75Live Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, That One Guy said: This is unreal. These guys have to have a time machine or some shit. There's no way they can predict everything. well they have been on since 1989 so they have the luxury of just experience or yeah most likely a time machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, JonathanLB said: Great news for moviegoers everywhere, one of the best things that could happen. A studio that makes almost all quality movies acquires a studio that has a proud history of great hits as well, but uniting their resources will be a powerful bargaining tool against theaters that are also consolidating (with Regal in talks to be sold to a European-based cinema company). The best thing for moviegoers is Disney's streaming service that's coming, which will hopefully grant access to thousands of movies that Netflix simply doesn't have because they have about 17 movies before 1980. It's pathetic. Their selection has gotten so bad because they spend all of their money making original content, none of it negotiating deals, and try to appeal to the absolute cheapest, poorest people by offering a service for $10/month that really should be $30/month and loaded with more content. I don't see any negatives to this deal at all for moviegoers. Fox won't magically neuter Deadpool 2, it'll still be Deadpool 2, Disney won't want to mess with a good thing. To say you want more "adult entertainment" where you define "adult" as shitty indie movies that nobody likes is disingenuous at best. Most people would far rather see a Pixar movie than see this year's crappy indie love fest. That's why the box office results are so terrible for these movies. They have awful trailers that appeal to just about nobody, so even with an RT score of 90-100% nobody watches them. They're NOT appealing movies. If you want to see them, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll always be able to find some "hidden indie gem" about a gender neutral non-binary single mother / father / unidentified raising a special needs child in the inner city while struggling with heroin abuse and the injustice of capitalist society, but for the rest of us who like movies that provide actual entertainment value Disney is king. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, JonathanLB said: To say you want more "adult entertainment" where you define "adult" as shitty indie movies that nobody likes is disingenuous at best. Most people would far rather see a Pixar movie than see this year's crappy indie love fest. That's why the box office results are so terrible for these movies. They have awful trailers that appeal to just about nobody, so even with an RT score of 90-100% nobody watches them. They're NOT appealing movies. If you want to see them, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll always be able to find some "hidden indie gem" about a gender neutral non-binary single mother / father / unidentified raising a special needs child in the inner city while struggling with heroin abuse and the injustice of capitalist society, but for the rest of us who like movies that provide actual entertainment value Disney is king. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeartJames Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, ReyReyBattery said: Obligatory Simpsons_did_it.jpeg Not even joking but the Simpson sometimes scares the hell outta me with this kinda shit. I understand its been on for years but this is just getting creepy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Prime Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, JonathanLB said: Great news for moviegoers everywhere, one of the best things that could happen. A studio that makes almost all quality movies acquires a studio that has a proud history of great hits as well, but uniting their resources will be a powerful bargaining tool against theaters that are also consolidating (with Regal in talks to be sold to a European-based cinema company). The best thing for moviegoers is Disney's streaming service that's coming, which will hopefully grant access to thousands of movies that Netflix simply doesn't have because they have about 17 movies before 1980. It's pathetic. Their selection has gotten so bad because they spend all of their money making original content, none of it negotiating deals, and try to appeal to the absolute cheapest, poorest people by offering a service for $10/month that really should be $30/month and loaded with more content. I don't see any negatives to this deal at all for moviegoers. Fox won't magically neuter Deadpool 2, it'll still be Deadpool 2, Disney won't want to mess with a good thing. To say you want more "adult entertainment" where you define "adult" as shitty indie movies that nobody likes is disingenuous at best. Most people would far rather see a Pixar movie than see this year's crappy indie love fest. That's why the box office results are so terrible for these movies. They have awful trailers that appeal to just about nobody, so even with an RT score of 90-100% nobody watches them. They're NOT appealing movies. If you want to see them, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll always be able to find some "hidden indie gem" about a gender neutral non-binary single mother / father / unidentified raising a special needs child in the inner city while struggling with heroin abuse and the injustice of capitalist society, but for the rest of us who like movies that provide actual entertainment value Disney is king. