The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[FlashMaster659]

So by being able to scrape Regal, AMC, Cinemark, and Cineplex, that's basically like 80% of the whole DOM market covered?

Edited December 17, 2019 by FlashMaster659

[Menor the Destroyer]

1 minute ago, FlashMaster659 said:

So by being able to scrape Regal, AMC, Cinemark, and Cineplex, that's basically like 80% of the whole DOM market covered?

Well I am not able to access the Fandango website now. Seems like they're pretty serious about preventing scraping. So may have to find another way to access Regal data.

[ZackM]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Various theater chains (Michigan) Premiere Night Seat Report: T-3 days and counting
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	13	1	0	-1	0
Seats Added	4,224	321	6	-33	1
Seats Sold	962	858	586	566	614
12/16/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	281	30,233	50,679	20,446	40.34%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	19	44	74	106	132

 

 

Had to run this earlier than usual tonight since I've got a very early morning tomorrow.  It looks like it may have cost me a 1,000 ticket day.  Tomorrow should get there.

[keysersoze123]

1st its great ZackM is so confident about building a scrapper. Please do it. i just looked at the site and it cannot be scrapped from backend. 1st its asking for login and plus it needs us to select seat count before looking at seat map. But it should be doable from front end. Go for it @ZackM

 

@Menor on fandango, sometimes wait. it might work at a later time. your process cannot be blocked.

[keysersoze123]

2 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

So by being able to scrape Regal, AMC, Cinemark, and Cineplex, that's basically like 80% of the whole DOM market covered?

FYI my data for MTC1 is not complete. One its only for Reserved screens, 2nd MTC1 does not return data for sellouts at times(even remove them all together). So I do miss tons of data. Especially for a big movie. That said its enough to project.

[charlie Jatinder]

20 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

FYI my data for MTC1 is not complete. One its only for Reserved screens, 2nd MTC1 does not return data for sellouts at times(even remove them all together). So I do miss tons of data. Especially for a big movie. That said its enough to project.

After Wang numbers, we are doing fine I guess as we know roughly how much of data we are missing.

[keysersoze123]

22 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

SW9(T-4)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5415 shows 388054/888056 5751533.42 +12850
MTC2 Prev - overall 3156 shows 255352/457554 3195776.00 +8397
MTC1 OD - overall 5466 shows 321554/1109378 4876904.63  +17757
MTC2 OD - overall 4679 shows 252846/759298 2770725.00  +15699
MTC1 D2 - overall 5399 shows 272889/1098201 3948817.21 +16382
MTC2 D2 - overall 4636 shows 213503/752774 2281816.00  +15488
MTC1 D3 - overall 5223 shows 166679/1061382 2410854.40 +13629
MTC2 D3 - overall 4626 shows 126279/757089 1300064.00 +12083

 

Big increase today across the board. But that is expected as we are entering release week. I am expecting big boost on tuesday as showcounts should increase big time as we have final week schedule firm up.

 

Quick check on D4/5. If I am not wrong there wont be any discount tuesday during that week.

 

MTC1 D4 - overall 4623 shows 69483/943838 1016991.46
MTC2 D4 - overall 4425 shows 62597/720339 634536.00
MTC1 D5  - overall 4389 shows 50771/886726 701934.56
MTC2 D5 - overall 3580 shows 43266/586005 417504.00

SW9(T-3)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5729 shows 406147/918802 6003181.03 +18093
MTC2 Prev - overall 3345 shows 264121/478214 3294739.00 +8769
MTC1 OD - overall 5587 shows 347498/1125030 5231961.66 +25944
MTC2 OD - overall 5045 shows 268852/807908 2929285.00 +16006
MTC1 D2 - overall 5406 shows 286003/1099143 4126364.66 +13114 (20 hours)
MTC2 D2 - overall 4650 shows 222472/754419 2373846.00 +8969 (20 hours)
MTC1 D3 - overall 5231 shows 176171/1062383 2541168.27 +9492 (19 hours)
MTC2 D3 - overall 4641 shows 133752/758720 1374614.00 +7473 (20 hours)

 

Very nice acceleration especially at MTC1. I had run D2/3 earlier this afternoon and so it was less than full day but looking at Previews/OD at MTC1 acceleration is starting. I am hoping for at least 7K shows at MTC1 for previews and 5K at MTC2. for OD the show count should cross 8K. let us wait for tomorrow for big burst and then again on final day.

 

I also ran D6/7 earlier this morning. Good numbers especially on christmas day.

