Wednesday Box Office - (Asgard pg 17) R1 about 15, Sing 11, Ass 4.5, Pass 4.1, Moana 2.2

[druv10]

8 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

I till think people shouldn't look too much at Sherlock Holmes in terthms of increases. The higher the numbers, the lower the increases. That's how it is. 
I wouldn't be surprised by a sub 100% jump on Christmas Day. 

Christmas day is movie going day on steroids. I don't see a sub 100% jump. If I went with Sherlock that movie jumped 146.5% so 110% is quite bit less.

[MovieMan89]

Even King Kong didn't jump 100% on Xmas day Sunday, and it made a mere $4.5m that saturday. I say next to no way R1 hits a 100% increase. 

Edited December 22, 2016 by MovieMan89

[Plain Old Tele]

I confess I'm much less familiar with how Disney movies are marketed overseas... but I guess I should include the caveat that I'm also not 100% that Disney itself does all the OS marketing. There may be some variation from territory to territory -- if anyone knows I could use the clarification. 

[MovieMan89]

Also remember Game of Shadows seemed to have a bizarrely deflated OW, as evidenced by the completely insane legs that followed. That was one movie people definitely held off on seeing on OW. 

[terrestrial]

16 minutes ago, Celedhring said:

At least in the Spanish market, Moana's Vaiana's marketing was terrible. I legit didn't learn about the title change the same week the film came out, and marketing was extremely low-key, which aggravated the brand confusion further, since the film had still been called "Moana" in some materials earlier in the marketing cycle. And this is a market were animated films tend to perform really well, so no reason for a muted release. Now there's a decent chance that it will finish behind Trolls.

Here it is still Vaiana - the paradise has a hook 

I learned that younger people often look at especially YT for cinema news for them-self, with both names in use the name changing didn't help I think, but only to a degree, I think again?

[druv10]

2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Even King Kong didn't jump 100% on Xmas day Sunday, and it made a mere $4.5m that saturday. I say next to no way R1 hits a 100% increase. 

Same way, Sherlock hit 146.5% so noway it misses 100%+ increase.

[IronJimbo]

43 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

Disney's marketing team is excellent, second to no one.

tele dont tilt me

[Gopher]

Moana's gonna be fine, I think. It's not losing many theaters on Sunday. If it loosely follows Tintin it'll be pulling ~4 mil a day next week and should cross 210 mil by New Year's Day. Respectable run - should finish ahead of Ralph, Big Hero 6 and Tangled - that just didn't become an event for WDAS like Zootopia or Frozen. 

[XO21]

Wut Passengers 53% male, that's more surprising than BO numbers

 

[Jake Gittes]

Is La La Land getting that 700+ theater expansion on Friday or on Sunday?

[aabattery]

10 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

I confess I'm much less familiar with how Disney movies are marketed overseas... but I guess I should include the caveat that I'm also not 100% that Disney itself does all the OS marketing. There may be some variation from territory to territory -- if anyone knows I could use the clarification. 

 

From a quick look, Walt Disney does seem to distribute all their films in NZ. Paramount and some others often use distributors like Roadshow here, but Disney seems pretty content in managing their own stuff. I can't find anything on who markets their stuff here, Walt Disney does have an office in Auckland. A quick Google search shows some LinkedIn profiles of people with titles like ‎'Commercial Director New Zealand at The Walt Disney Company', so if I had to hazard a guess it looks like they somewhat manage their own marketing here.

 

I also found this site, which has some pretty comprehensive BO reports on NZ, which is neat.

[robertman2]

2 minutes ago, XO21 said:

Wut Passengers 53% male, that's more surprising than BO numbers

 

[Nova]

6 minutes ago, XO21 said:

Wut Passengers 53% male, that's more surprising than BO numbers

 

To me it's not all that surprising because Sony marketed it as a Sci-Fi film. 

 

Ass fell 50% today 

[Daxtreme]

MovieMan you can't just handpick the worst days from King Kong's run and say Rogue One will perform like that, and then completely ignore the other days and say the end multiplier will suck.

 

If Rogue One follows King Kong it's gonna end up with a 4.36 multiplier. Of course I don't think it will reach a 4.36 multiplier, but if you select one particular week-end, or a set of weekdays, where King Kong underperformed for some reason, apply that to Rogue One, and then proceed to ignore the rest of the run...