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jonwo said: TimeWarner already spun off Time Inc which left the more profitable media arm which was HBO, Turner and Warner Bros. HBO alone is worth a lot to AT&T as well as the Turner cable networks. I could see CBS merging with Viacom again, the split ironically made CBS more profitable than Viacom. If CNN is sold off, I could see CBS making a play, they've been interested for years, I am actually surprised Warner Bros. went the route that they did. They have such a huge film library with their own library, the New Line Cinema library, MGM's pre-1985 library, the RKO library, and the Hanna-Barbera library. They were in position to go head to head with Netflix and Amazon. AT&T will have no trouble competing with Netflix or Amazon with that huge film library. Ted Turner was ahead of the curve in acquiring content. Viacom and CBS merging and purchasing CNN makes a lot of sense. If that move happens, Viacom gets stronger and the AT&T/Time Warner merger would probably be approved. Edited December 7, 2017 by Walt Disney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, JonathanLB said: Great news for moviegoers everywhere, one of the best things that could happen. A studio that makes almost all quality movies acquires a studio that has a proud history of great hits as well, but uniting their resources will be a powerful bargaining tool against theaters that are also consolidating (with Regal in talks to be sold to a European-based cinema company). The best thing for moviegoers is Disney's streaming service that's coming, which will hopefully grant access to thousands of movies that Netflix simply doesn't have because they have about 17 movies before 1980. It's pathetic. Their selection has gotten so bad because they spend all of their money making original content, none of it negotiating deals, and try to appeal to the absolute cheapest, poorest people by offering a service for $10/month that really should be $30/month and loaded with more content. I don't see any negatives to this deal at all for moviegoers. Fox won't magically neuter Deadpool 2, it'll still be Deadpool 2, Disney won't want to mess with a good thing. To say you want more "adult entertainment" where you define "adult" as shitty indie movies that nobody likes is disingenuous at best. Most people would far rather see a Pixar movie than see this year's crappy indie love fest. That's why the box office results are so terrible for these movies. They have awful trailers that appeal to just about nobody, so even with an RT score of 90-100% nobody watches them. They're NOT appealing movies. If you want to see them, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll always be able to find some "hidden indie gem" about a gender neutral non-binary single mother / father / unidentified raising a special needs child in the inner city while struggling with heroin abuse and the injustice of capitalist society, but for the rest of us who like movies that provide actual entertainment value Disney is king. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I love how every time Jonathan posts something like that, without fail, 5 minutes later there are like four people who respond to it calling him out for it. By now, he should have learned... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanLB Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, WrathOfHan said: Trash deal from Trashmerican corporations. Wouldn't expect anything less from a capitalistic society tbqh. Yup, because clearly a socialist or communist society would lead to much better results. We could all have the same amount of money, studios wouldn't have enough money to finance big blockbusters because money would be provided by the state for "important" things only. They'd take care of us. We may have some low budget government-funded movies about how great socialism is, but we wouldn't have needless wastes of money like blockbusters. Socialism and communism have both worked so well, they haven't at all been the cause of tens of millions of deaths, or the destruction of individual liberty, property, and freedom. Death to capitalism! What a horrible system, when just about anyone can succeed and build a life of wealth and distinction. Who would want such a terrible system? We don't need the riff raff rising up and becoming wealthy. It would be so much better if we could just have a system where the government power players are the societal elite, and everyone else is just "equal" (equally poor, the dumb schmucks!). It really is a bummer watching capitalism just ruin the world through a complete lack of technological innovation in this country and nobody having any desire to make great advances anymore. Oh well, maybe one day we'll see the light of communism so we can be more like old Soviet Russia or Cuba or North Korea. Do they not teach history anymore or do people just not really pay attention? I know they don't teach basic economics because I argue with enough liberals on the Internet to understand even Econ 101 is beyond their grasp. