The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Joyous Legion]

19 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

17:00 Pacific 4/28/19 (End of opening Sun)  

1	89.9%	Avengers: Endgame
2	1.9%	Captain Marvel
3	1.9%	The Curse of La Llorona
4	1.4%	Shazam!
5	1.3%	Breakthrough  

 

Llorona seems like it’s returning to being above CM for the dailies? And Endgame now with a downright embarrassing sub 90 😛    

 

Should be a quiet week, all upcoming openers are so small they might not  even show up til Thurs.

17:00 Pacific 4/29/19 (End of Mon)  

1	93.3%	Avengers: Endgame
2	1.3%	Captain Marvel
3	1%	The Curse of La Llorona
4	0.8%	Breakthrough
5	0.8%	Kingdom Men Rising

Looks like CM’s lead over other holdovers will grow. Endgame is significantly up*, presumably thanks to spillover. I assume this happened for other mega-openers on Monday. Also, goodbye Shazam, hello... “Kingdom Men Rising?” Never heard of that before.

 

* 90 vs 93.3 might seem small, but it’s the difference between being 9x the other movies and 14x

Edited April 30, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[JB33]

13 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

17:00 Pacific 4/29/19 (End of Mon)  

1	93.3%	Avengers: Endgame
2	1.3%	Captain Marvel
3	1%	The Curse of La Llorona
4	0.8%	Breakthrough
5	0.8%	Kingdom Men Rising

Looks like CM’s lead over other holdovers will grow. Endgame is significantly up*, presumably thanks to spillover. I assume this happened for other mega-openers on Monday. Also, goodbye Shazam, hello... “Kingdom Men Rising?” Never heard of that before.

 

* 90 vs 93.3 might seem small, but it’s the difference between being 9x the other movies and 14x

What does this all mean for your Monday predict then?

[Porthos]

17 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

hello... “Kingdom Men Rising?” Never heard of that before.

Two day only documentary/faith based film:  https://www.fathomevents.com/events/kingdom-men-rising

 

Edited April 30, 2019 by Porthos
added more context

[Joyous Legion]

45 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

90 vs 93.3 might seem small, but it’s the difference between being 9x the other movies and 14x

This was a good insight.   

45 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

I assume this happened for other mega-openers on Monday

Not so sure about this part anymore...

[Ledmonkey96]

Tuesday and Wednesday presales for Endgame at my theater

Time	Seats Sold	Total seats	Reserved seating/broken	Theater	%
Tuesday
12:00	48	86	6	11	55.81%
12:30	40	130	9	13	30.77%
12:45	20	61	3	3	32.79%
1:00	20	86	5	12	23.26%
1:30	9	61	3	2	14.75%
2:00	25	130	7	1	19.23%
2:30	18	60	3	4	30.00%
2:45	20	41	3	10	48.78%
4:00	36	86	6	11	41.86%
4:15	58	130	9	13	44.62%
4:45	50	61	3	3	81.97%
5:00	58	86	5	12	67.44%
5:30	37	61	3	2	60.66%
6:00	100	130	7	1	76.92%
6:30	53	60	3	4	88.33%
8:00	67	86	6	11	77.91%
8:15	19	130	9	13	14.62%
9:00	33	86	5	12	38.37%
9:25	12	41	3	10	29.27%
9:30	5	61	3	2	8.20%
10:00	10	130	7	1	7.69%
	738	1803	108
	630	1695			37.17%
Time	Seats Sold	Total seats	Reserved seating/broken	Theater	%
Time	Seats Sold	Total seats	Reserved seating/broken	Theater	%
Wednesday
12:00	60	86	6	11	69.77%
12:30	87	130	9	13	66.92%
12:45	29	61	3	3	47.54%
1:00	28	86	5	12	32.56%
1:30	6	61	3	2	9.84%
2:00	14	130	7	1	10.77%
2:30	35	60	3	4	58.33%
2:45	22	41	3	10	53.66%
4:00	33	86	6	11	38.37%
4:15	23	130	9	13	17.69%
4:45	20	61	3	3	32.79%
5:00	25	86	5	12	29.07%
5:30	26	61	3	2	42.62%
6:00	57	130	7	1	43.85%
6:30	53	60	3	4	88.33%
8:00	30	86	6	11	34.88%
8:15	16	130	9	13	12.31%
9:00	10	86	5	12	11.63%
9:25	9	41	3	10	21.95%
9:30	3	61	3	2	4.92%
10:00	7	130	7	1	5.38%
	593	1803	108
	485	1695			28.61%

 

[Webslinger]

My local theaters sold out every single Avengers showing today aside from the two 3D times (only nine total showings per day between those theaters though, so it's not *as* jaw-dropping as it might sound), and the pub cinema that runs two shows per day is sold out all the way through the early run on Wednesday. I've never seen that happen on a non-holiday weekday.

