Wednesday Box Office - (Asgard pg 17) R1 about 15, Sing 11, Ass 4.5, Pass 4.1, Moana 2.2

[YM!]

Came back from Collateral Beauty alive. It was average.

[grey ghost]

24 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

alt right would overturn right wing government? hmm

 

You know what I meant dammit. 

 

I was referring to the authority or government from each movie I mentioned.

 

Not the anti-establishment protagonist. 

Edited December 22, 2016 by grey ghost

[MovieMan89]

7 minutes ago, straggler said:

It really never has. Heck during the hpeak of the Stallone/Arnold box office wars you had Rhinestone, Cobra, Running Man, etc. At the end of the day this had a blacklist script, a seemingly very talented director, and a major co-star. It just happens.  

I don't know about that. I think in the history of film throughout the entire 20th century, star power was by far the most important factor in a movie's success. People really couldn't have cared less what critics thought pre-internet prominence, as they were widely stereotyped by the GA as crusty old art farts who had no touch with reality. Of course Ebert would be one of the first big exceptions to get people to care about critics, but overall "who's in it" was something that I think was always on people's lips about a new film before the internet age. That's why certain genres like the rom-com have died off, because they were entirely dependent on that superstar name that doesn't quite exist now. I think that toxic WOM has always mattered, but it seems like in a decade like the 90's certain actors could open virtually anything to a strong start and have a lot more bend with audiences in terms of actual film quality.

[straggler]

1 minute ago, RandomJC said:

 

Which is why it starred and was centered around Hugh Jackman.

It was a star part, the person everyone in the film is talking about even when she was not on screen. Not just anyone could fill those shoes with a cast that significant. But believe otherwise.  Still I agree the fanboys would have spontaneously combusted if she was being followed frame to frame. 

[terrestrial]

excuse me for daring to be so OT to post in the Dailies thread

 

 

 

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice56 minutes ago

Weinstein's LION will finally expand into moderate wide release in 500+ theaters on Christmas Day.

[terrestrial]

#1 is still only estimates

 

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Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday December 21st, 2016

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		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
1	(1)	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	Walt Disney	$15,000,000	-15%	4,157	$3,608	$205,260,809	6
2	new	Sing	Universal	$11,010,175		4,022	$2,737	$11,010,175	1
-	(3)	Office Christmas Party	Paramount Pictures	$1,240,561	-18%	3,059	$406	$35,736,474	13
-	(8)	Arrival	Paramount Pictures	$306,638	-37%	1,091	$281	$87,947,199	41
-	(11)	Nocturnal Animals	Focus Features	$115,605	-46%	1,246	$93	$9,366,073	34
-	(12)	Allied	Paramount Pictures	$72,493	-65%	414	$175	$39,031,916	29
-	(-)	Lion	Weinstein Co.	$53,380	+134%	53	$1,007	$798,278	27
-	(14)	Almost Christmas	Universal	$50,845	-42%	720	$71	$41,440,565	41
-	(-)	Loving	Focus Features	$25,711	-47%	396	$65	$7,228,166	48
-	(-)	Miss Sloane	EuropaCorp	$20,027	-76%	1,463	$14	$3,374,229	27
-	(-)	Jack Reacher: Never Go Back	Paramount Pictures	$17,515	-21%	198	$88	$58,332,181	62
-	(-)	Fences	Paramount Pictures	$15,208	-1%	4	$3,802	$175,182	6
-	(-)	The Secret Life of Pets	Universal	$11,310	-5%	165	$69	$368,256,695	167
-	(-)	The Edge of Seventeen	STX Entertainment	$10,032	-53%	221	$45	$14,319,691	34
-	(-)	The Girl on the Train	Universal	$8,325	-16%	112	$74	$75,338,040	76
-	(-)	Incarnate	High Top Releasing	$4,516	-76%	318	$14	$4,777,253	20
-	(-)	Shut In	EuropaCorp	$3,389	-17%	78	$43	$6,876,720	41
-	(-)	Believe	Smith Global Media	$923	-77%	42	$22	$881,555	20

 

 

Edited December 22, 2016 by terrestrial

[RandomCat]

1 minute ago, straggler said:

It was a star part, the person everyone in the film is talking about even when she was not on screen. Not just anyone could fill those shoes with a cast that significant. But believe otherwise.  Still I agree the fanboys would have spontaneously combusted if she was being followed frame to frame. 

 

You watched a different movie than I did. Wolverine was what the movie was sold on, what it survived on. He's primary protagonist, Mystique was step above McGuffin.

[babz06]

52 minutes ago, bcf26 said:

Is it now safe to say that Jennifer Lawrence and Chis Pratt are not draws?

