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[Lothar]

Star wars is having 40 years of Fanbase yet they failed to achieve what Avatar or Titanic did. I think we shoud compare movies with Titanic rather than Avatar. Because I don't think any SW, MCU, HP or any other movie is going to reach that peak ever or maybe in 2070 when exchange rate is 50$. as @JamesCameronScholar said. Only JC can beat JC. 

[Kvikk Lunsj]

But the Gone with Wind Franchise destroys Avatars

[Barnack]

2 hours ago, Lothar said:

I think we shoud compare movies with Titanic rather than Avatar. Because I don't think any SW, MCU, HP or any other movie is going to reach that peak ever or maybe in 2070 when exchange rate is 50$. as @JamesCameronScholar said. Only JC can beat JC. 

Not sure Avatar was bigger than Titanic and that JC achieve to top is own record, and that is without taking into account Titanic re-release giant success that I am not sure Avatar will ever have.

 

You can even see Titanic impact on the global industry statistic of is time:

 

 

To give an idea, the top 10 ww in 1996, 1997, 1998 average without Titanic was: 372.96m

 

The top 5 of those 3 year's had a : 614.5m average

 

	Independence Day	Fox	$817.40
	The Lost World: Jurassic Park	Uni.	$618.60
	Men in Black	Sony	$589.40
	Armageddon	BV	$553.70
	Twister	WB	$494.50

 

Titanic:

 

 

For Avatar, 2008, 2009, 2010 top 10 movies WW without it averaged: 700.65

 

Top 5 of that era: 998.04

	Toy Story 3	BV	$1,067.00
	Alice in Wonderland (2010)	BV	$1,025.50
	The Dark Knight	WB	$1,003.00
	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1	WB	$960.30
	Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	WB	$934.40

 

 

Titanic first run was:

4.94 times bigger than the top 10 average.

3 times bigger than the top 5 movies of that time.

2.25 times is biggest competition

Stayed number 1 domestic for 11 year's

 

Avatar first run + the 2010 special edition was:

3.96 times bigger than is era top 10 average.

2.78 times bigger than the top 5 movies of that time

2.6 times is biggest competition

Stayed number 1 domestic for 6 year's

 

Pretty comparable runs, Titanic was clearly bigger domestic but Avatar was maybe bigger intl, really achieved to get better performance among the new market than Hollywood average movies.

 

 

2 hours ago, Lothar said:

Star wars is having 40 years of Fanbase yet they failed to achieve what Avatar or Titanic did.

Not sure yet is the good word here, the biggest movie always have been original one probably for a reason, having a fanbase also usually mean having a list of people that will not see it (have seen the previous one and didn't like them or not having seen them and that create lot of resistance), the floor is much higher for franchise movies but they probably have a lower ceiling.

 

The next movies to have a E.T. Titanic or Avatar type of run will probably be an first entry also. Arguably being a 40 year's old franchise is a reason SW will have an hard time ever doing what Titanic/Avatar did (stuff like setting a new record that will stay for year's in the China market).

 

Edited January 21, 2018 by Barnack

[TomCruiseTop]

2 hours ago, Dexter of Suburbia said:

But the Gone with Wind Franchise destroys Avatars

Fortunately Avatar won't require another 11 re-releases to overtake GwtW. 

Edited January 21, 2018 by JamesCameronScholar

[Kvikk Lunsj]

50 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

Fortunately Avatar won't require another 11 re-releases to overtake GwtW. 

Titanic new re-release to maintain the 2nd spot.

[IronJimbo]

5 hours ago, Lothar said:

Star wars is having 40 years of Fanbase yet they failed to achieve what Avatar or Titanic did. I think we shoud compare movies with Titanic rather than Avatar. Because I don't think any SW, MCU, HP or any other movie is going to reach that peak ever or maybe in 2070 when exchange rate is 50$. as @JamesCameronScholar said. Only JC can beat JC. 

2070's pushing it don't you think? They're better off trying in the 22nd century.

[TomCruiseTop]

10 hours ago, Dexter of Suburbia said:

Titanic new re-release to maintain the 2nd spot.

Even without it we'd still have #1. 

 

[BardCrank]

9 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

Even without it we'd still have #1. 

 

This motherfucker will be the first to release a perfectly made Virtual Reality movie to own the top 3 worldwide all time 

[LaughingEvans]

12 hours ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

Fortunately Avatar won't require another 11 re-releases to overtake GwtW. 

Having a re-release means there's interest. I don't see avatar getting there too. 

[IronJimbo]

4 hours ago, LaughingEvans said:

Having a re-release means there's interest. I don't see avatar getting there too. 

Jim's already hinted at a re-release with improved picture quality.

 

Anyone else think Han Solo looks like a bootleg?

 

[rukaio101]

Y'know, considering the guy has the #1 and #2 highest grossing films of all time, it still amazes me how utterly insecure the James Cameron fanboys are on this forums.

[manny1234]

I do not consider Wonder Woman movies part of the DCEU but her own trilogy because of the fact of DCEU 4 movies being handled badly.

[IronJimbo]

2 hours ago, rukaio101 said:

Y'know, considering the guy has the #1 and #2 highest grossing films of all time, it still amazes me how utterly insecure the James Cameron fanboys are on this forums.

It's the exact opposite, I have absolute confidence in Jim. Do you know what insecure even means?

 

 

[rukaio101]

1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

It's the exact opposite, I have absolute confidence in Jim. Do you know what insecure even means?

Call it amateur psychology, but I don't think a secure person feels the need to bring up James Cameron or his movies at every fucking opportunity.

[IronJimbo]

24 minutes ago, rukaio101 said:

Call it amateur psychology, but I don't think a secure person feels the need to bring up James Cameron or his movies at every fucking opportunity.

Why not?

[IronJimbo]

[Mojoguy]

The Black Panther hype is crazy. It is bound to get a high opening weekend, legs are an entirely different matter of course.

I wish Wonder Woman had this much hype, piss poor marketing from WB for that movie. Only a $103m OW.

[Jonwo]

4 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

The Black Panther hype is crazy. It is bound to get a high opening weekend, legs are an entirely different matter of course.

I wish Wonder Woman had this much hype, piss poor marketing from WB for that movie. Only a $103m OW.

$103m is still an impressive OW for any film and it did $400m domestic so it wasn't an issue!

[RobinHood26]

On 1/23/2018 at 3:47 PM, IronJimbo said:

 

List made by lame James Cameron loonies. Not that it changes anything but C'mon, you cant even play fair when you're already in first place, Are you the Patriots?

 

You use the re release numbers for Titanic yet don't include them for films like Jurassic Park or Star Wars? 

Edited February 2, 2018 by Jay Hollywood

[BeastByTheBay]

1 hour ago, Mojoguy said:

The Black Panther hype is crazy. It is bound to get a high opening weekend, legs are an entirely different matter of course.

I wish Wonder Woman had this much hype, piss poor marketing from WB for that movie. Only a $103m OW.

Marketing was no where near piss poor. The OW had the NBA Finals working against it, the stigma solo female CBMs being awful & coming off of two DCEU critical failures. 103M was a great number in that situation and it's run made up for it

Edited February 2, 2018 by BeastByTheBay