 

it just doesn't work that way 

 

Plus, you know, the whole King Kong is 11 years old so maybe its daily patterns don't apply to a 2016 movie anymore... kinda thing 

On that subject, I also recall last year lots of people (myself included) falling into the trap of comparing TFA dailies with LOTR dailies.  LOTR is just too old, movies perform differently now. 

[filmlover]

7 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Is La La Land getting that 700+ theater expansion on Friday or on Sunday?

Sunday 

[Celedhring]

29 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

I confess I'm much less familiar with how Disney movies are marketed overseas... but I guess I should include the caveat that I'm also not 100% that Disney itself does all the OS marketing. There may be some variation from territory to territory -- if anyone knows I could use the clarification. 

 

They have joint operations in some markets, direct control in others. Since the Common Market came around in the 1990s they have tried to bring everything in Europe under the same umbrella, but it's not as practical/easy since some of their partners (other major studios like WB, Sony... or local partners like Gaumont in France) have too strong relationships to give up, plus you have to take into account this is not the US and regional cultural differences are much larger between territories - so you have a bit of a patchwork of direct subsidiaries and joint ventures. But there's of course a modicum of coordination. In Spain, they handle everything themselves, and the same branch handles Portugal, too. 

Edited December 22, 2016 by Celedhring

[babz06]

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Passengers should ease 30% from yesterday’s $4.1M for $2.9M and a two day take of $7M. It received a B CinemaScore last night. No ‘A’s here among demos, but those under 25 gave it a B+. Jennifer Lawrence fans were out in force at 42%, giving it a B, while Chris Pratt’s club repped 36% also giving it a B.  Overall, Passengers was male heavy at 53%, 61% over 25.

 

 

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Assassin‘s pulled in 65% males, 52% over 25. Those under 18 who turned up at 21% gave it an A-. Sixty-five percent came out because they love Assassin’s Creed while 20% where Michael Fassbender fans (B+).

 

 

Interesting demo numbers. This is probably why Deadline believes Creed will be frontloaded. 

Edited December 22, 2016 by babz06

[terrestrial]

5 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tele said:

I confess I'm much less familiar with how Disney movies are marketed overseas... but I guess I should include the caveat that I'm also not 100% that Disney itself does all the OS marketing. There may be some variation from territory to territory -- if anyone knows I could use the clarification. 

 

Disney took over in steps in a lot of countries as the distributor. It distributes also in a lot of countries local films (see e.g. Italy = walt disney s.m.p. italia, South America countries,...) and is as such present in the country per some people at least. In some former eastern block countries are some other companies for ... reasons still the distributors, in others I think the countries are simply too small to justify an own representation or again, local / historical reasons other distributors.

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In Germany e.g. Disney's people are... known to be hard to negotiate with as cinema owners, here they are definitive on-site (term? in a country) and also the ones overlooking e.g. Netherlands

in some countries still named Buena Vista acc. Wiki

 

In some countries cooperation with other distributors, like together with Sony in Russia (acc Wiki)

 

per BOM, countries where Disney is not its own distributor:

Serbia, Montenegro = Taramount

Bolivia = Manfer

Czech = Falcon

Turkey = UIP

Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria = Forum Films

Iceland = Samfilm

Greece = Feelgood

Slovenia = 2ifilm

Slovakia = Saturn

South Africa = Ster Kinekor

Vietnam = CJ Ent.

 

Latvia, Lithuania, Oman, = no info

 

South Korea = not sure, in the past together with Sony, but Sony is out of self-distributing there since 31 Dec 2014.

 

China I am not sure how to call it, but it is Disney.

 

There is a lot of Disney to see in the per country lists of a film.

 

= that's only a fast summary without digging out old files = a fast glance at Wiki, screendaily and BOM

 

 

[Fancyarcher]

4 hours ago, Mango said:

  

I think a movie in the Zelda or Halo universes could end up really good. There's a lot of lore in those series that could lend itself to a motion picture.

 

Zelda has so much potential as a film, Nintendo will never likely allow it to happen (for obvious reasons), and they'll probably screw-it-up anyway. 

[filmlover]

Will Assassin's Creed even make more than Warcraft? It's obviously gonna fall off of the face of the Earth the minute the holidays are over.