Weekend Thread | Weekend Estimates - Coco 26.11M, JL 16.58M, Wonder 12.5M, T:R 9.65M, MOTOE 6.7M, LB 4.54M, 3BOEM 4.53M, TDA 1.22M

[Orestes]

Just now, CoolioD1 said:

i'm pretty excited for a weekend topic where the exact same posters aren't rehashing the exact same points at each other. maybe some day.

[That One Girl]

Just now, ZeeSoh said:

You are absolutely free and entitled to not like a movie or genre. No doubt there. 

But you said you cant wait for the fad to die and go away. That to me means you dont want the movies to be made. Now you can like or dislike as you want but not wanting movies to be made that millions enjoy simply because you don't veers into selfish territory. 

 

you're right.  I don't want the movies to be made.  that being said I don't blame the studios for making them because clearly people love them a lot.

 

I can see why they're doing it but that doesn't mean I have to like them doing it.

[ThomasNicole]

22 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Nah, Avatar is not more beloved or better than Harry Potter, LOTR, Indiana Jones, Bond or Star Wars.

 

I don't care how good the legs are.

 

How many teens or kids are obsessed with Avatar? How often does Avatar make people's top 10 favorite all time movies?

I think it's hard compare Avatar to these franchises since Avatar is not a franchise yet and have just 1 movie

 

Probably when new movies come, the fanbase and people obsessed with Avatar will grow a lot, because it will exist a whole mythology and new material to explore

 

Cameron just need to make good movies to this franchise explode and become more solid. Based on his career, he probably will achieve that!

Edited December 2, 2017 by ThomasNicole

[Blaze Heatnix]

Did anything happen to the forums?

 

The page is so weird now, there's a huge black space ( right side ). 

[ZeeSoh]

1.) Coco (DIS), 3,987 theaters / Fri: $6.3M (-67%)/ 3-day cume: $27.8M (-45%)/Total:$110.4M / Wk 2

 

2.) Justice League (WB), 3,820 theaters (-231)/$4.5M Fri/  3-day cume: $15.8M  (-61%)/Total: $196.5M/ Wk 3

 

3.) Wonder (WB), 3,449 theaters (+277) /$3.6M Fri/3-day cume: $13.2M (-42%)/ /Total: $88.7M/Wk 3

 

4). Thor: Ragnarok (DIS), 3,148 theaters (-133) / $2.3M Fri/ 3-day cume: $9.36M (-44%) / Total cume: $291M / Wk 5

 

5) Daddy’s Home 2 (PAR), 3,403 theaters (-115) /$2.1M Fri/ 3-day cume: $7.45M (-44%)/ Total: $82.8M/Wk 4

 

6) Murder on the Orient Express (FOX), 3,201 theaters (+49)/  $2M Fri/ 3-day cume: $7M (-47%)/Total: $85M/ Wk 4

 

7) Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, MO (FSL), 1,430 theaters (+816) / $1.4M Fri/ 3-day cume: $4.5M (+2%) /Total: $13.6M /Wk 4

 

9). Lady Bird (A24), 1,194 theaters (+403) /$1.2M Fri/3-day cume: $4M (0%)/ Total cume: $16.6M / Wk 5

 

10.) The Star (SONY), 2,822 theaters (-15) /$874K Fri / 3-day cume: $3.8M (-45%)/Total:$27.1M/Wk 3

 

11). A Bad Moms Christmas (STX), 2,251 theaters (-55) /$1.1M Fri/3-day cume: $3.4M (-30%) /Total cume: $64.8M / Wk 5

 

12.) Roman J. Israel, Esq. (SONY),1,669 theaters (0)/$602K Fri/ 3-day cume: $2M (-55%)/Total: $9.6M/Wk 3

 

13.) The Disaster Artist  (A24), 19 theaters / $478K Fri/3-day cume: $1.32M /PTA: $69k /Wk 1

 

14.) The Man Who Invented Christmas (BST), 674 theaters (+48) /Fri $263K (-48%)/3-day cume: $913K  (-33%)/Total: $3.2M/ Wk 2

 

Notables:

 

Titanic 20th Anniversary  (PAR), 87 theaters / $172K Fri/3-day cume: $400k /Total: $659M/Wk 1

 

Call Me By Your Name  (SPC), 4 theaters (0)/ $77K Fri/3-day cume: $267k (-35%) /PTA: $66,6k /Total: $894K/Wk 2

 

The Shape of Water  (FSL), 2 theaters / $55K Fri/3-day cume: $170k /PTA: $85k /Wk 1

 

Wonder Wheel (AMZ), 5 theaters/ $37K Fri/3-day cume: $109k /PTA: $21,8k /Wk 1

 

Darkest Hour (FOC), 4 theaters (0)/ $24K Fri /3-day cume: $86K (-51%) /PTA: $20k/ Total: $388k/ Wk 2

[Noctis]

JL's been out for two weeks and has yet to pass the first Twilight...

