD) seems to be the ceiling for home video releases nowadays. Frozen has hit 20 million units, while Avatar is at 19 million sold.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/star-wars-the-force-awakens-dvd-blu-ray.html

 

Yep, only TDK and Cars seem to have sold more in the last 10 years. 

[edroger3]

6 hours ago, Baumer said:

Deadpool looks to be pretty big.  It was sold out of the local Best Buy on Tuesday night.

 

Deadpool’ Becomes Fastest Selling Superhero Title on Digital HD

[Giesi]

http://www.bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-news/allgemein/98072-star-wars-das-erwachen-der-macht-knackt-in-nur-einer-woche-die-halbe-million-blu-ray-marktanteil-be

500k sales first week for TFA in Germany with a 60% bluray share. So we got around 5,3M disks sold in the US, UK and Germany together in the first week, without VoD. 

[SteveJaros]

On 4/25/2016 at 10:22 AM, langer said:

 

- Spectre is at 32M at the moment and should also leave the top 30 with about 37-38M.  Will reach 40M in its first year, but most likely won't reach 50M unless it gets some special deals.

 

- The Good Dinosaur is at 44M at the moment and still selling strong.  50M is locked for this. 

 

Spectre was far more successful at the box office so looks like TGD is out-performing its theatrical gross a bit in home sales (not that this is saying much, LOL). So that will lessen the bath Disney/Pixar took on it, I guess.

Edited May 17, 2016 by SteveJaros

[baumer]

Great to see TFA and Deadpool do well on HV.

[SteveJaros]

On 4/6/2016 at 10:27 AM, narniadis said:

 

Or for those of us who followed HV Sales during DVD's heyday (2002-2008) I mean look at the sales for 2006 & 2007... Shows that Pirates really was a beast on HV even if the Theatrical (#3) fell substantially

 

Yes, FWIW, here are the total domestic video sales for the big 2007 movies:

 

1) Pirates ... At World's End ........ $318m

2) Transformers ....................... $302m

3) Shrek 3 .............................. $176m

4) Spiderman 3 ........................ $125m

 

IIRC, "Pirates" had the lowest DOM box office gross but sheesh look at those home video numbers (and at the time, Blu-Ray/HD-DVD were in their infancy so these numbers are almost entirely from DVD).

 

What we need are some accurate numbers on Digital/Streaming sales so we can compare current films to films of the past. 

 

Edited May 17, 2016 by SteveJaros