BOT Top 100 Movies of All Time: The Empire Strikes Back... Again... For the Third Time...

[Daxtreme]

On a random note, I just watched Casablanca and holy crap this movie is amazing.

 

A little too much romance for my tastes but this movie is basically perfect as far as story and characters go. The scene where they sing La Marseillaise in the café, that was... shivers 

 

It would most definitely make my top 100 had I watched it earlier 

[peludo]

2 hours ago, Daxtreme said:

On a random note, I just watched Casablanca and holy crap this movie is amazing.

 

A little too much romance for my tastes but this movie is basically perfect as far as story and characters go. The scene where they sing La Marseillaise in the café, that was... shivers 

 

It would most definitely make my top 100 had I watched it earlier 

Glad you liked it. For me, it is the best film ever. People should give more chances to old films. They do not bite.

[baumer]

There Will Be Boredom

Blade Runner top 100?  Um no

Monty Python and the flesh wound is the most ballsiest comedy ever made

Singing in the Rain is the second best musical ever made next to Rock of Ages

Never seen spirited away

[misafeco]

Avengers 

Up 

Blade Runner 

[4815162342]

8 hours ago, The Panda said:

Number 68

Marvel's The Avengers (2012)

 

Changes in Ranking Over Time: 2014 (11, -57), 2013 (37, -21), 2012 (31, -27)

 

 

 

Worth it at least for the massive drop. Next time no spot at all.

[rukaio101]

Christ, Avengers really brings out the whining in people here.

 

Personally, I think the movie entirely deserves its place on this list. That Whedon managed to pull off a concept like that and pull it off so well is nothing short of miraculous. It's fantastically well balanced between the characters, does a great job of fleshing out their interactions, never feels sluggish in its pacing, is constantly entertaining and has one of the best climactic battles in recent memory. Plus it brought and cemented an entirely new concept to cinema in the Cinematic Universe (discounting minor crossovers like Alien vs Predator). It's one of the two superhero movies, along the Dark Knight, that I'd call nigh perfect. So why does it get so much more bloody complaining? 

Edited May 19, 2016 by rukaio101

[Skullpoopl]

8 hours ago, cannastop said:

Gen X?

 

Yep. Born in 1972.

[WrathOfHan]

YES to Blade Runner

There Will Be Blood is good, not Top 100 material but I don't have a problem with it on the list

Up is one of Pixar's weaker movies IMO but still pretty good

 

[cannastop]

Just now, Skullpoopl said:

 

Yep. Born in 1972.

Wow, and I was partly joking.

 

I don't know what age people will think I am when they see my list:

 

Spoiler

1. Apocalypse Now (1979)

2. Vertigo (1958)

3. Taxi Driver (1976)

4. The 400 Blows (1959)

5. Citizen Kane (1941)

6. The Godfather (1972)

7. Seven Samurai (1954)

8. Spirited Away (2001)

9. Singin' in the Rain (1952)

10. Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)

11. Raging Bull (1980)

12. Schindler's List (1993)

13. Akira (1988)

14. Bicycle Thieves (1948)

15. The Godfather Part II (1974)

16. Princess Mononoke (1997)

17. Goodfellas (1990)

18. Zootopia (2016)

19. The Wizard of Oz (1939)

20. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

21. Fargo (1996)

22. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)

23. On The Waterfront (1954)

24. Pinocchio (1940)

25. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

26. Drive (2011)

27. The Incredibles (2004)

28. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

29. 12 Years a Slave (2013)

30. The Secret of NIMH (1982)

31. Inside Out (2015)

32. The Big Lebowski (1998)

33. Rear Window (1954)

34. My Neighbor Totoro (1988)

35. Rashomon (1950)

36. 2001: A Space Oddysey (1968)

37. O Brother, Where Art Thou (2000)

38. Star Wars (1977)

39. The Iron Giant (1999)

40. Frozen (2013)

41. The Lego Movie (2014)

42. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)

43. Ratatouille (2007)

44. Finding Nemo (2003)

45. Grave of the Fireflies (1988)

46. Duck Soup (1933)

47. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)

48. The Sixth Sense (1999)

49. Stagecoach (1939)

50. The Lion King (1994)

51. The Social Network (2010)

52. Airplane! (1980)

53. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

54. Spider-Man (2002)

55. Spider-Man 2 (2004)

56. The Dark Knight (2008)

57. Blazing Saddles (1974)

58. Young Frankenstein (1974)

59. Forrest Gump (1994)

60. Tootsie (1982)

61. Dr. Strangelove (1964)

62. Animal House (1978)

63. North by Northwest (1959)

64. A Night at the Opera (1935)

65. Big (1988)

66. Titanic (1997)

67. The Terminator (1984)

68. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)

69. Toy Story (1995)

70. Toy Story 2 (1999)

71. Toy Story 3 (2010)

72. Oldboy (2003)

73. Beetlejuice (1988)

74. Ghostbusters (1984)

75. The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)

76. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)

77. Back to the Future (1985)

78. Edward Scissorhands (1990)

79. Monsters, Inc. (2001)

80. Spaceballs (1987)

81. Galaxy Quest (1999)

82. Searching for Bobby Fischer (1993)

83. Moneyball (2011)

84. The Princess Bride (1987)

85. Lilo & Stitch (2002)

86. How to Train Your Dragon (2010)

87. Coraline (2009)

88. Gremlins (1984)

89. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

90. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

91. American Beauty (1999)

92. Boys Don't Cry (1999)

93. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)

94. Christmas Vacation (1989)

95. Bambi (1942)

96. The Exorcist (1973)

97. Wreck-It Ralph (2012)

98. Superman (1978) 

99. Aladdin (1992)

100. Return of the Jedi (1983)

30s: 4

40s: 5

50s: 8

60s: 4

70s: 10

80s: 21

90s: 21

00s: 14

10s: 13

[4815162342]

31 minutes ago, rukaio101 said:

It's one of the two superhero movies, along the Dark Knight, that I'd call nigh perfect. So why does it get so much more bloody complaining? 

