CJohn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, Magic said: I don't want them to delay the Blu Ray release for TFA. It will be out of theatres where I am by about the end of January (not many screens where I am, so movies go fast), so the wait for the Blu Ray will feel like too long. Lol. It comes out April 20th here in Australia. January is brutal here this year. Joy, Point Break, Norm of the North, The 5th Wave and The Big Short are all opening between January 7 and January 14 here. I want my Star Wars Bluray by Easter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, Caesar said: Sherlock Holmes is a franchise, a movie like that is likely to have a higher percentage of demand on it's OD yet it dropped by a smaller percentage than Joy, it was also the record for a Christmas day and was far bigger than Joy's OW will be. Also everything around Sherlock Holmes increased that year. Let's say you're right though, Joy follows the pattern of Sherlock Holmes, is that a success if it becomes one of David O. Russell's lowest grossing movies, you're multiplier would have this just reaching above 60M, I'd hardly call that a victory. I never said anything about victory or what it would make. I simply said you can't say WOM is poor because it dropped on December 26th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Oh, and I see Baumer excusing this sub 180M weekend. Should have beat IM3. Let's not pretend this 155M weekend isn't mediocre, because it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 minutes ago, Baumer Fett said: I never said anything about victory or what it would make. I simply said you can't say WOM is poor because it dropped on December 26th. Concussion increased, as did Point Break, both of those are doing business only slightly below Joy and yet Joy has a large drop, a bigger percentage drop than a franchise movie had on the same date in 2009. What else could you blame it on if not poor WOM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jornacio Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If its 58, its like the 5th biggest saturday in History (including openings), also it may be the 24 biggest day in history (so Star Wars will have 4 in the top 25, JW has 2). Simply amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 minutes ago, CJ Ren said: January is brutal here this year. Joy, Point Break, Norm of the North, The 5th Wave and The Big Short are all opening between January 7 and January 14 here. I want my Star Wars Bluray by Easter. It's the same here. We have Creed, Point Break, Sisters and Snow Queen 2 on the 1st, then The Danish Girl, Joy, The Forest and Mustang on the 8th. Point Break will be huge. Creed will do some decent numbers as well methinks. The first Snow Queen was pretty big for an animation. So a crowded market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, Caesar said: Concussion increased, as did Point Break, both of those are doing business only slightly below Joy and yet Joy has a large drop, a bigger percentage drop than a franchise movie had on the same date in 2009. What else could you blame it on if not poor WOM. Joy would have been many people's first choice Xmas day. So are you saying Daddy's Home has bad WOM because that went down on Saturday? Christmas Day audiences know what is coming and what they plan to see. Openers usually always go down on Dec 26. Nothing about what Joy made Saturday tells me anything about its WOM based on how this weekend usually pans out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadermort Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Is 58m the final number for saturday or is it changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirafficPark Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 You dont really need the BO to work out that Joy has 'poor' (or at least average) WOM, the reviews and rating you see from all the usual sources tell you it has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 10 minutes ago, wildphantom said: Joy would have been many people's first choice Xmas day. So are you saying Daddy's Home has bad WOM because that went down on Saturday? Christmas Day audiences know what is coming and what they plan to see. Openers usually always go down on Dec 26. Nothing about what Joy made Saturday tells me anything about its WOM based on how this weekend usually pans out. If you take out previews then Daddy's Home dropped by a far smaller percentage, despite doing significantly bigger business on OD. The simple fact is that of all our comparable movies (one's that opened on a Friday that fell on Christmas) for some reason Joy had the largest drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, Vadermort said: Can you give me the link ? http://www.insidekino.com/News.htm 48 minutes ago, Baumer Fett said: Deadline posted it http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-christmas-weekend-box-office-record-joy-daddys-home-concussion-point-break-1201672899/ think he/she wants to learn about sources (I think he/she was the same user who asked about Gitesh) 34 minutes ago, Magic said: Oh, and I see Baumer excusing this sub 180M weekend. Should have beat IM3. Let's not pretend this 155M weekend isn't mediocre, because it is. As you so often seem to be a tad bit... either over the top or...? In the case it was meant ironically - maybe adding the , so lurkers and newbes (we have a LOT of them for the moment) do not get that confused? If seriously meant... 10 minutes ago, Vadermort said: Is 58m the final number for saturday or is it changing? No, it's not. A very few cinemas are still not didgially reporting the numbers, no idea when they will report theirs during the holiday (not that big of a difference possible), also generally at the weekends not all studios even report numbers, especially during big public holidays a lot of people usually working with BO details are on vacation themselfs. During the weekends you'll see 'estimates' even over the charts by Boxofficemojo.com and Boxoffice.com Small distributer with only a limited release often report details during the week around 17:00-18:00 o'clock my local time (= UK + 1 hour), then usually some waiting times till the next studio is done. Wide releases during the week is often starting around 19:00/20:00 o'clock my time, can take up till after 22:00 till all numbers are really there. Don't forget, incl Alaska the US has quite some timezones, for actuals all numbers have to be in. Weekend related BOs have other times