The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[keysersoze123]

Lion King previews AMC Empire 25 is now showing 4 2D shows as sold out while 2 Dolby shows are almost sold out. I think its PS is building nicely. in SF its sold good amount of tickets though its far from selling out. But it has ginormous number of shows for its previews. if PS builds up nicely in final week I could see it hit 20m+ for previews.

[Joyous Legion]

24 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

So I was starting out my comps, and I just realized that one of the theaters I was tracking was not in PA, but all the way in Michigan. It wasn't my fault, because both theaters share the exact same name (don't ask me why), but it still sucks. And wouldn't you know it, it completely screws up all the work I've done so far. To quote the star of Show Dogs, I made a huge mistake.

 

So basically I'll have one adjusted comp that excludes the messed up theater, and then I'll add in the new theater into the mix.

CoolEric’s “Greater Philadelphia Area (+ one from Michigan) Seat Report”

Edited July 8, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[Eric is Quiet]

The Lion King Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 Days and Counting*** (Adjusted for Theater Mix-Up. Excludes PA Theater)

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	90	1,513	17,371	8.71%

Total Seats Sold Today: 119

 

Ignoring that theater confusion for a moment, this was a fantastic day for the theaters I'm tracking. It's above even Tuesday, which was a huge promo day for TLK. Obviously part of that jump was also due to the fact that the 4th of July weekend is over, but that's still really dang good. Hopefully that momentum continues, and this isn't some crazy overperformance.

Edited July 8, 2019 by CoolEric258

[Eric is Quiet]

The Lion King Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 Days and Counting*** (Adjusted for Theater Mix-Up. Includes New PA Theater)

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	102	1,818	18,457	9.85%

 

It's a good thing I added this theater into the mix. Not just because of my Michigan Mishap, but also because the new theater I added has sold a lot of tickets. 305 in fact. It at least shows there's still a lot of demand being met here, and skews things a bit more positively...at least, I think so? I dunno, the more theaters to sample, the better.

[Porthos]

So folks might be wondering:  Just how is Hobbs and Shaw doing locally?

Glad you asked!  Let me answer the question this way.

 

The 7pm showing of H&S at Century Arden has sold 36 out of 161 tickets.  Not ideal, but not terrible.

The other 44 showings in the region that have reserved seating?  77 tickets (out of 6266).

 

That's right. 1 showing out of 45 (reserved seating) showings accounts for 31.86% of sales locally.

 

Yessssh.

 

===

 

Also, today H&S sold nine whole tickets in the region.  That might seem kinda low, but it actually ties it for the second best day of pre-sales.

 

A frontloaded flick on pre-sales, this movie ain't.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Porthos

[Porthos]

The Lion King Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	191	17794	20671	2877	13.92%

 

Total Showings Added Today:        4 (2 at non-reserved seating theaters)

Total Seats Added Today:           274

Total Seats Sold Today:              185

 

Unadjusted Comps

4.6553x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 11 days before release.

3.1931x as many tickets sold as Aladdin 11 days before release.

3.7776x as many tickets sold as King of the Monsters 11 days before release.

1.6785x as many tickets sold as Toy Story 4 11 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  Pika Pika had 30 days of pre-sales, Aladdin had 25, King of the Monsters had 21, andToy Story 4 had 24 days of pre-sales while The Lion King has 25 days of pre-sales.

 

T-11:

Pika        38 seats sold [0 sellouts/75 shows |   8030/8648 seats    |   618 seats sold |  7.15% sold]

Aladdin   38 seats sold [0 sellouts/70 shows |   9096/9997 seats   |   901 seats sold |   9.01% sold]

KotM      45 seats sold [0 sellouts/90 shows | 11367/12129 seats  |   762 seats sold |   6.28% sold]

TS4        87 seats sold [0 sellouts/90 shows | 10595/12309 seats  | 1714 seats sold | 13.92% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

1.6426x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 11 days before release.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

PRE-SALES NOTE: Fallen Kingdom had 23 days of pre-sales while The Lion King has 25 days of pre-sales.

 

T-11:

JW2           76 seats sold  [0 sellouts/97 shows   |   8507/10113 seats | 1606 seats sold | 15.88% sold]

TLK (JW)  151 seats sold  [0 sellouts/191 shows | 15619/18257 seats | 2638 seats sold | 14.45% sold]

TLK (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom.