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, JonathanLB said: Great news for moviegoers everywhere, one of the best things that could happen. A studio that makes almost all quality movies acquires a studio that has a proud history of great hits as well, but uniting their resources will be a powerful bargaining tool against theaters that are also consolidating (with Regal in talks to be sold to a European-based cinema company). The best thing for moviegoers is Disney's streaming service that's coming, which will hopefully grant access to thousands of movies that Netflix simply doesn't have because they have about 17 movies before 1980. It's pathetic. Their selection has gotten so bad because they spend all of their money making original content, none of it negotiating deals, and try to appeal to the absolute cheapest, poorest people by offering a service for $10/month that really should be $30/month and loaded with more content. I don't see any negatives to this deal at all for moviegoers. Fox won't magically neuter Deadpool 2, it'll still be Deadpool 2, Disney won't want to mess with a good thing. To say you want more "adult entertainment" where you define "adult" as shitty indie movies that nobody likes is disingenuous at best. Most people would far rather see a Pixar movie than see this year's crappy indie love fest. That's why the box office results are so terrible for these movies. They have awful trailers that appeal to just about nobody, so even with an RT score of 90-100% nobody watches them. They're NOT appealing movies. If you want to see them, that's awesome, I'm sure you'll always be able to find some "hidden indie gem" about a gender neutral non-binary single mother / father / unidentified raising a special needs child in the inner city while struggling with heroin abuse and the injustice of capitalist society, but for the rest of us who like movies that provide actual entertainment value Disney is king. No one matches your skill at drowning good points in ugly, contemptuous vitriol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Prime Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, JonathanLB said: Yup, because clearly a socialist or communist society would lead to much better results. We could all have the same amount of money, studios wouldn't have enough money to finance big blockbusters because money would be provided by the state for "important" things only. They'd take care of us. We may have some low budget government-funded movies about how great socialism is, but we wouldn't have needless wastes of money like blockbusters. Socialism and communism have both worked so well, they haven't at all been the cause of tens of millions of deaths, or the destruction of individual liberty, property, and freedom. Death to capitalism! What a horrible system, when just about anyone can succeed and build a life of wealth and distinction. Who would want such a terrible system? We don't need the riff raff rising up and becoming wealthy. It would be so much better if we could just have a system where the government power players are the societal elite, and everyone else is just "equal" (equally poor, the dumb schmucks!). It really is a bummer watching capitalism just ruin the world through a complete lack of technological innovation in this country and nobody having any desire to make great advances anymore. Oh well, maybe one day we'll see the light of communism so we can be more like old Soviet Russia or Cuba or North Korea. Do they not teach history anymore or do people just not really pay attention? I know they don't teach basic economics because I argue with enough liberals on the Internet to understand even Econ 101 is beyond their grasp. ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 51 minutes ago, AJG said: And then Apple will buy Disney. And then Comcast will buy Netflix. And then Verizon will buy Viacom. Supposedly part of this acquisition is to keep Apple from buying Disney - it makes them too big to be easily swallowed whole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Actually,,,,,,,, consolidation of wealth is GOOD you dummies 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 holy fuck someone actually took the bait 2 minutes ago, JonathanLB said: Yup, because clearly a socialist or communist society would lead to much better results. We could all have the same amount of money, studios wouldn't have enough money to finance big blockbusters because money would be provided by the state for "important" things only. They'd take care of us. We may have some low budget government-funded movies about how great socialism is, but we wouldn't have needless wastes of money like blockbusters. Socialism and communism have both worked so well, they haven't at all been the cause of tens of millions of deaths, or the destruction of individual liberty, property, and freedom. Death to capitalism! What a horrible system, when just about anyone can succeed and build a life of wealth and distinction. Who would want such a terrible system? We don't need the riff raff rising up and becoming wealthy. It would be so much better if we could just have a system where the government power players are the societal elite, and everyone else is just "equal" (equally poor, the dumb schmucks!). It really is a bummer watching capitalism just ruin the world through a complete lack of technological innovation in this country and nobody having any desire to make great advances anymore. Oh well, maybe one day we'll see the light of communism so we can be more like old Soviet Russia or Cuba or North Korea. Do they not teach history anymore or do people just not really pay attention? I know they don't teach basic economics because I argue with enough liberals on the Internet to understand even Econ 101 is beyond their grasp. Chill, comrade. One day you will understand the teachings of Marx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, TalismanRing said: Supposedly part of this acquisition is to keep Apple from buying Disney - it makes them too big to be easily swallowed whole Apple buying Disney. Now that’s a