BLACK PANTHER WEEKEND THREAD | Current Estimates - 202.4M 3-day / 242.6M 4-day | Record 40.167 Monday; more than TFA!

[Krissykins]

4 minutes ago, Mekanos said:

Don't sleep on Captain Marvel. There is still a real hunger for the first female led MCU movie. I've been saying Strange numbers are the floor and I'm standing by that.

That’s still $180m less than Wonder Woman domestically. Thats within the range I said above. 

[Mekanos]

Just now, Krissykins said:

That’s still $180m less than Wonder Woman domestically. Thats within the range I said above. 

That's the floor though. Given Marvel's current winning streak, there's a strong chance of it breaking 300 million DOM and 750M WW. If it's genuinely great, who knows?

 

My point moreso is now is not the time to downplay Marvel's ability to elevate obscure characters to superstardom.

[junkshop36]

This is doing 600m. I’m thinking, at worse, 605-610m.  

[Cooper Legion]

At this point I’m willing to believe that “Marvel: Ham Sandwhich” would break 250 DOM and 700WW.

[a2k]

26 minutes ago, Sliver Legion said:

At this point I’m willing to believe that “Marvel: Ham Sandwhich” would break 250 DOM and 700WW.

Something similar was claimed when Pixar had released Up. Incidentally it ended up doing 250+/700+. A reviewer had written that even if they make a movie called 'Dirt' people would trust them.

[MovieMan89]

12 minutes ago, a2knet said:

Something similar was claimed when Pixar had released Up. Incidentally it ended up doing 250+/700+. A reviewer had written that even if they make a movie called 'Dirt' people would trust them.

And then they made a movie called Cars 2...

[a2k]

5 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

And then they made a movie called Cars 2...

They did make TS3, imo Pixar's best or close, immediately after UP. But some B-tier movies peppered in between after Up with higher than expected frequency : Up, TS3, C2, Brave, MU, IO, TGD, Dory, Cars3, COCO

 

[KP1025]

59 minutes ago, junkshop36 said:

This is doing 600m. I’m thinking, at worse, 605-610m.  

Those would actually be fantastic numbers and a similar multiplier to Avengers, another MCU phenomenon. Anything over 3x would be good news and not the floor in my opinion.

[BadAtGender]

14 minutes ago, a2knet said:

They did make TS3, imo Pixar's best or close, immediately after UP. But some B-tier movies peppered in between after Up with higher than expected frequency : Up, TS3, C2, Brave, MU, IO, TGD, Dory, Cars3, COCO

 

 

Brave is better than Dory. And TS3.

[MovieMan89]

12 minutes ago, a2knet said:

They did make TS3, imo Pixar's best or close, immediately after UP. But some B-tier movies peppered in between after Up with higher than expected frequency : Up, TS3, C2, Brave, MU, IO, TGD, Dory, Cars3, COCO

 

Yeah, I know TS3 was before C2, just pointing out that they weren't invincible and could put out whatever they wanted without failing like it seemed by the time TS3 came out. They really shot themselves in the foot by making a movie there was specific outcry against in the fanbase, and then not even delivering something that could measure up to the already weak link original. In some ways you could argue they've never really recovered since then. They can't just sell a film on their brand name ever since C2 happened, and now even something that is top tier Pixar like Coco can end up one of their least attended films ever. 

[Krissykins]

1 hour ago, Mekanos said:

That's the floor though. Given Marvel's current winning streak, there's a strong chance of it breaking 300 million DOM and 750M WW. If it's genuinely great, who knows?

 

My point moreso is now is not the time to downplay Marvel's ability to elevate obscure characters to superstardom.

I didn’t though 

[dxmatrixdt]

still no theater counts for Ferdinand.  no numbers for JL. 

[KP1025]

7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

and now even something that is top tier Pixar like Coco can end up one of their least attended films ever. 

 

I'm still surprised at Coco's underperformance domestically. With it being the most attended film ever in Mexico, I thought it could have resonated similarly with the massive Latino population in the country. But it never became a cultural phenomenon among Latinos in the US and kind of just fizzled out after its opening.

Edited February 20, 2018 by KP1025

[Avatree]

46 minutes ago, a2knet said:

Something similar was claimed when Pixar had released Up. Incidentally it ended up doing 250+/700+. A reviewer had written that even if they make a movie called 'Dirt' people would trust them.

Yes, but due to their quality stagnating in recent times their films have not been performing as well. Their lowest 3 grossing films (adjusted) are three of their most recent 4 films and came out within 2 years.

[grey ghost]

Coco underperformed? 

[BardCrank]

Just now, grey ghost said:

Coco underperformed? 

Compared to expectations , yes 

[Alexiswills12]

7 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

I'm still surprised at Coco's underperformance domestically. With it being the most attended film ever in Mexico, I thought it could have resonated similarly with the massive Latino population in the country. But it never became a cultural phenomenon among Latinos in the US and kind of just fizzled out after its opening.

Because the massive Latino population is a mix of different cultures too. It probably did do huge numbers with Mexicans.

[Darth Lehnsherr]

21 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, I know TS3 was before C2, just pointing out that they weren't invincible and could put out whatever they wanted without failing like it seemed by the time TS3 came out. They really shot themselves in the foot by making a movie there was specific outcry against in the fanbase, and then not even delivering something that could measure up to the already weak link original. In some ways you could argue they've never really recovered since then. They can't just sell a film on their brand name ever since C2 happened, and now even something that is top tier Pixar like Coco can end up one of their least attended films ever. 

Makes Inside Out's performance all the more special

[Avatree]

1	Finding Nemo	BV	$517,178,000	3,425	$106,950,400	3,374	5/30/03
2	Finding Dory	BV	$515,531,300	4,305	$142,022,100	4,305	6/17/16
3	Toy Story 3	BV	$489,656,000	4,028	$128,505,100	4,028	6/18/10
4	Toy Story 2	BV	$439,139,300	3,257	$542,400	1	11/19/99
5	Monsters, Inc.	BV	$413,908,800	3,649	$101,494,300	3,237	11/2/01
6	Toy Story	BV	$402,711,200	2,574	$61,496,800	2,457	11/22/95
7	Inside Out	BV	$396,452,900	4,158	$100,635,400	3,946	6/19/15
8	The Incredibles	BV	$385,835,000	3,933	$104,169,500	3,933	11/5/04
9	Up	BV	$360,533,300	3,886	$83,812,200	3,766	5/29/09
10	Cars	BV	$342,088,800	3,988	$84,259,100	3,985	6/9/06
11	A Bug's Life	BV	$313,363,900	2,773	$569,800	1	11/20/98
12	Monsters University	BV	$304,779,900	4,004	$90,298,600	4,004	6/21/13
13	WALL-E	BV	$286,150,300	3,992	$80,660,700	3,992	6/27/08
14	Ratatouille	BV	$275,460,900	3,940	$62,748,800	3,940	6/29/07
15	Brave	BV	$275,009,400	4,164	$74,981,600	4,164	6/22/12
16	Cars 2	BV	$219,815,300	4,115	$75,325,600	4,115	6/24/11
17	Coco	BV	$207,442,700	3,987	$50,802,600	3,987	11/22/17
18	Cars 3	BV	$156,912,800	4,256	$55,068,400	4,256	6/16/17
19	The Good Dinosaur	BV	$130,059,800	3,749	$41,315,500	3,749	11/25/15

[Darth Lehnsherr]

8 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Coco underperformed? 

If you wanna compare to other Pixar Originals In North America then yes. But in terms of expectations before the film came out definitely not. Alot of people were expecting <$200M for the domestic box office.