[Inceptionzq]

Inspired by @Porthos, I did a VERY VERY VERY rough estimate of how many tickets would need to be sold in my area to get 18M and 20M for previews. I used the comps of other trackers, and compared how FFH sold in my area to their areas. I adjusted for seat count and all that fun jazz. But this doesn’t have much data to go off of, and has some sketchy calculations. So, I’ll probably be very wrong, but why the heck not?

 

18M: 7400 tickets

20M: 8200 tickets

[Menor the Destroyer]

TLK Friday presales:

 

Showings: 5039 (163% of showings for previews)

Theaters: 229

Tickets Sold: 39167 (92% of tickets sold for previews)

Tickets Available: 709125 (176% of seats available for previews)

Estimated ATP: $11.51

Total Estimated Sales: $451,164 (83% of total estimated sales for previews)

Estimated nationwide sales: $4 million

Edited July 8, 2019 by Menor

[XXR & Friends]

25 minutes ago, Menor said:

TLK Friday presales:

 

Showings: 5039 (163% of showings for previews)

Theaters: 229

Tickets Sold: 39167 (92% of tickets sold for previews)

Tickets Available: 709125 (176% of seats available for previews)

Estimated ATP: $11.51

Total Estimated Sales: $451,164 (83% of total estimated sales for previews)

Estimated nationwide sales: $4 million

 

So total PS right now is probably $11-13m

[FlashMaster659]

The Lion King - AMC Disney Springs 24 (Thursday)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 118/121

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 274/281

9:15 PM - 270/281

 

RealD 3D

 

6:30 PM - 156/360

6:45 PM - 42/120

7:00 PM - 98/360

10:00 PM - 28/360

10:15 PM - 1/120

10:30 PM - 21/360

 

2D Dine-In

 

6:30 PM - 46/50

7:30 PM - 46/50

10:00 PM - 44/50

11:00 PM - 41/50

 

2D

 

6:15 PM - 127/158

7:15 PM (1) - 95/135

7:15 PM (2) - 97/137

7:45 PM (1) - 99/159

7:45 PM (2) - 88/133

8:15 PM - 368/532

9:45 PM - 82/158

10:45 PM - 67/135

10:50 PM - 21/137

11:15 PM (1) - 7/159

11:15 PM (2) - 6/133

11:30 PM - 16/532

 

Total

 

2258/5071 (44.5%)

Edited July 8, 2019 by FlashMaster659

[Menor the Destroyer]

7 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

So total PS right now is probably $11-13m

Will have Sat and Sun numbers today which should give an even better idea

[Molek]

27 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

So total PS right now is probably $11-13m

Any comps? What's a good presale amount?

[XXR & Friends]

5 minutes ago, Molek said:

Any comps? What's a good presale amount?

 

BATB was around $30m and TS4 around $18m or so. These are final numbers.

Edited July 8, 2019 by VenomXXR

[FlashMaster659]

21 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

 

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 139/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 162/203

9:00 PM - 157/203

12:00 AM - 57/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 23/78

6:30 PM - 12/63

7:00 PM - 15/78

8:45 PM - 15/60

9:15 PM - 4/78

9:45 PM - 4/63

10:15 PM - 4/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 4/55

6:45 PM - 0/44

7:30 PM - 2/167

8:00 PM - 4/114

8:30 PM - 0/114

9:00 PM - 2/79

9:30 PM - 0/55

10:00 PM - 0/44

10:30 PM - 3/167

11:15 PM - 0/114

11:45 PM - 0/114

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 35/63

8:00 PM - 37/61

8:30 PM - 40/63

10:45 PM - 20/63

11:15 PM - 26/61

11:45 PM - 6/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 20/44

6:15 PM - 13/55

6:30 PM - 49/217

6:45 PM - 0/48

7:00 PM - 22/79

7:15 PM - 14/44

7:45 PM - 17/44

8:00 PM - 18/45

8:15 PM - 23/167

8:30 PM - 9/45

8:45 PM - 2/44

9:00 PM - 9/49

9:15 PM - 0/44

9:30 PM - 2/55

9:45 PM - 3/217

10:00 PM - 0/48

10:15 PM - 2/79

10:30 PM - 0/44

11:00 PM - 0/44

11:15 PM - 0/45

11:30 PM - 3/167

11:45 PM - 0/45

 

Total

 

977(+33)/4384 (22.3%)

 

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 140/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 163/203