 

MTC1 D6 - overall 4642 shows 77586/942586 1098230.56
MTC2 D6 - overall 3165 shows 68585/548663 699170.00
MTC1 D7 - overall 4554 shows 34411/924184 490469.86
MTC2 D7 - overall 3135 shows 29857/547234 297228.00

 

 

[Menor the Destroyer]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

1st its great ZackM is so confident about building a scrapper. Please do it. i just looked at the site and it cannot be scrapped from backend. 1st its asking for login and plus it needs us to select seat count before looking at seat map. But it should be doable from front end. Go for it @ZackM

 

@Menor on fandango, sometimes wait. it might work at a later time. your process cannot be blocked.

No my IP is blocked. Like I can't access the site even by regular browsing. I could get around it with a proxy but I'd rather not piss them off more as there have been cases of people being sued for too much unwanted scraping.

 

I will try to get Regal data directly from Regal's website instead, I doubt they'll be as strict as Fandango about the scraping (the only reason I think Fandango is so hard on it is that they sell access to their API, so people scraping from their site interferes with their business model). So may take another couple of days.

[keysersoze123]

4 minutes ago, Menor said:

No my IP is blocked. Like I can't access the site even by regular browsing. I could get around it with a proxy but I'd rather not piss them off more as there have been cases of people being sued for too much unwanted scraping.

 

I will try to get Regal data directly from Regal's website instead, I doubt they'll be as strict as Fandango about the scraping (the only reason I think Fandango is so hard on it is that they sell access to their API, so people scraping from their site interferes with their business model). So may take another couple of days.

That is ridiculous. But again they were the one who got rid of pulse. I will never use their site to book tickets for sure. They are definitely rotten for sure 😞

[Porthos]

22 minutes ago, Menor said:

No my IP is blocked. Like I can't access the site even by regular browsing. I could get around it with a proxy but I'd rather not piss them off more as there have been cases of people being sued for too much unwanted scraping.

 

 

Breaking 'sites with a hot link...

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

I needed tracking coz I had none.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

They took my Pulse and it feels so bad

I guess my scrape is done.

 

She's the best code I ever made

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and BAM BAM BAM

 

GUITAR SOLO!!!!!

ROCKING DRUMS!!!!

 

Robbin' corps with a scraper

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

I lost my access and a I lost my vip.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

They took my Pulse and it feels so bad

I guess my scrape is done.

 

She's the best code I ever made

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and BAM BAM BAM

 

GUITAR SOLO!!!!!

ROCKING DRUMS!!!!

 

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

I fought Fandango and Fandango won.

 

I fought Fandango and Fandango won. 

I fought Fandango and BAM BAM BAM

Edited December 17, 2019 by Porthos
slight edit to make it work better

[Cooper Legion]

16 minutes ago, Menor said:

the only reason I think Fandango is so hard on it is that they sell access to their API, so people scraping from their site interferes with their business mode

What’s the rate? We might be able to get a decently broad base for crowdfunding?

[Menor the Destroyer]

9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

That is ridiculous. But again they were the one who got rid of pulse. I will never use their site to book tickets for sure. They are definitely rotten for sure 😞

On one hand, I get they have a business model. But this is such a minor thing and the data is all publicly available anyway so ugh. But I just gotta let it go as they have the power in this situation. I will check Regal TOS before scraping, hopefully they don't have an explicit ban.

 

@Arendelle Legion the info should be here: https://developer.fandango.com/ or search "Fandango API", I wasn't able to find the exact numbers but it should be somewhere on there.

Edited December 17, 2019 by Menor

[charlie Jatinder]

T-3 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

 

MTC 1: $26.7mn Approx

 

At same time

Endgame: $43mn Approx (62%) (Final $53mn Approx)

 

MTC 2: $15mn

 

At same time

Endgame: $24.5mn Approx (61%) (Final $30mn Approx)

The Lion King: $6mn (40%) (Final $12mn)

 

Nationwide estimates

Previews: $24mn

Friday: $22mn

Saturday: $18mn

Sunday: $11mn

Rest: $16mn 

 

FSS: $76mn Approx

Total: $91mn Approx

 

At same time

Endgame: $148mn (61.5%) (Final $186mn Approx)

The Lion King: $36mn (40%) (Final $74mn Approx) 

 

Estimated FSS day wise comparison of Endgame and TRS T-3 Days

Spoiler

	SW: TRS	A: EG	%
Previews	$24.25	$31.00	78.23%
Friday	$22.25	$36.50	60.96%
Saturday	$18.24	$36.00	50.67%
Sunday	$10.91	$25.00	43.63%
Rest	$15.62	$20.00	78.12%

 

Note: All these numbers include a good amount of estimation. The system is working well but there's always margin of error, take +/-5%.

