Tues #s (Asgard pg 136) R1 22.4 Sing 17.7 Pass 6 Moan 4.6 Ass 3.6 WH 3.4 Fen 3.1 LLL 2.6

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, robertman2 said:

Would Lego Star Wars count as a video game movie?

 

Does Lego Batman count as one?

[4815162342]

3 minutes ago, robertman2 said:

Would Lego Star Wars count as a video game movie?

 

Only if it was based on one of the Lego Star Wars video games.

[PPZVGOS]

19 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

The dollar is way more stronger than it was 6 months ago, that s why R1 will struggle to match Civil War numbers OS.

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely correct. Forgot to mention it earlier. 

 

Edited December 27, 2016 by PPZVGOS

[DeeCee]

AUD. The 4 day weekend for R1 was AUD4.48m. Boxing Day Monday was AUD2.21m alone. 

 

 

 

NZD

 

 

[YM!]

The thing that hurt the most Moana wasn't the ethnicity of the main characters but it was the competition both Domestic and Worldwide. Moana had to deal with Strange. Rogue One, Beasts, Sing, and to a lesser extent Trolls.

[robertman2]

11 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Only if it was based on one of the Lego Star Wars video games.

Time to remake the OT with Legos

14 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Does Lego Batman count as one?

I dunno

[Xavier]

1 hour ago, terrestrial said:

1. Are you earnestly trying to compare a film out longer / released for a longer time (and more complete as in the whole market), with a very much better to Christmas matching story to a ~ newly released film's 2nd weekend, that is not even released everywhere yet?

Plus age skewing,... A fantasy film vs a war Sci-Fi. At Christmas....

 

Was that really a seriously meant question? 

 

2. Per law e.g. UK, per custom and or regulation in every catholic or protestant European country in the MEZ time zone, Greenwich time zone,...

I am not sure about the Russian part, as that is the Orthodox Church of the early January is Christmas time variation (The Russian, Belorussian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Macedonian, Georgian and Jerusalemite churches, as well as the monasteries of Mount Athos)

acc. wikipedia those follow 'our' calendar: Ecumenical Patriarchy, Alexandria, Antioch, Romania, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Greece (except the Republic of Athos monasteries), Albania, Finland and the Syrian Orthodox Church

 

Closed down are the cinemas also in AUS and NZ, for how long / at what days ... you might best ask in either the matching threads, DeeCee or the mod who is from there.

 

Not sure about South America, but as the religion is there too rather important, in the International area are several per country threads, best ask there for yourself

 

In Asia especially South Korea has a high part of Christians, I know they have the days as holidays, but no idea how that impacts the cinemas.

 

 

I just feel compelled to make a correction: there is no Republic of Athos, it is Greek territory under a government-appointed Governor which enjoys administrative autonomy, because of its particularity as a monastic community that allows it to not comply with parts of the Greek legislation (for example, no women allowed..).

 

Kudos for your amazing post, in any case.

[terrestrial]

56 minutes ago, alisson23 said:

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1. BOM = in my POV that counts also for per country 'names'

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You are also welcome to quote small subsets (less than 20 names/titles) of filmography or title related data on non-commercial websites, on message board systems, in magazine articles etc. We do insist, however, that you make reference to the source of the data via the phrase: "Information courtesy of Box Office Mojo. Used with permission."

 

2. in my POV your style to present data is not sorted. You missed a little detail. Better said: several details. 

I didn't check Sherlock as not needed IMHO:

In opposition to SW R1 MI GP had different weeks in release in OS at that weekend (1-3 weeks), plus was expanding at that weekend in dom. As in considerable. 

= someone already pointed it out, but I am a bit wondering how it comes you didn't gave links to the weekends in question?

or give small examples of charts

1	3	Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol	Par.	$29,556,629	+131.2%	3,448	+3,023	$8,572	$61,993,090	$145	2
2	1	Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows	WB	$20,270,555	-48.9%	3,703	-	$5,474	$79,024,177	-	2
3	N	The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)	Sony	$12,768,604	-	2,914	-	$4,382	$21,145,077	$90	1
4	2	Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked	Fox	$12,585,192	-45.9%	3,683	-40	$3,417	$49,525,379	$75	2
5	N	The Adventures of Tintin	Par.	$9,720,993	-	3,087	-	$3,149	$17,729,016	-	1
6	N	We Bought a Zoo	Fox	$9,360,434	-	3,117	-	$3,003	$9,818,920	-	1
7	N	War Horse	BV	$7,515,402	-	2,376	-	$3,163	$7,515,402	$66	1

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=&yr=2011&wknd=51&p=.htm

In my POV there is a difference if it is part something of an established characters, with a lot of adult fans waiting for it or a 3 (IMHO not 4) quadrant film (not sure about the term), or..., also there are differences in some countries / regions the 26 December being a public holiday or not, and if the Monday is a holiday, enhanced Sundays (see some discussions here in this thread some pages back too. And to expect higher Mondays than usual.

Plus in the past the weeks before were often a bit barren,... depending on who bad for which audience group, it can lead to higher numbers for one film, but...

it is IMHO also about the amount of people even going to the cinemas at that time (or later on). And yes, that is a plus in that weekend in 2011, but see #1 expanding to something called 'wide' and newly released children films (plural), how many newly released films take away from the holdovers, what kind of films, how long where which genres,... in release

2011

TOTAL (82 MOVIES) :

$128,078,515

+8.3%

41,151

+2,682

$3,112

2016 (not final)

TOTAL (37 MOVIES) :

$177,875,111

-15.9%

35,862

+1,115

$4,960

 

 

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

Tbh if you want to make a good video game movie, just hire Lord and Miller.  They made a fucking LEGO movie work of all things.  They can almost surely make a video game movie work.