[Biggestgeekever]

1 hour ago, Biggestgeekever said:

MT's final update of the night put Endgame at 93.3%, up from the 89.9% it started with today. Infinity War had a similar increase (85.4% to 89.4%) on its first Monday, so a similar 64-65% drop from Sunday for Endgame is probably the ticket.

Aging as gracefully as moldy cheese in the sun, I see.

[Sue Denim]

Okay, the crazy good Monday number for A:EG got me motivated to look at Tuesday sales at my local theater and here's what we got for Tuesday for A:EG.....as of Monday at 10:00pm est.  

 

Tuesday A:EG
2D	10:00am	63	209		30.14%
	10:20am	23	85		27.06%
	10:30am	4	41		9.76%
	10:40am	19	97		19.59%
	11:00am	21	209		10.05%
	11:30am	32	155		20.65%
	12:05pm	22	154		14.29%
	12:20pm	29	152		19.08%
	12:45pm	16	98		16.33%
	1:20pm	41	152		26.97%
	1:50pm	8	209		3.83%
	2:10pm	2	85		2.35%
	2:30pm	20	97		20.62%
	2:50pm	24	209		11.48%
	3:20pm	71	155		45.81%
	3:55pm	22	154		14.29%
	4:10pm	53	152		34.87%
	4:30pm	52	98		53.06%
	5:10pm	95	152		62.50%
	5:40pm	131	209		62.68%
	6:05pm	58	85		68.24%
	6:20pm	57	97		58.76%
	6:40pm	97	209		46.41%
	7:10pm	104	155		67.10%
	7:45pm	47	154		30.52%
	8:00pm	51	152		33.55%
	8:20pm	21	98		21.43%
	9:00pm	32	152		21.05%
	9:30pm	10	209		4.78%
	9:55pm	2	85		2.35%
3D	11:40am	0	60		0.00%
	1:00pm	0	85		0.00%
	3:40pm	8	60		13.33%
	4:50pm	6	100		6.00%
	7:30pm	9	60		15.00%
	8:40pm	0	100		0.00%
	TOTAL:	1250	4733		26.41%

Edited April 30, 2019 by Sue Denim

[Joyous Legion]

1 hour ago, Biggestgeekever said:

MT's final update of the night put Endgame at 93.3%, up from the 89.9% it started with today. Infinity War had a similar increase (85.4% to 89.4%) on its first Monday, so a similar 64-65% drop from Sunday for Endgame is probably the ticket.

 

11 minutes ago, Biggestgeekever said:

Aging as gracefully as moldy cheese in the sun, I see.

90->93.3 is 9x all other sales->14x   

 

85.4->89.4 is just 5.8x to 8.4x      

[Deep Wang]

Just got a call from my old boss, lol.  He was driving home from work and he couldn’t believe how busy they were today.  

 

They have been told to go ahead and post their third weeks times for Endgame, which is unheard of.  

[XXR & Friends]

2 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

Just got a call from my old boss, lol.  He was driving home from work and he couldn’t believe how busy they were today.  

 

They have been told to go ahead and post their third weeks times for Endgame, which is unheard of.  

 

Gearing up for a big...record breaking....weekend.

[Deep Wang]

5 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

Gearing up for a big...record breaking....weekend.

This is GP30 I’m talking about too 😉

[Joyous Legion]

20 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

Just got a call from my old boss, lol.  He was driving home from work and he couldn’t believe how busy they were today.  

 

They have been told to go ahead and post their third weeks times for Endgame, which is unheard of.  

Makes sense. Today would rank as one of the busiest Saturdays of the past year.

[BudStarr]

Some really high quality analysis and interesting discussion in the last few pages. Thanks to all who have contributed with numbers from their own local cinemas etc.

 

When I had a few spare moments today, I watched the Pulse feed and paid attention to the times that the tickets were actually bought according to the number in the top left corner. These were my findings...

 

2pm hour: 607 transactions in 2 minutes (18,210 per hour)

6pm hour: 647 transactions in 2 minutes (19,410 per hour)

10pm hour: 462 transactions in 2 minutes (13,860 per hour)

11pm hour: 273 transactions in 2 minutes (8,190 per hour)

 

So, at 4,000 per hour, we really are just getting a small slice of the full picture right now. At 2pm and 6pm, we must have been hitting that 1000 cap in around 3 minutes which means 12 minutes are unaccounted for out of every 15.

 

Unfortunately I don’t have anything to compare these to. I don’t know what hourly sales levels are like in an average week (or last week for that matter). I think we can make a reasonable assumption that these levels are not the norm. I suspect we probably hit the cap regularly but not to the extent that it’s happening currently, and not as quickly. So no comparisons I’m afraid but I thought I’d post my findings anyway. In normal circumstances, the regular akvalley data is probably ‘good enough’ in its own right. But this could be the way to create like-for-like comparisons in the future for when there is a massive movie dominating the marketplace. 

[Minnale101]

What was beauty and the beast first day Pre sales if anybody has those numbers ?