9:00 PM - 158/203

12:00 AM - 58/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 23/78

6:30 PM - 12/63

7:00 PM - 15/78

8:45 PM - 16/60

9:15 PM - 4/78

9:45 PM - 6/63

10:15 PM - 4/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 4/55

6:45 PM - 0/44

7:30 PM - 2/167

8:00 PM - 4/114

8:30 PM - 0/114

9:00 PM - 2/79

9:30 PM - 0/55

10:00 PM - 0/44

10:30 PM - 3/167

11:15 PM - 0/114

11:45 PM - 0/114

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 35/63

8:00 PM - 37/61

8:30 PM - 42/63

10:45 PM - 25/63

11:15 PM - 28/61

11:45 PM - 11/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 20/44

6:15 PM - 15/55

6:30 PM - 55/217

6:45 PM - 0/48

7:00 PM - 22/79

7:15 PM - 21/44

7:45 PM - 17/44

8:00 PM - 18/45

8:15 PM - 23/167

8:30 PM - 9/45

8:45 PM - 2/44

9:00 PM - 9/49

9:15 PM - 1/44

9:30 PM - 2/55

9:45 PM - 3/217

10:00 PM - 0/48

10:15 PM - 2/79

10:30 PM - 0/44

11:00 PM - 0/44

11:15 PM - 0/45

11:30 PM - 7/167

11:45 PM - 0/45

 

Total

 

1018(+41)/4384 (23.2%)

[Menor the Destroyer]

11 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

BATB was around $30m and TS4 around $18m or so. These are final numbers.

Wang numbers times 3-3.5 tends to give a good estimation of total PS. 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Menor

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 34/411(+3)

10 PM – 9/411(+2)

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 0/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 59/187(+2)

10:30 PM – 3/187

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 131/217(+2)

9 PM – 59/217(+1)

11:50 PM – 5/217

 

2D: 

6 PM – 42/158(+7)

6 PM – 4/56

6:10 PM – 0/48

6:20 PM – 4/44

6:40 PM – 0/94

6:50 PM – 11/92(+2)

7:20 PM – 11/44

7:40 PM – 2/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 5/40(+2)

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 5/48(+5)

8:30 PM – 4/94

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 3/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 2/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 0/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 61/384(+10)

10 PM – 6/384

 

Real D 3D: 

6:30 PM – 3/85

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby: 

6 PM – 77/210

9 PM – 50/210(+6)

 

2D:

6 PM – 27/159(+1)

6:10 PM – 0/52

6:15 PM – 0/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 15/85(+1)

6:50 PM – 4/39

7:10 PM – 7/45

7:15 PM – 4/85(+2)

7:20 PM – 0/45

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 8/159

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 14/85(+3)

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 2/159

 

Total from 7 theaters: 1556(+150)/18205 (8.5% (+0.8))

Good increase in ticket sales. Even without the new theater I added, there were still 123 tickets sold. It’ll be interesting to see how this week goes with sales.

 

 

 

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 35/411(+1)

10 PM – 11/411(+2)

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 0/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 64/187(+5)

10:30 PM – 3/187

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 138/217(+7)

9 PM – 65/217(+6)

11:50 PM – 5/217

 

2D:

6 PM – 42/158

6 PM – 4/56

6:10 PM – 5/48(+5)

6:20 PM – 4/44

6:40 PM – 0/94

6:50 PM – 11/92

7:20 PM – 11/44

7:40 PM – 2/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 5/40

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 5/48

8:30 PM – 4/94

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 3/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 2/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 1/158(+1)

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 67/384(+6)

10 PM – 6/384

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 5/85(+2)

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby:

6 PM – 88/210(+11)

9 PM – 52/210(+2)

 

2D:

6 PM – 35/159(+8)

6:10 PM – 0/52

6:15 PM – 0/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 21/85(+6)

6:50 PM – 4/39

7:10 PM – 7/45

7:15 PM – 4/85

7:20 PM – 0/45

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 8/159

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 14/85

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 2/159

Total from 7 theaters: 1654(+98)/18205 (9.1%)

An overall better day than yesterday for the two theaters I show. The other 5 theaters… not so hot.

