RAMPAGE | 13 April 2018 | Warner Brothers | Dwayne Johnson

[norbar]

1 hour ago, Green245 said:

I finally saw this movie yesterday. I loved it! It was fantastic entertainment. Its very fast paced. The two hours flew by. It was much better than I expected. Its a classic fun movie. Critics who dislike it take the movie too seriously. Its not advertised as "War and Peace."

 

I would strongly recommend this film. 

This is a stupid argument. Most critics who disliked it like dumb fun movies. Many people who love Deadpool, John Wick, first Taken movie still didn't like this. Sorry don't create the false ilusion that anyone who doesn't like dumb movies authomaticaly is a snob who only watches 24h holocaust documentaries and Terrence Malick flicks about Christian Bale drying paint. 

 

The movie looks like 2 other Dwayne Johnson blockbusters - San Andreas and that other thing plus it looks a lot like Skyscraper. He looks the same in every movie, he is like the only character in those movies (or at least in trailers). People are just getting bored of it. This is why it doesn't sell. Plus we had a better movie about giant ape vs giant monster recently, it was called Kong Skull Island at at least it didn't take place in the same generic city we see in every Dwayne Johnson and Michael Bay movie. 

[RandomCat]

28 minutes ago, norbar said:

This is a stupid argument. Most critics who disliked it like dumb fun movies. Many people who love Deadpool, John Wick, first Taken movie still didn't like this. Sorry don't create the false ilusion that anyone who doesn't like dumb movies authomaticaly is a snob who only watches 24h holocaust documentaries and Terrence Malick flicks about Christian Bale drying paint. 

 

The movie looks like 2 other Dwayne Johnson blockbusters - San Andreas and that other thing plus it looks a lot like Skyscraper. He looks the same in every movie, he is like the only character in those movies (or at least in trailers). People are just getting bored of it. This is why it doesn't sell. Plus we had a better movie about giant ape vs giant monster recently, it was called Kong Skull Island at at least it didn't take place in the same generic city we see in every Dwayne Johnson and Michael Bay movie. 

Some interesting points in here. A lot of them wrong, but interesting none the less.

[baumer]

Will make my top ten of the year.  More than just a movie about giant animals destroying a city.  There's some strong messages in here about animal protection and the dangers of humans playing God.  I love this film. 

[MrGlass2]

54 minutes ago, norbar said:

People are just getting bored of it. This is why it doesn't sell.

Except it does?

 

And Skyscraper is the one that looks generic as hell.

[SchumacherFTW]

11 minutes ago, baumer said:

Will make my top ten of the year.  More than just a movie about giant animals destroying a city.  There's some strong messages in here about animal protection and the dangers of humans playing God.  I love this film. 

I should have realised how on board with this you would be while I watched it. It almost is a movie about animal lovers saving the world lol. 

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

Is this locked to be the most successful video game movie? Close to 400WW finish is doable with 80-90m DOM? All with a smooth 50% on RT. 

 

Haven't seen the movie yet but any sequel bait/cliffhanger?

 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, SchumacherFTW said:

I should have realised how on board with this you would be while I watched it. It almost is a movie about animal lovers saving the world lol. 

 

Yep, good point.  I love the fact that DJ plays an primate specialist who can also kick some ass and is very passionate about animal protection.

[norbar]

1 hour ago, RandomCat said:

Some interesting points in here. A lot of them wrong, but interesting none the less.

I love how you say my points are wrong but you make no effort to really say why. 

[norbar]

1 hour ago, MrGlass2 said:

Except it does?

 

And Skyscraper is the one that looks generic as hell.

$35m opening while some people here claimed 50-100m opening is not selling well. The mummy opened not much lower. It has a $120m production budget. So add like $80m for marketing and it needs to do $400m WW. Remember it will drop a lot when Avengers arrive. 

[Jessie]

2 minutes ago, norbar said:

I love how you say my points are wrong but you make no effort to really say why. 

Because its not worth it, they are just wrong 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, norbar said:

I love how you say my points are wrong but you make no effort to really say why. 

 

Well, you're obviously wrong about people getting tired of the Rock.  You're wrong about it not selling.  It opened to 150 million WW, so it obviously sold quite well.