 

[Barnack]

18 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

It very well may be.  I'm not big on it at all (I think it's Cameron's weakest), but it opened well and had astronomical legs from people that clearly loved it and were spreading the good WOM for the film.  It's hard to gauge reception from everyone in America, but I have to imagine that it'd be up there amongst films the GA loved the most.

That can give an idea:

 

http://www.theharrispoll.com/health-and-life/Gone_but_Not_Forgotten__Gone_with_the_Wind_is_Still_America_s_Favorite_Movie.html

 

The most loved recent movies seem to be Titanic and Lords of the Rings for American adults.

 

I would also imagine Avatar is up there among the most loved movies of the 2000s, but part of the legs were about the must see in theater 3D experience curiosity, making less obvious that it was because of the movie being loved than a Titanic, Star Wars or ET type of crazy legs phenomenon.

[grey ghost]

1 hour ago, La Binoche said:

Disney has truly sucked the fun out of everything we loved as kids. 

 

Superhero movies. 

 

Their own classics. 

And now even Star Wars. 

 

Never thought I could feel so indifferent towards a new SW movie. But none of it feels special anymore. 

Yeah bring back the prequels, Fanastic Four, Elektra, and flops like John Carter! 

[grey ghost]

15 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

i'm pretty excited for a weekend topic where the exact same posters aren't rehashing the exact same points at each other. maybe some day.

The thread was basically dead anyway. 

[That One Girl]

btw my favorite likes I get are from that one user who reacts to all my posts that say something critical of Marvel with "wtf."  always brightens up my day.

 

[Thrylos 7]

Thor is gaining on JL fast 

[Barnack]

8 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

2.) Justice League (WB), 3,820 theaters (-231)/$4.5M Fri/  3-day cume: $15.8M  (-61%)/Total: $196.5M/ Wk 3

 

If that hold:

FB: $18,118,111 weekend, 183,080,514 at that time, for a 234m run

MJ2: $$18,857,547 weekend, 227,369,547 total, for a 281.6m run

 

If JL continue to follow Fantastic beast (do has well relative legs than FB:)

15.8/18.1*(234-183)+196.5 = 241m

 

If JL continue to follow MJ2:

15.8/18.85*(281.6-227.4)+196.5 = 242m

 

Relative trend:

Those 2 had a good -40 drop for the next weekend, but JL -61% is very similar to their 3 weekend drop and like them there is not really much competition on wide new release for a while, it could follow theirs trajectories or not too far from the 240m dbo from now on I guess.

 

They did: 30m and 35m after December 15 and were better counter programming to the Star Wars competition I imagine.

 

[Boxofficerules]

Kings man has crossed $100 million! Also what’s up with all the ads on the forums, horrible!

[YM!]

I kind of agree with TOG and I love CBMs in genral. Having 10-11 a year, and all these studios trying out their own cinematic universes is overkill. I’d like to see more originals break out.

[SteveJaros]

1 hour ago, ThomasNicole said:

Coco will outgross JL with a $ 100 - 125M smaller budget

Deal with it

CoCo's budget is much closer to JL's than that.

 

Whether it out-grosses it, we'll see. I'm waiting for CoCo to bust $100m DOM. Should happen any day now, eh?

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, La Binoche said:

Disney has truly sucked the fun out of everything we loved as kids. 

 

Superhero movies. 

 

Did we loved superheroes movies as kids ? Really never cared for them, Kids in the 80s/90s didn't really had much going on, except for a couple of Burton movies... Who would trade the current output for that one ? The Crow was nice.... but that is not enough vs this era.