monopoly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanLB Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, That One Guy said: I love how every time Jonathan posts something like that, without fail, 5 minutes later there are like four people who respond to it calling him out for it. By now, he should have learned... Learned what? Learned that there are a lot of people who post the exact same meme over and over again? It just makes me laugh. Who would have known a box office forum isn't a diverse group of individual critical thinkers, but a hive mind of people who can't tolerate a difference of opinion so they stick their heads in the sand and go "La la la la not listening." It takes actual brain cells to respond to a different point of view, it takes no effort at all to dismiss said point of view with cute memes. Equally no brainpower to dismiss the person AND their views, because you don't agree. All I can tell is when I don't get real responses, but just teh jokez I must have hit a nerve. It tells me exactly what I want to know -- I'm right. You can't even make an argument to the contrary, so instead it's just useless nonsense. I'll be impressed and probably die of a heart attack if I actually saw a useful rebuttal of anything, but there isn't one. I didn't state anything that's not true, which is that Disney makes great movies that audiences enjoy, and there's no cause for a "sky is falling" approach to a deal that will be good for moviegoers by uniting a lot of content in a future streaming service. What could be bad as a moviegoer? Having so much access to great films in one place can only be seen as a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3racer123 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I sense a thread lock or ban hammer coming soon if this thread carries on like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JonathanLB said: Yup, because clearly a socialist or communist society would lead to much better results. We could all have the same amount of money, studios wouldn't have enough money to finance big blockbusters because money would be provided by the state for "important" things only. They'd take care of us. We may have some low budget government-funded movies about how great socialism is, but we wouldn't have needless wastes of money like blockbusters. Socialism and communism have both worked so well, they haven't at all been the cause of tens of millions of deaths, or the destruction of individual liberty, property, and freedom. Death to capitalism! What a horrible system, when just about anyone can succeed and build a life of wealth and distinction. Who would want such a terrible system? We don't need the riff raff rising up and becoming wealthy. It would be so much better if we could just have a system where the government power players are the societal elite, and everyone else is just "equal" (equally poor, the dumb schmucks!). It really is a bummer watching capitalism just ruin the world through a complete lack of technological innovation in this country and nobody having any desire to make great advances anymore. Oh well, maybe one day we'll see the light of communism so we can be more like old Soviet Russia or Cuba or North Korea. Do they not teach history anymore or do people just not really pay attention? I know they don't teach basic economics because I argue with enough liberals on the Internet to understand even Econ 101 is beyond their grasp. Just now, JonathanLB said: Learned what? Learned that there are a lot of people who post the exact same meme over and over again? It just makes me laugh. Who would have known a box office forum isn't a diverse group of individual critical thinkers, but a hive mind of people who can't tolerate a difference of opinion so they stick their heads in the sand and go "La la la la not listening." It takes actual brain cells to respond to a different point of view, it takes no effort at all to dismiss said point of view with cute memes. Equally no brainpower to dismiss the person AND their views, because you don't agree. All I can tell is when I don't get real responses, but just teh jokez I must have hit a nerve. It tells me exactly what I want to know -- I'm right. You can't even make an argument to the contrary, so instead it's just useless nonsense. I'll be impressed and probably die of a heart attack if I actually saw a useful rebuttal of anything, but there isn't one. I didn't state anything that's not true, which is that Disney makes great movies that audiences enjoy, and there's no cause for a "sky is falling" approach to a deal that will be good for moviegoers by uniting a lot of content in a future streaming service. What could be bad as a moviegoer? Having so much access to great films in one place can only be seen as a good thing. Edited December 7, 2017 by That One Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 i know this forum's main focus is on the profits of corporations but i'm frequently surprised by how many posters luv to toe the company line. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Walt Disney said: Viacom and CBS merging and purchasing CNN makes a lot of sense. If that move happens, Viacom gets stronger and the AT&T/Time Warner merger would probably be approved. CBS and CNN is a good fit but it's the crown jewel of the Turner networks which is why they're reluctant to sell it. Warner Bros and Turner have been dipping their toe into streaming services like Boomerang and the upcoming DC streaming service and HBO Now has been very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...