[norbar]

1 hour ago, baumer said:

Will make my top ten of the year.  More than just a movie about giant animals destroying a city.  There's some strong messages in here about animal protection and the dangers of humans playing God.  I love this film. 

I love the message but the movie was meh for me. There are much better movies about the same topic. It only gets points for getting to more people than other movies on a similar topic (well Avatar was kinda similar in its themes in terms of protecting the enviroment). 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, norbar said:

$35m opening while some people here claimed 50-100m opening is not selling well. The mummy opened not much lower. It has a $120m production budget. So add like $80m for marketing and it needs to do $400m WW. Remember it will drop a lot when Avengers arrive. 

 

Who claimed Rampage would open to 50-100 million.  Do you have posts to prove this?

[norbar]

1 minute ago, Jessie said:

Because its not worth it, they are just wrong 

If they are "just wrong" it's easy to rebuke them. Your argument is illogical. You basically say it's not worth countering people when they are wrong. So what you disagree with other people and explain why only when they are right? I will gladly talk about the movie but I thought this was a box office forum. Not a fanboy group where any criticism is not wellcome and we will not talk about what influences movie performance.

[norbar]

2 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

Who claimed Rampage would open to 50-100 million.  Do you have posts to prove this?

You did You have literally said it will open closer to 65 than 35 when we talked in another topic

 

Also it still probably be 30-50m from breaking even in cinemas. How is that a great result?

Edited April 17, 2018 by norbar

[baumer]

Maybe people were saying it could do 50M, but I doubt anyone here said it would open to 100M.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, norbar said:

You did You have literally said it will open closer to 65 than 35 when we talked in another topic

 

So I thought it would open closer to 65, that's not 100M.

[norbar]

2 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

So I thought it would open closer to 65, that's not 100M.

Ok so close to 65 not close to 100. You still overvalued it. Also this is not the topic of this discussion. I get that you like the movie. To me it had it's moments but I'd like to discuss 2 things:

 

1. How am I wrong outside of using a few hyperbolies? The movie is a bit different than other Dwayne Johnson movies but it uses the same aesthetic (lighting, grading, costumes - a bit like older Marvel movies that looked all like TV productions. Add to that a very similar looking city) so it seems like it's a series of movies. I love Johnson, he is super charismatic and likeable but the marketing for this makes this look like a Dwayne Johnson Verse tried making a cheaper Kong movie (I know the plot and stuff is different but remember most people don't make calculated decisions when going to cinemas). Hell some comedic sites started satirizing he looks the same in every movie where he is the only lead.

2. How is $35m opening on a $120m budget a satisfying result?

[RandomCat]

9 minutes ago, norbar said:

I love how you say my points are wrong but you make no effort to really say why. 

It's not my job to educate you. It isn't my fault that you say blatantly false things, combined with purposefully reframing other people's comments to better suit your narrative, so you can then attempt to bring down what they said, while not actually confronting what they said.

 

All in an attempt to "win" an argument. On the Internet. So yes, I made no effort to say why. Because of all the hills to die on, Rampage isn't one of them. The fact that you have chosen to do so, is all on you.

 

[norbar]

3 minutes ago, RandomCat said:

It's not my job to educate you. It isn't my fault that you say blatantly false things, combined with purposefully reframing other people's comments to better suit your narrative, so you can then attempt to bring down what they said, while not actually confronting what they said.

 

All in an attempt to "win" an argument. On the Internet. So yes, I made no effort to say why. Because of all the hills to die on, Rampage isn't one of them. The fact that you have chosen to do so, is all on you.

 

No but since you made the effort to say I have said something wrong I assume you want me to know where i made a mistake. Am I wrong on the critics part or on the rampage part? 

 

I want to restart this discussion. Sorry to Baumer and anyone who feels i have misinterpreted their opinion. My point is not to win an argument. This is why I want you to say where I am wrong. I don't want to die for rampage and I feel no need to win. I really sinecerly want to discuss the box office performance here. Can we do it? Please. I am really trying to have a civilized discussion. 

Edited April 17, 2018 by norbar