Rogue One and bad reviews probably hurt this film more than any other factor. Still if it does end up crossing 100m i'd credit that to the stars. 

Jennifer has a few more non-franchise type hits on her resume than Pratt does, so i'd say she is a draw. Pratt has only co-starred with two established stars so the jury is still out on him. Mag 7  did typical Denzel numbers, his presence made no difference, in fact it likely would have made less without Denzel. 

[terrestrial]

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Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday December 21st, 2016

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Chart Index

 

		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
1	(1)	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	Walt Disney	$14,965,790	-15%	4,157	$3,600	$205,226,599	6
2	new	Sing	Universal	$11,010,175		4,022	$2,737	$11,010,175	1
-	(2)	Moana	Walt Disney	$2,126,327	-31%	3,587	$593	$170,457,987	29
-	(3)	Office Christmas Party	Paramount Pictures	$1,240,561	-18%	3,059	$406	$35,736,474	13
-	(4)	Collateral Beauty	Warner Bros.	$854,192	-30%	3,028	$282	$10,095,862	6
-	(5)	Fantastic Beasts and Where …	Warner Bros.	$734,502	-31%	1,966	$374	$210,467,126	34
-	(7)	La La Land	Lionsgate	$603,205	-2%	200	$3,016	$7,198,823	13
-	(8)	Arrival	Paramount Pictures	$306,638	-37%	1,091	$281	$87,947,199	41
-	(9)	Doctor Strange	Walt Disney	$252,769	-38%	1,930	$131	$227,330,731	48
-	(11)	Nocturnal Animals	Focus Features	$115,605	-46%	1,246	$93	$9,366,073	34
-	(13)	Hacksaw Ridge	Lionsgate	$74,434	-55%	544	$137	$63,290,828	48
-	(12)	Allied	Paramount Pictures	$72,493	-65%	414	$175	$39,031,916	29
-	new	Patriots Day	Lionsgate	$64,644		7	$9,235	$64,644	1
-	(-)	Lion	Weinstein Co.	$53,380	+134%	53	$1,007	$798,278	27
-	(14)	Almost Christmas	Universal	$50,845	-42%	720	$71	$41,440,565	41
-	(-)	Storks	Warner Bros.	$34,989	-1%	235	$149	$71,985,083	90
-	(-)	Loving	Focus Features	$25,711	-47%	396	$65	$7,228,166	48
-	(-)	Miss Sloane	EuropaCorp	$20,027	-76%	1,463	$14	$3,374,229	27
-	(-)	Jack Reacher: Never Go Back	Paramount Pictures	$17,515	-21%	198	$88	$58,332,181	62
-	(-)	Fences	Paramount Pictures	$15,208	-1%	4	$3,802	$175,182	6
-	(-)	The Accountant	Warner Bros.	$14,601	-42%	155	$94	$85,390,322	69
-	(-)	The Secret Life of Pets	Universal	$11,310	-5%	165	$69	$368,256,695	167
-	(-)	The Polar Express	Warner Bros.	$10,694	-21%	129	$83	$185,538,146	4,425
-	(-)	Tyler Perry’s Boo! A Made…	Lionsgate	$10,582	-18%	110	$96	$73,193,919	62
-	(-)	The Edge of Seventeen	STX Entertainment	$10,032	-53%	221	$45	$14,319,691	34
-	(-)	Sully	Warner Bros.	$8,701	+2%	94	$93	$124,853,786	104
-	(-)	The Girl on the Train	Universal	$8,325	-16%	112	$74	$75,338,040	76
-	(-)	Incarnate	High Top Releasing	$4,516	-76%	318	$14	$4,777,253	20
-	(-)	Shut In	EuropaCorp	$3,389	-17%	78	$43	$6,876,720	41
-	(-)	Believe	Smith Global Media	$923	-77%	42	$22	$881,555	20

 

too busy to do the usual deleting thing to clean up

[ban1o]

10 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

excuse me for daring to be so OT to post in the Dailies thread

 

 

 

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice56 minutes ago

Weinstein's LION will finally expand into moderate wide release in 500+ theaters on Christmas Day.

Distribution of Lion sucks imo. 

[FantasticBeasts]

If anything, Passengers' numbers show that J Law and Pratt ARE draws. If it wasn't for them, the movie wouldn't have grossed anything..

[terrestrial]

the theatre count of The-Numbers for Wednesday seems to be off, or they changed the counts during the evening or.... does not match at all with BOMs theatre count for 21 December

[DealWithIt]

2 hours ago, superweirdo87 said:

 

First, Tele, I think you're right that avoiding gossip and fluff helps avoid the hate. Media coverage and tone factor in.

