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[Cmasterclay]

I have returned from Europe! The adventure of a lifetime, really. London is pretty dope, Florence is gorgeous, Freiburg is peaceful, and Paris is wonderful (Rome was...ehhhhh). My first time out of the country, and it could not have gone any better. Glad you guys didn't burn down the boards in my absence. Not that you noticed I was gone (I was even posting!!). Anyway, how in the fuck has Tom Cruise not scaled the Eiffel Tower yet lol

[AJG]

So Demi Lovato had a heroin overdose and my first thought was “celebrities are doing heroin in 2018?!”. This was like finding out Eddie from That’s So Raven was a meth head.

[WrathOfHan]

2 minutes ago, AJG said:

So Demi Lovato had a heroin overdose and my first thought was “celebrities are doing heroin in 2018?!”. This was like finding out Eddie from That’s So Raven was a meth head.

Oh shit, I hope she’s ok.

[Fullbuster]

Celebrities never learn, they see each other dying from overdose (alcohol, drugs..) but they still use them..

 

I hope Demi will recover from it, I guess the pressure was too high and she felt the need to use that.

[robertman2]

I should see a movie soon. Haven't gone since Ant-Man and the Mister Rogers movie. Probably gonna see Mission Impossible 

[Barnack]

6 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

Celebrities never learn, they see each other dying from overdose (alcohol, drugs..) but they still use them..

 

I hope Demi will recover from it, I guess the pressure was too high and she felt the need to use that.

Not sure what being a celebrities has much to do with this, everyone see celebrities dying from abuse all the time and many still use them, the dangerous aspect of it is probably well know by all users (not having a standard 9-5 lifestyle that really do not support substance abuse with all it involve is probably an aspect, but that would also be truth for certain construction job).

 

There is over 65,000 death by drug overdose annually in the USA now, I do not know the survival rate from drug overdose and cannot seem to find non-lethal one stat, but it must be quite common and not a celebrity phenomenon.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Barnack

[CoolioD1]

particularly in the US it's bad because sometimes folks get prescribed opiates by doctors and then they become addicted and then they get dodgy heroin because it's a cheaper version of a similar high.

[Fullbuster]

14 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Not sure what being a celebrities has much to do with this, everyone see celebrities dying from abuse all the time and many still use them, the dangerous aspect of it is probably well know by all users (not having a standard 9-5 lifestyle that really do not support substance abuse with all it involve is probably an aspect, but that would also be truth for certain construction job).

 

There is over 65,000 death by drug overdose annually in the USA now, I do not know the survival rate from drug overdose and cannot seem to find non-lethal one stat, but it must be quite common and not a celebrity phenomenon.

 

Yeah, maybe I jumped the gun there, it's just that that I saw so many stories of celebrities dying or almost dying from these things, it gives the feeling it's more common among celebrities than the average populations but it's true that it's just a feeling I have no stats for that.

 

Still 65,000 Americans dying from that every year, that's a huge number...

[Napoleon]

This Demi Lovato news is shocking. Her career has been doing very well. Poor girl.

[filmlover]

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UPDATE: Demi Lovato is now “okay and stable” after being rushed to a Los Angeles hospital over an apparent heroin overdose, a source tells PEOPLE.

I feel bad for her because she's been through a lot. Been battling addiction and bulimia for years.

[DAR]

Coming back from work after two weeks, I shockingly remembered all my passwords.

[WrathOfHan]

17 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

particularly in the US it's bad because sometimes folks get prescribed opiates by doctors and then they become addicted and then they get dodgy heroin because it's a cheaper version of a similar high.

Kanye was right on that, at least.

[CoolioD1]

@WrathOfHan

more good news for you. literally how many projects has he announced just this month?

 

 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

Drug addiction (particularly opiates) is absolutely horrific in this country. I've personally seen it destroy many individuals and families especially when I was up in Upstate NY. The problem is we treat it as a criminal problem and not as a public health problem.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Jayhawk

[Barnack]

17 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Yeah, maybe I jumped the gun there, it's just that that I saw so many stories of celebrities dying or almost dying from these things, it gives the feeling it's more common among celebrities than the average populations but it's true that it's just a feeling I have no stats for that.

 

Still 65,000 Americans dying from that every year, that's a huge number...

Being rich and with not a regular hours type of jobs and among people that are ok with it and partying in general, I am sure that celebrities use it more than the general population. Same for some type of pro-athlete, but that would probably be also true for some boiler room wall street type job without the people being famous (that part would not surprise me is totally irrelevant, rich/type of workplace being the main factor).

 

When they started testing athlete in the NHL for example, it is apparently crazy how common cocaine usage is ( enough that it is not regulated and not considering has doping and a secret help program is offered to them), bunch of rich young guys on the road, with the Canada big party culture that small cities have, that will do that.

 

But in line of work in general in which drugs is not seen has too much of a big deal (some construction type of jobs has a very high % of use):

 

Among those who reported using opioids in the past year, prescription drugs were the most common type used, Enomoto said. An estimated 3.8 million people in the U.S. currently misuse prescription pain relievers, according to the report.

An estimated 830,000 people in the U.S. used heroin in 2015,

In 2014, there were an estimated 1.5 million current (past-month) cocaine users aged 12 or older (0.6 percent of the population).

 

I would imagine drug abuse (outside pot, alcohol) is at least 1% of the adult population, there is over 170,000 member in SAG not sure how many are famous all around, but a 1/50 of them using hard drugs would not be that specially high.

[Barnack]

8 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:

Drug addiction (particularly opiates) is absolutely horrific in this country. I've personally seen it destroy many individuals and families especially when I was up in Upstate NY. The problem is we treat it as a criminal problem and not as a public health problem.

Portugal is a type case experiment going on about this (no drugs are criminal there anymore, even heroin).

 

Seem to be a success has of now, usage among adult went up, drugs problems went down and usage among teens went down (maybe having the illegal/cool aspect completely removed made them a bit less popular)

[CoolioD1]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

Portugal is a type case experiment going on about this (no drugs are criminal there anymore, even heroin).

damn no wonder cjohn got all crazy before he left.

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

damn no wonder cjohn got all crazy before he left.

Sony and Paramount having really good years so far led him down a very dark path.

[Fullbuster]

4 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

damn no wonder cjohn got all crazy before he left.

 

Cjohn left?

[filmlover]

Just now, Fullbuster said:

 

Cjohn left?

In a blaze.