 

Because it's not?

 

The first half of the film has sluggish pacing and it doesn't truly get going until Loki is captured on the Helicarrier. Before that it's a lot of moving pieces around a board to get the plot lined up and ready to start.

[peludo]

My breakdown by decades:

 

20s: 1

30s: 6

40s: 13

50s: 12

60s: 14

70s: 13

80s: 13

90s: 15

00s: 11

10s: 2

[cannastop]

5 minutes ago, peludo said:

My breakdown by decades:

 

20s: 1

30s: 6

40s: 13

50s: 12

60s: 14

70s: 13

80s: 13

90s: 15

00s: 11

10s: 2

You clearly are an even-handed 60 year old.

[peludo]

Just now, cannastop said:

You clearly are an even-handed 60 year old.

... or I have good taste  I am 35

[rukaio101]

26 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Because it's not?

 

The first half of the film has sluggish pacing and it doesn't truly get going until Loki is captured on the Helicarrier. Before that it's a lot of moving pieces around a board to get the plot lined up and ready to start.

I'd entirely disagree on the sluggish pacing point. It's set-up, yes, but it's well-paced, entertaining and necessary set-up. There's not a single scene in the first half I can think of that I felt went on too long or too short and it's remarkably well balanced between all the necessary characters. Plus, the humour helps keep it light and interesting. Yes, there are a lot of moving pieces about, but said pieces are entertaining and likeable characters and still get some good interactions with each other, plus it all pays off excellently down the line. And again, remarkably well balanced. It doesn't feel like any one character is taking the center or hogging the limelight which is a key feature in what makes the movie work so well as a team-up. And that balancing act is difficult as hell. I have nothing but props to the writing of Avengers for pulling that off.

 

The one thing I will concede is that calling it 'perfect' was obvious hyperbole, since no film is perfect, but I struggle to conceive of a way Avengers, for what they were aiming for, could've been done better.

 

EDIT: Besides which, does 'slightly sluggish pacing in first half' really justify all the bitching it's been getting so far? If I were in the mood to do so, I could probably find an equivalent problem in every other movie on this list. 

Edited May 19, 2016 by rukaio101

[Ezen Baklattan]

2 hours ago, Baumer said:

Singing in the Rain is the second best musical ever made

 

Very nice, Baumer!

 

2 hours ago, Baumer said:

next to Rock of Ages

 

 

 

[baumer]

Avengers is nearly perfect

[Ethan Hunt]

You known how I said Civil War is just okay? Yeah well its still better than The Avemgers

[4815162342]

1 hour ago, rukaio101 said:

I'd entirely disagree on the sluggish pacing point. It's set-up, yes, but it's well-paced, entertaining and necessary set-up. There's not a single scene in the first half I can think of that I felt went on too long or too short and it's remarkably well balanced between all the necessary characters. Plus, the humour helps keep it light and interesting. Yes, there are a lot of moving pieces about, but said pieces are entertaining and likeable characters and still get some good interactions with each other, plus it all pays off excellently down the line. And again, remarkably well balanced. It doesn't feel like any one character is taking the center or hogging the limelight which is a key feature in what makes the movie work so well as a team-up. And that balancing act is difficult as hell. I have nothing but props to the writing of Avengers for pulling that off.

 

The one thing I will concede is that calling it 'perfect' was obvious hyperbole, since no film is perfect, but I struggle to conceive of a way Avengers, for what they were aiming for, could've been done better.

 

EDIT: Besides which, does 'slightly sluggish pacing in first half' really justify all the bitching it's been getting so far? If I were in the mood to do so, I could probably find an equivalent problem in every other movie on this list. 

 

Avengers dukes it out with Thor for #6 in my MCU rankings.

 

It's a high B+ film. Nothing wrong with that.

[rukaio101]

31 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Avengers dukes it out with Thor for #6 in my MCU rankings.

 

It's a high B+ film. Nothing wrong with that.

And I got no issues with you personally considering it a B+ film. Different strokes and all that. It's just the excess of whining (even for these lists) that always shows up when this film appears bugs me, especially since I rarely hear much good reason as to why it's so undeserving. You may think it has a sluggish first half but is that first half so bad as to justify this level of complaining? Hell, are you telling me that you think a movie that you personally rate a high B+ is that undeserving of a place on a group list?

 

Not to say I think everyone should adore it, mind. I got nothing against people who wouldn't rank it in their top 100 or would prefer not to see it on the list. I'm just annoyed because of the level of complaining and double standards it gets.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

3 hours ago, rukaio101 said:

Christ, Avengers really brings out the whining in people here.

 

Personally, I think the movie entirely deserves its place on this list. That Whedon managed to pull off a concept like that and pull it off so well is nothing short of miraculous. It's fantastically well balanced between the characters, does a great job of fleshing out their interactions, never feels sluggish in its pacing, is constantly entertaining and has one of the best climactic battles in recent memory. Plus it brought and cemented an entirely new concept to cinema in the Cinematic Universe (discounting minor crossovers like Alien vs Predator). It's one of the two superhero movies, along the Dark Knight, that I'd call nigh perfect. So why does it get so much more bloody complaining? 

Because there is no sense conflict, danger, or tension in the film.  Almost all the one liners do not work.