[Porthos]

Detective Pikachu Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	64*	6693	7352	8.96%

*NOTE: Cinema West, which for some reason had many more showings scheduled than anyone else in the region removed many of those extras today. They now, like everyone else in the region, have a partial slate up.

 

Total Showings Removed Today:         10

Total Seats Removed Today:            1151

Total Seats Sold Today:                       41

 

I don't have any good comps like Incredibles 2, so these will have to do.  Use with caution:

 

.3385x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 10 days before release.           [JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales while Pika Pika has 29]

.3165x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald 10 days before release. [FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Pika Pika has 29]

NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

JW2 (T-10)                  60  tickets sold that day [0 sellouts/97 showings     |   8447/10113 seats left  | 16.47% sold]

Pika (JW adj)* (T-10)     41  tickets sold today     [0 sellouts/65 showings     |    5741/6305 seats left   |  8.95% sold]

FB2 (T-10)                 105  tickets sold that day [0 sellouts/94 showings     |  11500/13377 seats left | 14.03% sold] 

Pika (FBadj)** (T-10)     41 tickets sold today      [0 sellouts/65 showings     |    6224/6818 seats left  |   8.71% sold]    

*  Pika (JW adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

**Pika (FB adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

Edited May 1, 2019 by Porthos
Think I missed one of the showtimes that was removed. Now edited in - Also didn't put in the correct Topline numbers derp

[Porthos]

Aladdin Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-24 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	66	8852	9083	2.54%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                    231

 

The best comp I have so far is Detective Pikachu (which is still in pre-sales).  I also have less ideal comps with JW2 and FB2.  Use the later comps with caution.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.4620x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu after one day of pre-sales. [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales compared to Aladdin's 24]

 

Pika (day 1)           158  tickets sold that day   [0 sellouts/635 showings   |  6864/7022 seats left   |  2.25% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.3647x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom after one day of pre-sales            [JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales while Aladdin has 24]

.3369x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald after one day of pre-sales  [FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Aladdin has 24]

NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

JW2 (day 1)                  595 tickets sold that day  [0 sellouts/92 showings     |    8760/9355 seats left   |    6.36% sold]

Aladdin (JW adj)* (day 1)   217  tickets sold today     [0 sellouts/66 showings     |    6890/7107 seats left   |   3.05% sold]

FB2 (day 1)                   656  tickets sold that day [0 sellouts/94 showings     |  12721/13377 seats left |   4.90% sold] 

Aladdin (FBadj)** (day 1)   221 tickets sold today      [0 sellouts/66 showings     |    7956/8177 seats left   |   2.70% sold]    

*  Aladdin (JW adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom

**Aladdin (FB adj) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

[Porthos]

ONE TIME ONLY SAT (5/4) CENTURY ARDEN AVENGERS: ENDGAME REPORT

 

They only have a partial slate up of 8 showings at the moment.  It'll be at least 30 within a day or two.  Probably much higher than that.

 

Time        Seats Left    Total Seats        Prct Sold 
3:10p (3D)	162		260		37.69%
11:20a (2D)	70		260		73.08%
7:00p (2D)	72		260		72.31%
10:05p (2D)	184		260		29.23%
8:05a (2D)	63		161		60.87%
11:55a (2D)	45		161		72.05%
3:45p (2D)	35		161		78.26%
7:35p (2D)	33		161		79.50%
11:25 (2D)	131		161		18.63%
		795		1845		56.91%

1050 Tickets sold
795/1845 left (56.91% sold)

====

 

If you all are very very VEERRRRRRRRY lucky, I might do another Sat Cen Arden report on Wed or Thr when the final slate is up.

[Cap]

I have the spreadsheet, so I figured I will keep up with Lincoln Center and my small chain going forward.  Here's

 

NYC - AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 - Discount Tuesday 4/30/2019 for AEG

 

Total

3746

8341

44.91%

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Discount Tuesday
	Sold	Total
IMAX
6:30 AM	103	480
10:30 AM	269	480
2:30 PM	309	480
6:30 PM	439	480
10:30 PM	366	480
2:30 AM	35	480
Dolby
11:00 AM	172	297
3:00 PM	237	297
7:00 PM	277	297
11:00 PM	163	297
Real D3D
11:30 AM	17	348
1:15 PM	2	173
3:30 PM	37	348
7:30 PM	266	348
9:00 PM	44	218
11:30 PM	2	348
Standard
10:00 AM	0	156
12:00 PM	91	362
2:00 PM	12	199
4:00 PM	287	362
4:45 PM	59	218
8:00 PM	333	362
9:45 PM	137	177
10:15 PM	72	136
10:45 PM	15	156
12:00 AM	2	362
Total	3746	8341

 

 

I'll round up the local chain in the morning, and then on Wednesday get some Pika Pika data.

Edited April 30, 2019 by captainwondyful

[Mulder]

In the end Aladdin sold 26 tickets today at my theater. About as much as Detective Pikachu did on it's first day.