of day. Actuals for the weekend (including corrections per day) we'll get during the year at Monday, if that one isn't a holiday. But earlier. With big blockbusters / surprise success / special... studios give often more in between numbers, especially the oversee numbers tend to get more often reported, or if a movie reached a milestone (or the studio) = extra press releases. But that is not a 'must'. Not every daily BO chart is complete btw, depends on the studio, see beneath plus some smaller distributers. A few months back a small one had a bigger success, was the reason that the top 10 / 20 got reported VERY late in the day If you look at the bottom of the BOM daily charts you'll find this: NOTE: If daily grosses stop for a movie, it means that the respective studio is no longer tracking it on a daily basis. The exceptions are New Line, Miramax/Dimension and Sony Pictures Classics. They don't do official daily box office, and estimates are made for their movies based on partial data in order to fill out the top 12. Because of this, movies from these studios are more apt to disappear from the daily chart. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 20 minutes ago, Caesar said: If you take out previews then Daddy's Home dropped by a far smaller percentage, despite doing significantly bigger business on OD. The simple fact is that of all our comparable movies (one's that opened on a Friday that fell on Christmas) for some reason Joy had the largest drop. I think it's way too early to attribute it's drop (which was minimal) was down to WOM. What did you say when True Grit, Benjamin Button, Django Unchained, Les Mis all dropped on the 26th? Sure they all did bigger business first day, but the same logic applies. I don't think anyone can say with any kind of certainty what Joy's WOM is after 24 hours. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setna Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, Magic said: Oh, and I see Baumer excusing this sub 180M weekend. Should have beat IM3. Let's not pretend this 155M weekend isn't mediocre, because it is. Mediocre???? 155 is tne 99th best weekend all time...and it´s the second one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Caesar im disappointed in you. Shawn used to hold u in such high regard. Surely u can do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setna Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 minutes ago, setna said: 3 minutes ago, setna said: Mediocre???? 155 is tne 99th best weekend all time...and it´s the second one.... Mediocre???? 155 is tne 99th best weekend all time...and it´s the second one.... 9th... of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1stpierre Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 58M!!!!! Yes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I wasn't aware about a lot of the holidays per state till MLK. Or certain holidays not being a public holiday in all states That should too make estimates early on a bit more difficult I guess Holidays in United States in 2015+2016 Dec 24 Thursday The Prophet's Birthday Muslim Dec 24 Thursday Christmas Eve Observance, Christian Dec 24 Thursday Christmas Eve State holiday KS*, LA, MI, NC, ND, OK, SC, TX, VA*, WI Dec 24 Thursday Washington's Birthday State holiday Georgia, Indiana Dec 25 Friday Christmas Day National holiday, Christian Dec 26 Saturday Kwanzaa (until Jan 1) Observance Dec 26 Saturday Day After Christmas Day Observance Dec 26 Saturday Day After Christmas Day State holiday KS, KY, NC, NH, SC, TX Dec 31 Thursday New Year's Eve Observance Dec 31 Thursday New Year's Eve State holiday LA, MI, WI Date Weekday Holiday name Holiday type Where it is observed Jan 1 Friday New Year's Day National holiday Jan 6 Wednesday Epiphany Christian Jan 7 Thursday Orthodox Christmas Day Orthodox Jan 13 Wednesday Stephen Foster Memorial Day Observance Jan 14 Thursday Orthodox New Year Orthodox Jan 15 Friday Lee Jackson Day State holiday Virginia Jan 18 Monday Martin Luther King Day National holiday Jan 18 Monday Robert E Lee's Birthday State holiday Alabama, Arkansas Jan 18 Monday State Holiday State holiday Mississippi Jan 18 Monday Idaho Human Rights Day State holiday Idaho Jan 18 Monday Civil Rights Day State holiday Arizona, New Hampshire Jan 19 Tuesday Robert E Lee's Birthday State holiday Florida Jan 19 Tuesday State Holiday State holiday Texas Jan 25 Monday Tu Bishvat/Tu B'Shevat Jewish holiday Holidays in Canada in 2015 + 2016 Dec 24 Thursday Prophet's Birthday Muslim Dec 24 Thursday Christmas Eve Observance Dec 25 Friday Christmas National holiday, Christian Dec 26 Saturday Boxing Day Common Local holidays MB, NB, NL, NS, ON, PE, YT Dec 31 Thursday New Year's Eve Observance Date Weekday Holiday name Holiday type Where it is observed Jan 1 Friday New Year's Day National holiday Jan 2 Saturday Day After New Year’s Day Local holiday Quebec Jan 6 Wednesday Epiphany Observance, Christian Jan 7 Thursday Orthodox Christmas Day Orthodox Jan 14 Thursday Orthodox New Year Orthodox Jan 25 Monday Tu B'Shevat (Arbor Day) Jewish holiday Feb 2 Tuesday Groundhog Day Observance Feb 8 Monday Family Day Common Local holidays British Columbia Feb 8 Monday Chinese New Year Observance Feb 9 Tuesday Carnival/Shrove Tuesday Christian Feb 10 Wednesday Ash Wednesday Christian Feb 14 Sunday Valentine's Day Observance Feb 15 Monday National Flag of Canada Day Observance Feb 15 Monday Islander Day Common Local holidays Prince Edward Island Feb 15 Monday Family Day Common Local holidays AB, ON, SK Feb 15 Monday Nova Scotia Heritage Day Common Local holidays Nova Scotia Feb 15 Monday Louis Riel Day Common Local holidays Manitoba Feb 26 Friday Yukon Heritage Day Local holiday Yukon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 tried to shorten the post (too many CAN days and empty field = didn't work !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 8 hours ago, Chewy said: I got him pretty riled up here once! Forget what thread, had it as my sig for a while. Think that was the feistiest many of our newer members saw him And you still haven't complied and gotten your street ass beat due to having no friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1stpierre Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 So we should expect a nice drop here, 10% right? I think the theaters around me are going to be slammed today due to the crappy weather. I'm thinking around 53 today, would would put this right at 160. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