 

85	91	Mystery Men	Uni.	$29,762,011	2,142	$10,017,865	2,136	8/6/99
86	106	Black Mask	Art.	$12,504,289	988	$4,449,692	979	5/14/99
87	119	Orgazmo	Oct.	$602,302	94	$210,073	94	10/23/98
88	71	Blade	NL	$70,087,718	2,389	$17,073,856	2,322	8/21/98
89	65	The Mask of Zorro	Sony	$94,095,523	2,515	$22,525,855	2,515	7/17/98
90	118	Steel	WB	$1,710,972	1,260	$870,068	1,260	8/15/97
91	77	Spawn	NL	$54,870,175	2,604	$19,738,749	2,536	8/1/97
92	61	Batman and Robin	WB	$107,325,195	2,942	$42,872,605	2,934	6/20/97
93	109	Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie	Fox	$8,363,899	2,113	$3,301,135	2,113	3/28/97
94	98	The Crow: City of Angels	Mira.	$17,917,287	2,423	$9,785,111	2,423	8/30/96
95	99	The Phantom	Par.	$17,323,326	2,163	$5,072,346	2,159	6/7/96
96	116	Barb Wire	Gram.	$3,793,614	1,312	$1,844,426	1,312	5/3/96
97	86	Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers	Fox	$38,187,431	2,409	$13,104,788	2,409	6/30/95
98	87	Judge Dredd	BV	$34,693,481	2,204	$12,291,536	2,204	6/30/95
99	38	Batman Forever	WB	$184,031,112	2,893	$52,784,433	2,842	6/16/95
100	115	Tank Girl	MGM	$4,064,495	1,363	$2,018,183	1,341	3/31/95

1	112	Blankman	Col.	$7,941,977	1,615	$3,715,480	1,615	8/19/94
2	90	The Shadow	Uni.	$32,063,435	1,769	$11,713,845	1,677	7/1/94
3	80	The Crow	Mira.	$50,693,129	2,119	$11,774,332	1,573	5/13/94
4	114	Batman: Mask of the Phantasm	WB	$5,617,391	1,506	$1,189,975	1,506	12/25/93
5	111	The Meteor Man	MGM	$8,016,708	1,060	$2,643,091	1,060	8/6/93
6	84	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III	NL	$42,273,609	2,087	$12,419,597	2,087	3/19/93
7	100	Buffy the Vampire Slayer	Fox	$16,624,456	1,981	$4,515,541	1,959	7/31/92
8	44	Batman Returns	WB	$162,831,698	2,644	$45,687,711	2,644	6/19/92
9	82	The Rocketeer	BV	$46,704,056	1,903	$9,600,754	1,616	6/21/91
10	69	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II	NL	$78,656,813	2,868	$20,030,473	2,868	3/22/91
11	88	Darkman	Uni.	$33,878,502	1,833	$8,054,860	1,786	8/24/90
12	50	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles	NL	$135,265,915	2,377	$25,398,367	2,006	3/30/90

Edited December 2, 2017 by Barnack

[filmlover]

That's a better number for The Shape of Water, if not an amazing one. It's expected to open in a handful of other states next week, not just LA, so those numbers will be more telling.

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Kings man has crossed $100 million! Also what’s up with all the ads on the forums, horrible!

How the hell has it retained any theaters with that avg though?  Is Fox paying them to play it?  That's an avg of $36 per theater a day - on the w/e in 163 theaters. Even if it's only one showing per day that's an avg of  4 non discounted tickets...

 

5

Kingsman: The Golden Circle

$18,000

-84%

163

-10

$110

$100,003,414

11

Fox

[ThomasNicole]

8 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:

CoCo's budget is much closer to JL's than that.

 

Whether it out-grosses it, we'll see. I'm waiting for CoCo to bust $100m DOM. Should happen any day now, eh?

"Studio insiders vouch that Coco is within the average Pixar production cost range of $175M-$200M."

http://deadline.com/2017/11/coco-justice-league-wonder-thanksgiving-box-office-1202213755/

 

Disney-Pixar does not provide estimates of the production costs but industry sources say that the price tag is usually in the $175 million to $200 million range.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/box-office-coco-justice-league-thanksgiving-1202621786/

 

So, no, Coco's budget is not even close to JL's budget

[Lordmandeep]

6 minutes ago, YourMother said:

I kind of agree with TOG and I love CBMs in genral. Having 10-11 a year, and all these studios trying out their own cinematic universes is overkill. I’d like to see more originals break out.

Most original films are just as shit or worse then these franchise films.

 

It Is more the exception...

 

 

So frankly I don't praise sub par films because they are original.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Lordmandeep