 

It's fine for her to negotiate a good deal. But, demanding 20M is going to bring scrutiny and doing it on a risky project had the potential for negative blowback. 

 

This movie wasn't remotely risky for her. She's a well established star and the movie just ended up not too good. It happens to every actor at some point. 

[TalismanRing]

19 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

If anything, Passengers' numbers show that J Law and Pratt ARE draws. If it wasn't for them, the movie wouldn't have grossed anything..

 

With $110m budget supported by marketing that started in May - whatever one may think of the quality of that marketing -?   This isn't some $10m indie with radio ads living and breathing on reviews and WOM. 

 

Edited December 22, 2016 by TalismanRing

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

the theatre count of The-Numbers for Wednesday seems to be off, or they changed the counts during the evening or.... does not match at all with BOMs theatre count for 21 December

 

Yeah, they just used the numbers from yesterday.  You can tell by the drops which movies had their huge theater cuts already

[superweirdo87]

8 minutes ago, DealWithIt said:

 

This movie wasn't remotely risky for her. She's a well established star and the movie just ended up not too good. It happens to every actor at some point. 

 

I don't know. It was original material with some controversial storytelling. So, it was not as sure a bet to not flop as The Hunger Games franchise, or Marvel, DC, adaptations, etc.

 

Many actors do work in movies that turn out bad.  But, some of them take pay cuts for material that is not a sure thing.

It is also worth noting that with stardom, it is a serendipitous thing. A couple of bombs or underperformers, or a number of them and one can ggo from A-list to B-list.

Edited December 22, 2016 by superweirdo87

[DealWithIt]

3 hours ago, Treecraft said:

implying either jennifer lawrence or chris pratt have star power

 

Lawrence absolutely does. Pratt is still new but his performance in Guardians alone made him a star, despite someone with a straight face saying Kellan Lutz of Twilight fame (I hate myself for knowing he was in those movies) would have helped the movie make the same amount of money. I mean, we all remember that Gladiator movie or whatever it was that Lutz starred in, right? Big money maker! 

[terrestrial]

the-numbers tweets this chart is it for now, beside not finished.

 

I guess we will have either to check repeatedly for updates /as usual) or wait for BOM

 

I have a question:

 

are people aware about foreign people do not understand all the abbreviations, or non fanfic or non gamer whatever might have no idea about what was written here?

 

Plus trying to check if something was already posted before posting makes it rather impossible to avoid to 'work' through what had happened here?

 

I have still no idea what the most as even about, and for now am not interested to learn it

 

I guess that is for a Thursday thread? @Grand Moff Tele ?

 

Deadline Hollywood ‏@Deadline  1 minute ago

‘Rogue One’ Targets $221.7M Opening Week, ‘Sing’ Raises Voice To $20M Over Two Days – Noon Update http://deadline.com/2016/12/rogue-one-jennifer-lawrence-passengers-sing-assassins-creed-1201875103/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter …

 

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THURSDAY’S BOX OFFICE: Disney/Lucasfilm’s Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is expected to increase today by 10% over  its $15M Wednesday for $16.5M bringing its first week’s tally to $221.7M. Pic is expected to gross $100M over four-days, which by the end of Monday could brings its running cume to $321M-plus.

 

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Sing is looking at $9M today, down an estimated 18% for a two day take of $20M per industry projections. The movie received an A CinemaScore last night,

Passengers should ease 30% from yesterday’s $4.1M for $2.9M and a two day take of $7M. It received a B CinemaScore last night.

 

Assassin’s Creed is expected to decline 50% for $2.3M today and $6.9M over two days. Videogame fans gave it a B+ yesterday. The movie opened No. 1 today in France with $1.8M, -18% from Rogue One‘s opening day there, and defeating the first day of former video game movie champ Lara Croft 2. Though carrying a production cost of $125M, the notion is that this movie will resonate bigger abroad like a Resident Evil which can post 60% or more of its global tally in foreign ticket sales.

 

Edited December 22, 2016 by terrestrial

[superweirdo87]

14 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

With $110m budget supported by marketing that started in May - whatever what may think of the quality of that marketing?   This isn't some $10m indie with radio ads living and breathing on reviews and WOM. 

 

Also, Pratt and J. Law came at a high price. They got 32M, and the movie might not open much higher. If having the two of them boosted tickets by 10M altogether, but they cost 32M, then that's not a great trade-off.

[DealWithIt]

Jennifer Lawrence starred in a movie as the inventor of the Miracle Mop and the movie ended up grossing just over $100 million dollars despite middling reviews that still praised her performance. 

 

No star power though. 

Edited December 22, 2016 by DealWithIt