[Sunny Max]

4 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

 

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

 

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

 

 

IMAX:

 

7 PM – 35/411(+1)

 

10 PM – 11/411(+2)

 

 

 

Real D 3D:

 

6:30 PM – 0/48

 

7:10 PM – 5/48

 

9:25 PM – 0/48

 

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

 

 

Prime 3D:

 

7:30 PM – 64/187(+5)

 

10:30 PM – 3/187

 

 

 

Dolby:

 

6 PM- 138/217(+7)

 

9 PM – 65/217(+6)

 

11:50 PM – 5/217

 

 

 

2D:

 

6 PM – 42/158

 

6 PM – 4/56

 

6:10 PM – 5/48(+5)

 

6:20 PM – 4/44

 

6:40 PM – 0/94

 

6:50 PM – 11/92

 

7:20 PM – 11/44

 

7:40 PM – 2/56

 

7:50 PM – 0/44

 

8 PM – 5/40

 

8:10 PM – 2/36

 

8:20 PM – 5/48

 

8:30 PM – 4/94

 

8:40 PM – 0/92

 

8:50 PM – 0/44

 

9:05 PM – 4/158

 

9:10 PM – 0/56

 

9:15 PM – 0/48

 

9:20 PM – 0/44

 

9:30 PM – 3/94

 

9:45 PM – 0/92

 

10:15 PM – 0/44

 

10:40 PM – 2/56

 

10:50 PM – 0/44

 

11 PM – 0/40

 

11:10 PM – 0/36

 

11:20 PM – 0/48

 

11:30 PM – 0/94

 

11:40 PM – 0/92

 

11:50 PM – 0/44

 

11:55 PM – 0/56

 

12:00 AM – 1/158(+1)

 

 

 

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

 

 

IMAX:

 

7 PM – 67/384(+6)

 

10 PM – 6/384

 

 

 

Real D 3D:

 

6:30 PM – 5/85(+2)

 

7:30 PM – 0/52

 

9:30 PM – 0/85

 

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

 

 

Dolby:

 

6 PM – 88/210(+11)

 

9 PM – 52/210(+2)

 

 

 

2D:

 

6 PM – 35/159(+8)

 

6:10 PM – 0/52

 

6:15 PM – 0/52

 

6:20 PM – 0/41

 

6:40 PM – 21/85(+6)

 

6:50 PM – 4/39

 

7:10 PM – 7/45

 

7:15 PM – 4/85

 

7:20 PM – 0/45

 

7:40 PM – 0/52

 

7:50 PM – 0/39

 

8 PM – 8/159

 

8:10 PM – 0/45

 

8:20 PM – 0/41

 

8:30 PM – 14/85

 

9:10 PM – 0/52

 

9:15 PM – 2/52

 

9:20 PM – 0/41

 

9:30 PM – 0/159

 

9:40 PM – 0/85

 

9:50 PM – 0/39

 

10:10 PM – 0/45

 

10:15 PM – 0/85

 

10:20 PM – 0/45

 

10:40 PM – 0/52

 

10:50 PM – 0/39

 

11 PM – 2/159

 

 

 

 

Total from 7 theaters: 1654(+98)/18205 (9.1%)

 

 

An overall better day than yesterday for the two theaters I show. The other 5 theaters… not so hot.

 

 

Average advance ...  

[ThomasNicole]

Preparing myself to see the meltdowns when TLK opens with only $ 180 - 200M and not with $ 230 - 250M

 

Anyway, promising numbers overall, if next week delivers on presales i think +20M previews is happening

Edited July 8, 2019 by ThomasNicole

[john2000]

7 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Preparing myself to see the meltdowns when TLK opens with only $ 180 - 200M and not with $ 230 - 250M

 

Anyway, promising numbers overall, if next week delivers on presales i think +20M previews is happening

i hope it hits 200+ but yeah you are right

[Menor the Destroyer]

TLK Saturday presales:

Theaters: 230

Showings: 5060

Tickets Sold: 33446 (85.4% of Friday)

Tickets Available: 709668

Estimated ATP: 10.84

Estimated total sales: 362695 (80% of Friday)

Estimated nationwide sales: 3.3 million

 

TLK Sunday presales:

Theaters: 230

Showings: 4939

Tickets Sold: 18226 (54% of Saturday)

Tickets Available: 693278

Estimated ATP: 10.17

Estimated total sales: 185365 (51% of Saturday)

Estimated nationwide sales: 1.7 million

 

Based on the 4-day data, I estimate that TLK's total domestic presales for all days are around 15 million at this point in time, with 14 million of that being for the OW.