Fancyarcher Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I feel like you're looking at 90s filmmaking from a 21st century perspective. Studios didn't necessarily expect summer films to be big tentpoles -- though of course they were happy when they turned out to be. Unless they were runaway productions that went way over budget, if you had a budget in the high 30s/low 40s a gross of 70-80m was pretty good. This would've been particularly true for an R-rated movie that, while it had a good cast, didn't have any giant stars, and if anything, was more of an ensemble drama built around some dangerous events than anything else. CLIFFHANGER, for example, only made $8m more than BACKDRAFT (domestically), even though the budget was way, way higher and even though it starred one of the bigger names in movies at the time (though he wasn't at the pinnacle of stardom). And Cliffhanger was considered a hit at the time, though it was also an international co-production, and made a lot of cash overseas, like a lot of Stallone's films did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I wonder how long we'll be in the age of mega budgets and attempt at unified universe storytelling. Obviously until the end of the decade, and likely at least another few years into the 2020's. At that point I wonder if TV serials and services like Netflix will have become the default venue for anything that probably would have been a small-mid budget movie in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 But Cliffhanger did great overseas from what I remember Oh sure, it did much better than BACKDRAFT internationally. But in terms of budget multipliers, they ended up around the same: Cliffhanger: 3.64x its production budget worldwide Backdraft: 3.45x its production budget worldwide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Going to try my luck and do some predictions (not even attempting Minions): IO- 4.8M JW- 4M TG- 3.4M MM- 2.9 Edited July 9, 2015 by WrathOfHan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop54 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Going to try my luck and do some predictions (not even attempting Minions): IO- 4.8M JW- 4M TG- 3.4M MM- 2.9 No way does JW go that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Everything will drop. MINIONS is taking a ton of screens tonight, and shows start at six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 No way does JW go that high. Yep, likely drop in the 10% range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeManhattan Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Most media organizations hasn't posted Wednesday's numbers yet, apparently there is some dispute over the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Most media organizations hasn't posted Wednesday's numbers yet, apparently there is some dispute over the results. Between Terminator and Magic Mike perhaps? Do they really think we give a shit which one made more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Everything will drop. MINIONS is taking a ton of screens tonight, and shows start at six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxofficerules Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Between Terminator and Magic Mike perhaps? Do they really think we give a shit which one made more? Arnold fan boys do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It's possible JW passes $650m & misses Titanic. I honestly feel like it's going to be that close, $80m left of gross sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deep Wang Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Between Terminator and Magic Mike perhaps? Do they really think we give a shit which one made more? I care! Go Mike go! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggestgeekever Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I can't believe the first round of showtimes for Minions have already begun in 3 time zones. How much farther can Hollywood possibly turn back the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So much wonderful 90's box office talk yet no mention of THE NET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Eventually, previews are going to go further and further back to the point that everything will eventually open a week earlier and we'll be back to movies starting ON Friday. Edited July 10, 2015 by TServo2049 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I can't believe the first round of showtimes for Minions have already begun in 3 time zones. How much farther can Hollywood possibly turn back the clock Five years. No, ten. Wait! Fifteen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkelf Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Here's something to cheer you up 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Oh sure, it did much better than BACKDRAFT internationally. But in terms of budget multipliers, they ended up around the same: Cliffhanger: 3.64x its production budget worldwide Backdraft: 3.45x its production budget worldwide hey how'd we get out of there? i think we did some sweet moves from that movie backdraft. i never saw backdraft. ...me either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