 

You don't even have to do that.  First and foremost one has to decide just what the hell story one is going to tell.  

 

No, wait, strike that.  The VERY FIRST THING one should do is realize that video games and films are radically different story telling mediums.  

 

Consider that even the shortest story driven video game out there will still have 20 hours of content, that is going to be a hell of a lot to squeeze in, even when one strips out the grinding/game play of video games.

 

In fact, video games might make better sense for TV given that at least there, you have room for long form content (with the various story beats in a game serving as episodes).  I also don't think it's much of a surprise that they've done 'OK' in literature, given the flexibility of that format.

 

Still, if one is going to make a video game movie, simply think this:  What is a compelling story that could be told in 90 to 140 minutes that uses that video game as a setting?

 

That's it.  That's all one has to do.

 

*looooooooooooooong pause*

 

It's also pretty damn difficult, as there are so many traps and pitfalls along the way.  

 

As a way of comparison, one of the brilliant things that Peter Jackson did was treat the various LOTR books as real life history.  Grounding it in realism (as much as it could be) drove an awful lot of story telling decisions.

 

Another comparison is the HP books.  They decided to strip away a lot of the world building and extraneous stuff that makes an entertaining read and instead focused on the core story.  It then proceeded to tell THAT core story and mostly ignore everything else.

 

All too often folks who make video game movies forget to make us care about the characters and their story, while trying to sell us on something that we remember from the game.  But, much like adapting literature, if I wanted to relive those moments, I'd just play the damn game.  Seeing Blobblatter when he gets out his Whackhammer and crushes some Splatbugs on the big screen might be nice for the core core core target audience.  But everyone else is going, "Who is Blobblatter and why do I even care?"

 

Bringing this back around to your initial comment, that's what the best directors (and everyone else involved) do:  Either create a story with characters that we care about on some level AND/OR make the setting so compelling that we're willing to go along with the ride.

 

 

 

 

 

Or crank up the destruction porn.   That helps too.

 

Still, getting a good story that can be told in short form probably helps more.

[Claire of Themyscira]

SCREAMING at Alisson23 being dragged every direction.

 

[miketheavenger]

This thread right now:

 

[terrestrial]

8 minutes ago, Xavier said:

I just feel compelled to make a correction: there is no Republic of Athos, it is Greek territory under a government-appointed Governor which enjoys administrative autonomy, because of its particularity as a monastic community that allows it to not comply with parts of the Greek legislation (for example, no women allowed..).

Kudos for your amazing post, in any case.

Thank you for the input and the compliment, I am always happy to learn something new  

I knew in rough basics (like the no women detail) and them being ~ autonomic to a degree, have seen some pics and read a bit about Athos, but that was literally decades back. I didn't know about the specifics of a government-appointed Governor. I was repeatedly there since 1978, but sadly the last time I was in Greece in general was in 1991. Love the country (and the real local cuisine).

[PPZVGOS]

28 minutes ago, YourMother said:

The thing that hurt the most Moana wasn't the ethnicity of the main characters but it was the competition both Domestic and Worldwide. Moana had to deal with Strange. Rogue One, Beasts, Sing, and to a lesser extent Trolls.

 

If anything, Frozen faced even stiffer competition. 

 

How about Hunger Games 2 (the biggest in the series) Thor: The Dark World, The Desolation of Smaug (massive at OS-BO) American Hustle, The Wolf of Wall Street, Anchorman 2, Lone Survivor, Saving Mrs. Banks, Ride Along, Lone Survivor, The Lego Movie etc etc...

[DeeCee]

R1 jumped roughly 300-400% Sunday to Monday in Australia. Look out if it keeps growing like that. Billion dollars down under here we come. 

[WrathOfHan]

I'm predicting the box office of every weekend in 2017. Come argue with me!

 

 

[Xavier]

16 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Thank you for the input and the compliment, I am always happy to learn something new  

I knew in rough basics (like the no women detail) and them being ~ autonomic to a degree, have seen some pics and read a bit about Athos, but that was literally decades back. I didn't know about the specifics of a government-appointed Governor. I was repeatedly there since 1978, but sadly the last time I was in Greece in general was in 1991. Love the country (and the real local cuisine).

 

You are welcome in Greece anytime!

Edited December 27, 2016 by Xavier

[La Binoche]

Have Passengers int'l #s been released? 

[Porthos]

8 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

R1 jumped roughly 300-400% Sunday to Monday in Australia. Look out if it keeps growing like that. Billion dollars down under here we come. 

 

I don't believe you.  Why if R1 only grosses 1 dollar on Tuesday, 2 dollars on Wednesday, and 4 dollars on Thursday, it still probably won't be all that much two months from now. 

[DeeCee]

Today is the additional Christmas Day Public Holiday in Australia so business should be pretty similar to yesterday. 

[YM!]

6 minutes ago, PPZVGOS said:

 

If anything, Frozen faced even stiffer competition. 

 

How about Hunger Games 2 (the biggest in the series) Thor: The Dark World, The Desolation of Smaug (massive at OS-BO) American Hustle, The Wolf of Wall Street, Anchorman 2, Lone Survivor, Saving Mrs. Banks, Ride Along, Lone Survivor, The Lego Movie etc etc...

Frozen also got a re-release, which seems unlikely Moana would have one (so Ride Along, Lone Survivor and Lego Movie where the competition it had during the re-release) and had minimal family competition unlike Moana during the holidays not to mention that HG2 didn't lit the world on fire OS and Anchorman 2, Mr. Banks, and Wolf did decently. Rogue One should do over $500M, Strange and Beasts did about $230M, Trolls did over $150M, and Sing is probably going over $250M.