There was an error in calculation of overall sales after FSS which I corrected so previous data will need some alterations. The data is, however updated in the sheet.

http://bit.ly/JatUSPS

Edited December 17, 2019 by Jedi Jat

[Cooper Legion]

28 minutes ago, Menor said:

On one hand, I get they have a business model. But this is such a minor thing and the data is all publicly available anyway so ugh. But I just gotta let it go as they have the power in this situation. I will check Regal TOS before scraping, hopefully they don't have an explicit ban.

 

@Arendelle Legion the info should be here: https://developer.fandango.com/ or search "Fandango API", I wasn't able to find the exact numbers but it should be somewhere on there.

To access the Fandango API, it looks like you need to buy a core AVI subscription, and then ask Fandango nicely. The cheapest core subscription is $500 a month, and they'd probably tell us "no" when we asked nicely is my guess. So this seems... not promising. But if anyone reading this happens to have $500 to burn on seeing if Fandango will work with us, contact a developer-y person about that, I guess.

[keysersoze123]

Does the fandango api provide info on tickets sold. It does not seem to be so. They only provide apis for showtimes, movies and theater list according to the web page.

 

I doubt they will want to share details on how many tickets are sold through their platform. That is their financial data.

[Eric Prime]

Cats Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	20	112	2,723	4.11%

 

Comp

1.191x of Dora (1.49M)

2.435x of Abominable (1.58M)

1.179x of Addams Family (1.47M)

0.511x of Maleficent (1.18M)

1.418x of Charlie’s Angels (1.28M)

0.065x of Frozen II (550K)

0.481x of Jumanji (2.26M)

 

Like I said a couple days back, this is pretty decent. It could be inflated by fans of the musical, but this does seem like an okay start that could see good gains if the next couple days sell well

[Eric Prime]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	186	13,050	33,730	38.69%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 15

Total Seats Added Today: 1,885

Total Seats Sold Today: 552

 

Comp

8.425x of It: Chapter Two 3 days before release (88.46M)

6.486x of Joker 3 days before release (86.26M)

7.543x of Frozen II 3 days before release (64.12M)

 

Adjusted Comp

2.241x of Lion King 3 days before release (51.53M)

 

Decided since it's the week of release, I'm going to get rid of the final count comps until Thursday. There's definitely going to be some declines, but we're getting close enough to release that it's not really all that necessary.

 

Anyways, I'll admit that I wasn't super impressed with today's gains, I feel like it could have done a bit better. But tomorrow should see more showtimes, so hopefully there's even greater acceleration in the days to come.

[keysersoze123]

its just monday evening and already if I refresh show count I am see 100's of shows being added. it wont be over till afternoon tomorrow and then PS should start to ramp up. at mega cities, any new shows added during not so crazy time is selling out quickly and so I am expecting HUGE ramp up. PS should double today.

 

I just refreshed previews at MTC1 and I see 2778 new shows added for previews !!! I am hoping now for 10K shows at MTC1( Greed is good).

Edited December 17, 2019 by keysersoze123

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-3 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	7	228	8908	25702	16794	65.34%

SELLOUT NOTE:  If a showing only has wheelchair and/or wheelchair companion seats left, it is counted as a sellout

 

Total Showings Added Today	15
Total Seats Added Today	1004
Total Seats Sold Today	610

 

T-3 Adjusted Comp #1 (VERY LOL FOR CM - DON'T USE THERE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	262.53		551	6115		1/155	10034/16149	37.87%		54.34m
EG	76.37		651	21022		31/283	5903/26925	78.08%		45.82m
TROS (adj)	n/a		593	16054		7/228	8400/24454	65.65%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame. 

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-3 Adjusted Comp #2

	%		Sold T-3	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Solo	328.30		196	4265		1/103	6745/11010	38.74%		46.29m
TROS (adj)	n/a		479	14002		7/228	6307/20309	68.94%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

Spoiler

of:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
DP2	172.16		8133		14002		32.02m
Solo	241.87		5789		14002		34.10m
JW:FK	224.82		6228		14002		34.40m
AM&tW	304.06		4605		14002		34.97m
Venom	332.21		4493		14926		33.22m
CM	152.13		10553		16054		31.49m
EG	60.23		26655		16054		36.14m
TLK	146.25		10977		16054		33.64m
It 2	296.77		5659		16794		31.16m
AVG							33.46m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

 

===

 

Not much to say.  Very day in Sacto.  Would have been even better if not for the fact that most of the showings added were after 9:30pm. 

 

One new 6pm-ish showing at SMG Rocklin though sold 60 tickets today, though, which helped a great deal.  And a couple of the other few pre-8pm'ers also did really well.

 

So still chugging along here. 👍

[keysersoze123]

^^^

 

MTC2 so far has not refreshed in a big way. Do you know when they finalize shows for the thursday?