CoolioD1 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 eh, Thomas Newman should have won that year. But if Zimmer didn't have an oscar his fanboys would be even more annoying. so i'll take that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said: eh, Thomas Newman should have won that year. But if Zimmer didn't have an oscar his fanboys would be even more annoying. so i'll take that deal. Gotta thank Menken for that. Without him, voters might not have gotten used to giving Disney movies both music awards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 zimmers score admittedly utilizes the songs way less than menken did. probably because he didn't write them, i think if he had used the songs for his themes he'd be ineligible (like the guy who did the frozen score). pretty big disconnect between his score and the elton john tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said: zimmers score admittedly utilizes the songs way less than menken did. probably because he didn't write them, i think if he had used the songs for his themes he'd be ineligible (like the guy who did the frozen score). pretty big disconnect between his score and the elton john tunes. The disconnect isn't a bad thing at all. Gives diversity to the soundtrack. Not sure what the rules were more than 20 years ago. And without Hans Zimmer and Lebo Morake, "The Circle of Life" wouldn't be nearly as iconic as it is. Edited January 11, 2017 by cannastop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, 4815162342 said: Except the traditional practice is to distinguish between songs and dramatic underscoring in terms of music. When a lot of the dramatic underscoring uses themes from the songs, the underscoring is less original because of its dependence on other material. I'm not disparaging the music in La La Land, just questioning the appropriateness of calling the dramatic underscoring as a whole "original." The academy is weird, as that shouldn't be a standard in the first place. I don't see how implementing and expanding upon themes from original music in the musical makes the movie's score not-original at all. But there are a number of themes used in the score that aren't from the songs too. Such as Mia and Sebastian's theme, and various instrumental, jazz sections. I think it should qualify for original score, but then again I think any original musical should qualify for original score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Doctor Strange Hidden Figures La La Land Lion Moonlight Alt: Patriot's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 My final predictions: Hidden Figures. Score is great. Film is at its peak. Zimmer is well respected by AMPAS. And Pharrell name attached to it adds power. La La Land. Another great score. A great romantic theme. Lot's of jazz. Vivid and memorable. And it is much more than just instrumental arrangements of the songs. Bonus points: the songs are written by the same composer. Moonlight. Powerful yet simple themes. BP heat. Subtle but really enjoyable on its own. Doctor Strange. Giacchino is on a roll and he has finished the year with two great scores. While R1 score is excellent, his theme for DS is awesome with the addition of weird and effective baroque/rock/eastern sounds not usually seen together. I am beting AMPAS music branch will embrace the gorgeous The Master of the Mystic End Credits. Lion. Moving theme. Quite solid. And it's a BP movie. Other contenders that will not happen, IMHO. Moana. Mark Mancina score is nice. But lacks something really memorable. Nocturnal Animals. Solid, but I can't feel it. Jackie. After hearing a lot of strong buzz for Mica Levi, I was really disappointed with the score. Under the skin was better. Anyways, not my kind of scores... And neither is for AMPAS music branch. Florence Foster Jenkins. You never know with Desplat, but this year looks a bit weaker than others, isnt it? BFG. It's trully enjoyable with a beautiful theme, and they love Williams, but he's not nommed for everything. And this sounds a bit too much like a sum of Tintin, HP and Hook. Passengers. It will be closer to a nom than most expect. They like a lot Thomas Newman and this is a solid score full of his style. But too many contenders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 2:50 PM, slambros said: I was surprised to see La La Land win for score at the Globes because when you think about it, most of the music borrows from the songs. What if the songs borrow from the score? Everyone is assuming that first came the songs. Listening to Hurwitz work as a whole, my perception is he wrote some nice/great jazz motifs (song or not) and then he worked in the musical universe of La La Land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Nicholas Brittel, Moonlight John Debney, The Jungle Book Justin Hurwitz, La La Land Mica Levi, Jackie John Williams, The BFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just sayin but Tangled should've won Best Original Score just for the epic Kingdom Dance. That piece is a MASTERPIECE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 ALL ABOUT THIS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Sorry, but this track is the definitive proof Jackie won't be nommed, IMHO. It's not that original, nor memorable. Also AMPAS usually root for melodic scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On 19/01/2017 at 11:56 AM, stripe said: Doctor Strange. Giacchino is on a roll and he has finished the year with two great scores. While R1 score is excellent, his theme for DS is awesome with the addition of weird and effective baroque/rock/eastern sounds not usually seen together. I am beting AMPAS music branch will embrace the gorgeous The Master of the Mystic End Credits. Giacchino didn't write that track. Rooting for Korzeniowski. Nocturnal Animals isn't my favourite score by him (still pretty good) but the dude wrote some incredible music for Penny Dreadful. Hoping a nod might give his career a boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 12 hours ago, ddddeeee said: Giacchino didn't write that track. Rooting for Korzeniowski. Nocturnal Animals isn't my favourite score by him (still pretty good) but the dude wrote some incredible music for Penny Dreadful. Hoping a nod might give his career a boost. He composed the theme, isn't it? He also wrote the baroque variations (there is a single track with that variations). I have not heard of any other composer. McCartney praised this score while Giacchino was recording it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/23/2017 at 8:50 AM, stripe said: Sorry, but this track is the definitive proof Jackie won't be nommed, IMHO. It's not that original, nor memorable. Also AMPAS usually root for melodic scores. "definitive proof"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, CoolioD1 said: "definitive proof"? He has his alternative facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said: "definitive proof"? Shitty Score noms this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 i actually think they're great this year! jackie is of course the best but the rest are strong. will never see passengers probably but listened to score and i'm always here for the Newman goodness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Yeah, Passengers looks like ass, but the production design in the trailers did legitimately look fascinating, and Thomas Newman getting more love is always awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 hours ago, stripe said: He composed the theme, isn't it? He also wrote the baroque variations (there is a single track with that variations). I have not heard of any other composer. McCartney praised this score while Giacchino was recording it. I don't have the CD with me (I've moved for work) but in the booklet that track is credited to some other guy whose name I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
