5-Day Weekend Thread | Saturday #s (Asgard p.109) - Coco 17.7, Justice League 15.7, Wonder 8.3, Thor: Ragnarok 6.4, Daddy's Home 2 5.3

[Cmasterclay]

3 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Yeah. I would have picked Jason Bateman in The Gift and Jason Segel in The End of the Tour for best actor before anyone else to start with. Liev Schreiber in Spotlight was my favorite supporting actor, it's a better less-is-more performance than even the one Rylance gave. 

Fucking littttt Bateman getting some notice. I also agree with Liev in spotlight,  just rewatched  and he's excellent. Would have gone Jordan/Hanks/Keaton  (he's the fucking lead in Spotlight guys)/Bateman/Jackson in Lead and Del Toro/Isaac/Mitchell/Dano/Liev in Supporting.

Edited November 25, 2017 by Cmasterclay

[Chewy]

Star Wars around the corner so "men shouldnt wear pink shirts" guy back? Bless up

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, Cmasterclay said:

Fucking littttt Bateman getting some notice. I also agree with Liev in spotlight,  just reached and he's excellent. Would have gone Jordan/Hanks/Keaton  (he's the fucking lead in Spotlight guys)/Bateman/Jackson in Lead and Del Toro/Isaac/Mitchell/Dano/Liev in Supporting.

Am I dumb because I'm drawing a blank on what who and what were referring to when we say Jordan

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, Noctis said:

What about Stallone?

The problem with leaning on the "it's due" narrative is that

 

1) its usually a very good or great actor that's due

2) they're usually personally well liked by their contemporaries 

 

Neither applied

[Cmasterclay]

Just now, Ethan Hunt said:

Am I dumb because I'm drawing a blank on what who and what were referring to when we say Jordan

Creed 

[Ethan Hunt]

Oh Michael B (?)

 

Yeah. I agree with that

Edited November 25, 2017 by Ethan Hunt

[titanic2187]

5 minutes ago, Noctis said:

You'd be surprised at the amount of people who find LoTR boring.

I am not surprised, many friends of mine think the same, perhaps being "boring" is a primary criteria to be an oscar-worthy movies.

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Am I dumb because I'm drawing a blank on what who and what were referring to when we say Jordan

[Chewy]

Stallone gave a better performance in Guardians 2 anyway

[The Panda]

Ranking the BP noms of the decade (only 20% of them aren't great).  The only year with a bad batch of nominees is 2011 imo, and that's because 2011 didn't have that many good movies.

 

1. Gravity
2. Life of Pi
3. Boyhood
4. The Social Network
5. Her
6. La La Land
7. Django Unchained
8. Mad Max: Fury Road
9. Whiplash
10. Beasts of the Southern Wild
11. True Grit
12. Moonlight
13. The Revenant
14. The Big Short
15. The Wolf of Wall Street
16. Arrival
17. The Grand Budapest Hotel
18. Hell or High Water
19. 12 Years a Slave
20. Bridge of Spies
21. Manchester by the Sea
22. Silver Linings Playbook
23. Spotlight
24. Zero Dark Thirty
25. Winter's Bone
26. Lincoln
27. Room
28. Black Swan
29. The Tree of Life
30. Birdman
31. Amour
32. Toy Story 3
33. Moneyball
34. Nebraska
35. Selma
36. The Fighter
37. Hacksaw Ridge
38. Fences
39. Captain Phillips
40. Hidden Figures
41. The Kids Are All Right
42. Philomena
43. The Help
44. The Descendants
45. 127 Hours
46. Inception
47. The Artist
48. Argo
49. Dallas Buyers Club
50. The King's Speech
51. The Theory of Everything
52. The Imitation Game
53. Midnight in Paris
54. Brooklyn
55. Lion
56. Hugo
57. War Horse
58. The Martian
59. Les Miserables
60. American Hustle
61. American Sniper
62. Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close

Bolding the great ones

Italics  for the very good ones

Nothing for the Decent to Eh ones

Strike for the bad ones

Edited November 25, 2017 by The Panda

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Chewy said:

Stallone gave a better performance in Guardians 2 anyway

   He was one step above Hasslehoff 

[That One Girl]

Just now, Chewy said:

Stallone gave a better performance in Guardians 2 anyway

 

Good opinion

[DAR]

12 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Tom Hardy shoulda won. best part of the movie. 

He was better at out grunting Leo

[Chewy]

a 62 film list on page 96 of the 5 day weekend thread, now we're getting somewhere

[filmlover]

Just now, DAR said:

He was better at out grunting Leo

[That One Girl]

Sometimes I wear pink khakis.  wonder what Jonathan's thoughts are on that.

[That One Girl]

Just now, Chewy said:

a 62 film list on page 96 of the 5 day weekend thread, now we're getting somewhere

 

I could post my 2017 rankings and we'd get a 136 film list  

[filmlover]

Just now, Chewy said:

a 62 film list on page 96 of the 5 day weekend thread, now we're getting somewhere

At least it isn't goddamn stupid Justice League anymore.

[RichWS]

29 minutes ago, Noctis said:

Thought you were in NY?

 

Moved to Rhode Island last year to escape the city before it finally devoured my soul. Home for the holiday in Jersey. 

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, JonathanLB said:

What happened between great movies being Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Gladiator, Braveheart, RotK, etc. and suddenly Boyhood, Danish Girl, Moonlight, Manchester and other things nobody watches or cares about? It’s like suddenly what everyone loves is shit all over and whatever the fewest number of people could even tolerate is put on a pedestal so those pretentious clowns can pretend to have some intellectual superiority over “the masses, who need their bang bang pew pew pew while we lucky few smarties can enjoy our movies about transsexuals, gay love, boredom, and other adult issues that only we understand.” Nah, everyone else gets it too...they just don’t care.

They cannot not watch it and gets it (or not get it, they have not watched it).

 

I think that is one element that changed, there is less and less connection between a movie quality and a movie being watched or not (see Suicide Squad vs Whiplash box office) the more the industry become frontloaded and 90% of the box office made in 3 weeks with the first wide weekend making or killing movies we cannot even see an correlation between opening weekend box office and Rotten tomatoes scores, sometime even a small negative one.

 

And if in a year there is 50 movie that are well watched vs 280 that are not well watched eligible for awards and the correlation between people caring about a movies and the movie being good or bad is really low, than mathematics say we will get much more from the group of 280 than from the smaller group of 50 nominated (not only because there is more of them, but it is not a perfectly random sample of the thousand of movie made in a year, they made that small list of movie getting a theatrical release because of their awards prospect quality/festival success and so on).

 

When people watch Manchester they love it (my audience in my theater did), it was a great movie, they just don't watch it.

 

Maybe individual member of the academy are pretentious but has a group it average out to an extremely unpretentious entity (that what happen when you have 7,000 voters of different age and background) any time a non sequel blockbuster is any good, chance are huge they will nominate it and they almost never nominate any foreign or art movies, they are far from pretentious.

 

Cannot name many blockbuster that missed nominations in the last 10 year's and if a Coppola would have made a Godfather movie that ended up being the biggest movie of the year at the box office like it did in the 70s, it would win again in 2018, it is a group that nominated Toy Story 3, actors from Rocky 7, gave an Oscar to Suicide Squad, nominated Blind Side, Hidden Figure, King Speech, Imitation Game, etc....

 

 

Edited November 25, 2017 by Barnack